Message from @fallot
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as it follows from their first principles
and for that matter so does the opposition, because similar first principle issues
American healthcare is a big, rotten, corrupt mess, perhaps partially by design
Positive rights are cancer
healthcare in particular is worrying because it's not a demand that can be satisfied
you can spend infinite money on it and everyone will still die
@The Enlightened Shepherd how else do you ideologically subvert the base culture?
be fair
of course everyone will die
Point is, scarcity exists for it
I work in the NHS, it is a big mess too
I am, but it's already one of our biggest budget items here.
but I can see at the same time, it has considerable merits
and if there was a private setup parallel to it
it would be faultless
I have no problem with reform, including reform to a single payer system
shouldn't healthcare be a big budget item though?
it makes sense to me
it seems reasonable to me that when so many people (a nation) get together
Why not socialize food production ?
Maybe, if that's what it costs. I'm just exploring the problems with listing it as right vs. an entitlement. If it's a right, it's much harder (in our system) to place limits on it
doing that to a degree is also not a bad idea
Isn't food a right?
healthcare is simple
yeah, if healthcare is, food is just as much I guess
spend according to your possibilities
full stop
We all Know what that crap leads to
getting in debt to fund continuous healthcare demand is as dumb as it can get
do we? I'm not talking about complete socialization
Rationing that hurts everyone
again, stretched to absurdity
these are just dramatic gestures
Look at Canada they have rationing
putting all the food production of one country
you can declaer something a right or even better
a policy
under control of one bureaucracy / system
It's not absurd