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Hey O, dues paid. Good to be back by the way

I feel like something should be happening...I'll just hang out in receiving...

Trump tweeting about S. Africa warms my old, hardened heart

Good god. Spending a few minutes reading the responses to our Youtube deletion tweet. These are the people we're fighting for?

I'd say they've forfeited their right to call themselves white, so that answers that.

Pretty disappointing hearing Alt Hype essentially attack white nationalism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKOxOGjqRQU

Maybe that is a bit harsh to say 'attack', however he definitely takes his shots and comes off as completely blackpilled.

It was even. It just doubled to 2-1 likes to dislikes

He essentially admits something strange happened with the likes to dislikes and says it makes him look bad as someone obviously bought some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx5lABaziSM

Likes

He is being accused of that and he says it appears that has happened, but that it wasn't him and doesn't help him

I'm really confused about his thesis. It seems to be that since whites didn't overwhelmingly vote for conservatives or republicans that the idea of an ethnostate is flawed...or something. Really confused on what he is getting at.

He is making his position very clear in this livestream.

His content has been very good, for sure, however this is almost...almost directly at odds with us. It definitely doesn't help our movement and serves as a blackpill. But I digress, I don't want to color your view of the video

His direct quote when the fact that whites becoming a minority in this county is NOT a good thing. He says 'The solution is not white nationalism'. Well then...

Goodnight Ian!

He just denounced us and said our movement is full of bad people. I loved his videos. That really hurts

I wasn't willing to make such a bold assertion until I just listened to him for an hour on this livestream

White Nationalism specifically. We're cucks. 'White nationalists are cucks'

I have no idea. Completely bizarre honestly. A complete heel turn. I wouldn't have a problem with him saying 'Look, I have a problem with some of these ideas and their practicality'. However, he punched right and denounced all of us

He is now claiming to be a CivNat

He explicitly claimed Civic Nationalism is our best hope for the future.

And referred to himself as a CivNat

I agree with you, Patrick. The video doesn't reveal the depth of his contempt for us. The livestream he just did was where he really let it all out.

The first hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKOxOGjqRQU

He explicitly attacked his audience. Very liberalist of him

He didn't mention us thank god, or i'd really be salty

Patrick I'd really encourage you to go on the Killstream if you get a chance. Very friendly to our ideas

@Distracted Not to mention said we are 'cucking' by standing up for the white race. a white race that doesn't claim us. 'It would be like going to India and saying your Indian and telling them your standing up for their rights and future, they'd look at you like your crazy...like whites do to white nationalists now'

Being white nationalists is 'the easy way out'. He actually said that.

hahaha

I really don't understand. It's like he missed the point of white nationalism entirely, after being one for so long. He essentially used the 'I'm not Christian because of Christians argument'. Which is a strange one to use.

@Reinhard Wolff I agree with you, however the punching right is not necessary. I'd argue I'm one of the most moderate ethnocentric person you can imagine, but I'd encourage you to listen to how he talks about the movement as a whole.

@Reinhard Wolff Good. Some of us it is a bit hard to listen to/cringy at times. I have no problem highlighting problems with the phrasing we use to identify ourselves or others, but it went beyond that. Either way, I'll be interested to hear your perspective and I'm willing to soften my criticisms.

The ethnostate is fun to dream about. But I'm more concerned with my 2 year old not getting Bantu'd by the natives we're importing. Additionally, we just found out we're having another boy today.

@Reinhard Wolff Perfect characterization

@Reinhard Wolff I didn't get the idea you were the type of person he has a problem with

@Distracted thank you!

It's amazing to me that college professors will travel to the heart of the amazon to preserve some tribe that still hasn't found out how to write, but will openly advocate genocide against whites. The cognitive dissonance is mind blowing.

Politics is general, not even race, immigration or anything serious, is something a large number of people are keeping at arms length. I wouldn't take it personally. I'd also say that things will have to get worse before they get better, as people without direct experience with being culturally enriched often have romanticized ideas about 'diversity'...or still haven't figured out diversity just means not white

in general*

@EverlastingTuck It's a really nice shirt

People's knee jerk reaction, EVEN IF THEY AGREE WITH YOU, is to put up token resistance because the idea itself is so...subversive. You're literally talking to someone about them becoming a 'bad person' by societal standards for embracing those ideas. No one converts to our positions overnight and all you can do is plant the seed. What they do with it from there is on them. I've completely given on becoming blackpilled, simply because it isn't an option.

given up on becoming blackpilled* God please help me type

@Distracted I embrace my mistakes

@Distracted thank you. actually forgot about that

@Ben Rainsford - OH I like that summation

Someone doesn't have to accept our ideas whole cloth for us to be successful in the conversation. Additionally, just because someone doesn't immediately shift to 'build the wall' doesn't mean you haven't had success. Plant the seed, give them things to look out for, have them look for anti-white bias. Even if they reject what you say they will immediately start noticing it more. We're very early in our movement. More than changing minds, we're changing misconceptions about our movements and how we've been represented in the last 20 or so years. By we, I mean pro white

There isn't a single person here who joined this group because of one person they talked to, so don't be discouraged.

Wait, did I join a right wing group? I thought this was a support group for fence sitters

My father is a boomer and has also turned facebook into a bloodsport. He's further right than I am

@fgtveassassin I like to reply to that line of thought with 'There isn't a black guy on earth saying 'There are white people and then there are crackres'

To be fair, I can't really blame anyone for hating the Repubs

The last thing I'll say and I have to go to bed: There are forces at work with the intention of 'black pilling' you. Don't let them be effective. Additionally, this is a long term movement without much personal glory or affirmations. Have a good night guys

Ty Patrick. Thanks for heading this whole thing up. You're an inspiration.

G'nite

Interesting conversation

Rootless Cosmopolitans aka cat lady's and metrosexuals

@Koba Turbo jew just made me choke

@ThisIsChris I've always been curious as to if they view as immorality or some type of advancement?

I graduated high school in 2001. ::dinosaur noises::

I taught history 1865 to present to college freshmen. Oh the things I ignored...

Our second one is due in March. We've quit even trying to afford them and are just going to keep making them.

@VinceChaos Most of them scored below an 18 on the ACT, so they were lucky to get any pills at all.

@VinceChaos Basically. You can pretty well just guess and get an 18

@VinceChaos The class was laden with 'athletes'. It was a former Big 10, now SEC school. Sad

@Asatru Artist - MD There is just nothing that can be done to stop it. They bring in money at most universities. If not from people buying merch or whatever, then from boosters.

@ThisIsChris We do well enough and live in a rural area and have some land, so we have it pretty well made in that regard. We put off children until we graduated college, then until we had careers, then until we built a home...we finally just quit putting them off and now are going for the gusto.

@Asatru Artist - MD And it's just a fact that if they aren't paying for the education they aren't going to value you at as much as others. However, there were some athletes that worked very hard, but that didn't mean they belonged in college with their intellect and education.

@ThisIsChris None of it is as important as just being stable in general.

value it*

@Asatru Artist - MD haha for sure. But the majority of D1 athletes still don't belong in university for what it's worth.

College was my first redpill. The Asian and white students giving a wide berth to the athletes shouting in the student union. Impossible to ignore.

'athlete', aka 'urban youths'

@Koba lmao true

I do wish I had found IE before I had children, only so I could be more reckless with my support and activism choices.

@Asatru Artist - MD Oh the things that can be imagined during a good death-stare.

bickin back and bein bool. good grief.

Deleted for safety. Not sure why but I got the delete bug

@Koba I've always thought we should try to do a scholarship. Although we're always pretty strapped for cash

Can you imagine the gnashing of teeth if we offered a scholarship as an organization? Oh man

haha trade school. real wypipo stuff

@Koba No way we could protect our scholar from the evils of forced liberalization

Ole' Mom Jeans

Guy looks like George Bushstein on the left.

Remember when it was a big deal when Kanye West said 'George Bush don't like black people?' Well, maybe yall don't, as it was after Hurricane Katrina. But it was a huge deal. That is said all the time now and we got Kanye shilling for Donnie. What a weird world.

That clown face meme makes me really happy for some reason.

Or emote, whatever the hell it is

Trump could lead Amistad out of slavery and he'd still be a racist so all the photo-ops are pointless.

@VinceChaos Their appearance on the Killstream was forgettable at best.

@VinceChaos Some members of the hoteps went on there. Or leaders of the hoteps, whatever, and they were so incredibly dumb. It'd be hard to find as it was quite a long time ago. I've always been interested in listening to some of their stuff, but these 2 were completely tards

Can someone give me a tldr on Vincent James/

@VinceChaos The guys that were on there were really dumb, so if that guy came off well it probably wasn't him

I'm just unaware of him. I just pulled up a video of his

Stefan Molyneaux style thumbnail. Good start

My wife got to listen to my anti-diversity is our strength speech earlier tonight when there was an NBC commercial with a bunch of ethnics literally saying that diversity is our strength.

The left has an amazing ability to come up with slogans