Message from @JC
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I think we can, at the very least, convince Trump supporters why preserving America's historic demographics is needed and not at all extreme.
But obviously there's room for the exploration of more esoteric ideas.
My personal experiences of trying to explain my ideas recently have not exactly been met with open arms
We need people telling the full, uncensored truth, but we also need people watering it down for normie consumption.
It's amazing to me that college professors will travel to the heart of the amazon to preserve some tribe that still hasn't found out how to write, but will openly advocate genocide against whites. The cognitive dissonance is mind blowing.
Well one of my buddy’s girlfriends was not about the conversation at all, outside of that my friends have been interested to talk but at arms length really
Politics is general, not even race, immigration or anything serious, is something a large number of people are keeping at arms length. I wouldn't take it personally. I'd also say that things will have to get worse before they get better, as people without direct experience with being culturally enriched often have romanticized ideas about 'diversity'...or still haven't figured out diversity just means not white
Wish I had a sliver the conversational skills of Jared Taylor man that guy could sell me the shirt I’m wearing
There isn't a single person I've talked to who's really been open to even listening to what I say
Very black pilling in my experience
Ive talked with Republican consultants working for very important Congressmen and even they agreed with me at lunch when I said "diversity just means less white people", so the "normies" know, they just aren't willing to talk about it publicaly most times.
They all accept it and no one has really ostracized me or anything at least
Every time I’ve brought it up I get “well American whites don’t have culture” and a piece of me shrivels up and dies each time
@fgtveassassin They won't change their minds in one conversation. All you can do is plant the seed. Their inherit desires for in group and aesthetics will eventually pull them in unless someone intervenes and shoves the Kool-Aid down their throats
Might think about your tactics or demeanor @fgtveassassin I know when i get "passionate" (ie loud/excited) about a political topic, my wife tends to shut me out and stop the convo pretty quick. If i stay calm and measured, she'll stay engaged.
People's knee jerk reaction, EVEN IF THEY AGREE WITH YOU, is to put up token resistance because the idea itself is so...subversive. You're literally talking to someone about them becoming a 'bad person' by societal standards for embracing those ideas. No one converts to our positions overnight and all you can do is plant the seed. What they do with it from there is on them. I've completely given on becoming blackpilled, simply because it isn't an option.
given up on becoming blackpilled* God please help me type
It's a marathon, not a race. You have to slowly push someone's personal Overton window enough until they no longer have that knee jerk reaction
Yeah, @Asatru Artist - MD that's part of it I think, my group of buddies from work that I play games with we talk about politics a lot, and they accept most of what I'm saying, pretty much all CivNats but realize the problems with blacks and hispanics, but anything past that they just won't change at all
Its most annoying when we get into and all start gettin uppity, I'm the one they disagree with so the ones not involved just think I'm the crazy one
I sit at home and listen to enough people argue on the internet that I can pretty much take my buddies to task on things, they mostly have normie ideals. Probably don’t even listen to 3+ hr bloodsport podcasts. Pfft
Someone doesn't have to accept our ideas whole cloth for us to be successful in the conversation. Additionally, just because someone doesn't immediately shift to 'build the wall' doesn't mean you haven't had success. Plant the seed, give them things to look out for, have them look for anti-white bias. Even if they reject what you say they will immediately start noticing it more. We're very early in our movement. More than changing minds, we're changing misconceptions about our movements and how we've been represented in the last 20 or so years. By we, I mean pro white
I've basically said to myself recently that of course if a topic comes up I'll slip something in but I've planted enough seeds and hopefully one day, even if its later rather than sooner they say "huh, I guess Matt was right" and hopefully I can find a few people to talk to at college but its not looking good so far on that front either
@fgtveassassin To most normies, you *are* the "crazy" one. We are the dissident right, we ARE the counterculture. That won't be taken well by most people who just want to get along in society and not rock the boat.
Making very clear the “I don’t hate anyone” bit is crucial when I’ve talked to people
@JC Yeah, some of my more normie tier friends use the term "anti-white" now, so our ideas are getting out there, we just have to put them out there.
The Ethnostate could easily happen if we could make the whole world sympathize with our situation.
There isn't a single person here who joined this group because of one person they talked to, so don't be discouraged.
Try not to get too frustrated, and take a tip from the media, exposure and repetition is key to getting accustomed to ideas.
Sympathy is the key.
@EverlastingTuck "Love for your own does not mean a hatred for others."
The general idea is that you’re either a centrist or a member of an alt right death squad and that doesn’t help us much