I don't discuss anything of such import with normies, no

non-normies react with scoffing and reactionary doubt

a few types tend to find themselves easily in the profiles, INTJ is one of them

but say an INFP

they not only may test something else

they may not be entirely convinced of their result

or if they agree with it, not be convinced it tells them anything much

also on a few of the questions i'll answer differently due to the fact that my grandfather on my mom's side is italian

to me it seems like pretty clear people have basically discussable personality traits. maybe you have to calibrate some things to get your model of the individual right.

yeah

yeah, MBTI is good, has a lot of legs

sorry why would it affect your answers @Alien Jesus

your ancestry

no just how my family on his side are

and how is that

differently compared to what?

you cant be other than what you are

yeah i was just saying as a general statement

I understand, fuck italians

nah

sorry, master race

it's fine

i really dont care

@UOC : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPWdOMI5by4

not metal

i'm mostly white anyway

are you doing the aspie test

yeah

cool, link the pdf please in the end

aight

I like dungeon synth stuff

and other metal-adjacent stuff like Empyrium or late Ulver

luckily Nester compiled a dungeon synth list too

its pretty short though

most of it sucks

even the good stuff is patchy

most dungeon synth sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1mDLrYcx1E

one of the best tracks

finished

http://www.rdos.net/pdf/5866466370834061643162884/quiz.pdf

damn

I guess you are an aspie

told ya

my faith was weak

i find your lack of faith disturbing

let me try to find mine

I have been thinking about the following project

tiered right wing literature reading list

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/301068107173068801/315589639840858114/daa.PNG

so no?

no

alright

I didn't think I was aspie though

the theripist i went to had an aspie son

this is the guy dems ran against the Montana body slamma

I'd vote for him

I'm closer to them than I am to the GOP anyway

Racism is over. https://youtu.be/bGKKzh-B7bc

montana dems are a better breed

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15171266_10207469308362519_8955436655465213249_n.jpg?oh=352f368ed4d9736bd994f588535a8be3&oe=59E2995B

is it a coincidence this is shaped like a colon + rectum

in Inferno, Dante is "reborn" into Purgatory through Satan's assholr

maybe he and Plato were both onto something

dang i missed that part

sounds great

@UOC well didnt the greek n romans back then luv them some pederasty

Plato was in the Athenian Nihilist Underground Society

He was in the anus

@isaac antsee#9174

hmm

What do you think about esoteric covfefe cult

My resolution

I won't be commenting any longer on websites and blogs

And I will not punish myself anymore by attempting to sit through any of Varg's diatribes other than if they concern gardening

He did make a good point though that Bosnians have nothing to do with Turks

Or more preciselly "BosniAKS"

Speaking about what keeps people united

I was reading the other day about a fight that broke out somewhere on Tibet

between a group of some hundred Sherpas and European mountaneers

Out of which most were probably hippies who think multi-culturalism is a great thing

And without even asking what's the problem, all Europeans present gathered behind other Europeans and joined the defense

Even if they could've easily have been the ones who started the trouble

Even a Pakistani found it natural to join European side, even though he is technically Asian like Sherpas

This is how Europe was and is most naturally united

covfefe

never forget

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3-15-22-6-5-6-5

somebody translate covfefe into hebrew

here's a sentence that utterly baffles me: "healthcare is a right."

healthcare should be a right guaranteed in a modern democratic nation state

is how to read it I guess

it's still nonsense in the american system. We don't guarantee positive rights.

they mean it should be a government entitlement like social security is my guess

i said it, therefore reality

seriously

"going to the moon is a right"

government entitlement = right pretty much

it's just semantics otherwise

rather than try to break down the emotionalism or absurdism of the symbol

it seems a better idea to me to construct the middle position out of it

to see if that is workable, sensible etc.

well, it stops being a semantics issue when it comes to congressional funding and judicial review. A right gets different judicial review than a mere entitlement program.

but I agree with you broadly, I have no problem with a middle ground

if the supreme court interpreted "life, liberty, pursuit of happiness" to include the right to healthcare it would have markedly different effects than just going to single payer healthcare by a law enacted by congress

why dont peope just call it the way it is "i think government should pay for people's healthcare"

why do shitlibs just have to state everything in abstract ideological maxims

because "right" sounds better than "entitlement" i guess

it's the same on both sides, it's how people think

and also, they make it a moral issue

yeah

as it follows from their first principles

and for that matter so does the opposition, because similar first principle issues

American healthcare is a big, rotten, corrupt mess, perhaps partially by design

Positive rights are cancer

healthcare in particular is worrying because it's not a demand that can be satisfied

you can spend infinite money on it and everyone will still die

@The Enlightened Shepherd how else do you ideologically subvert the base culture?

you're stretching it to absurdity @UOC

be fair

of course everyone will die

Point is, scarcity exists for it

I work in the NHS, it is a big mess too

I am, but it's already one of our biggest budget items here.

but I can see at the same time, it has considerable merits

and if there was a private setup parallel to it

it would be faultless

I have no problem with reform, including reform to a single payer system

shouldn't healthcare be a big budget item though?

it makes sense to me

it seems reasonable to me that when so many people (a nation) get together

that its for some good mass effect

Why not socialize food production ?

Maybe, if that's what it costs. I'm just exploring the problems with listing it as right vs. an entitlement. If it's a right, it's much harder (in our system) to place limits on it

doing that to a degree is also not a bad idea

Isn't food a right?

healthcare is simple

yeah, if healthcare is, food is just as much I guess

spend according to your possibilities

full stop

We all Know what that crap leads to

getting in debt to fund continuous healthcare demand is as dumb as it can get

do we? I'm not talking about complete socialization

Rationing that hurts everyone

again, stretched to absurdity

these are just dramatic gestures

Look at Canada they have rationing

putting all the food production of one country

you can declaer something a right or even better

a policy

under control of one bureaucracy / system

It's not absurd

but unless it works it wont get anywhere

is a bad idea for efficiency reasons

and that's how it worked out in the soviet shit I think you are referring to

you candeclare "OUR POLICY IS THAT EVERONE HAS ACCESS TO QUALITY FOOD" but unless you can make it work, its another gesture

and you cant

however is it in principle a bad idea for government to have some degree of food production as a safety net or plan for black swan event?

absolutely not

i mean you can to extent to which you have material foundation for it

production or storage

Just curious, can a doctor operate a private practice in the Uk ?

not like the US, but yes

@fallot explain

it's bad though

What i'm suggesting is not that absurd, fallot. Our system is already highly concentrated at the very top - the sickest 1% or so account for like 40-50% of our healthcare costs. If we move to guarantee treatment as a right we're looking at an enormous tax burden increase.

I can't simply by myself open up a clinic where I see patients

however, I can group up with a bunch of other specialists and start my own private healthcare firm

today's food situation is a typical example of what happens when standards replace reality

we have tons of surplus food that according to "standards" is healthy

and even acessible

but it just sucks

@UOC from what I've heard expanding medical to everyone would be around 20 trillion

Medicare

communist countries with heavy industry and nuclear power plants had *better* food than in capitalism

because food was decomodified

this is false

but it was lacking

and hence the problem

its simply not true

what you just said

go third path instead

fake news!

i mean "better"

@OJneg @fallot depends on how you do it. That's my whole point. Doing it as a "right" makes it way harder to say "this much, and no more" than just doing it as a program

take it with a doze of flexibility

it was less industrialized

it's the slogan of the other side

but at the same time if you are offering it to everyone regardless of their circumstance (except nationality)

I hear in N Korea everyone gets free hOver boards

it is a right, extended by the government

"this much and no more" is a practical issue

You're speaking philosophically and you're correct. But legally, "right" is different than "law enacted by congress"

how are the people who say right speaking

I don't know

philosophically or legally?

I think philosophically

they don't specify lol

its a moral argument

I think you're right

I think you're law enacted by congress

They don't Know how they're speaking they just want free stuff

haha but it is the way of the jew to speak with double meanings and retreat to the safe one if he's called out

articulation or even consciousness of their argument shouldn't stop one from considering it coldly

that is true

@UOClmao<:yehuda:286647952569532417>

a lot of leftist stuff is simply cover

for jew/lizard/satan

like "brotherhood of man"

its a truism, certainly in many senses there is a brotherhood of man

(((equality)))

but what do you do from there, what do you justify on the basis of that

is open ended unless it is under some other context

like tribe (nationalism) or God

if you read Peter Singer or other older, better utilitarians

you could interpret "brotherhood of man" to be the widest circle of ethical responsibility

i.e. if you happened to see a guy drowning, knowing nothing else, you might throw him a rope

I think that's incoherent

it doesn't give me a reason

ethics is cancer

but if that circle conflicts with a higher ethical circle, you'd stick to the higher circle

well the underlying reason i've assumed is just the Utilitarian "greatest good" thing which is ultimately axiomatic and therefore incoherent

yeah

i'm watching old mormon vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4xfuJoj5YI#t=11m8s

look how white and wholesome those kids are

where's exilarch

Thad nationalism

lel

but weren't they all white and wholesome

in 1968

or is that past the peak

they all meaning mormons or americans?

americans, but I guess I meant whites

white media

1968 is when it all went to hell

Pretty sure Mormons didn't let blacks in until the 70s

no, blacks were always allowed to be members of the church

they couldn't hold the priesthood

Theologically they were cursed by Yahweh

the beach boys discography is like a perfect snapshot of what leftism does to culture

Could be wrong, I'm operating on here say

it's pretty sad this kid would likely be ritually abused by demonic mormon pseudopriests

the mormons stayed WASP while the east coast got flooded by wops micks slavs and jews

"the whole family needs help"

honestly

its a frame of mind thing, the gulf states should really be a model for that