Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd

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2017-05-31 16:04:53 UTC  

under control of one bureaucracy / system

2017-05-31 16:04:56 UTC  

It's not absurd

2017-05-31 16:04:56 UTC  

but unless it works it wont get anywhere

2017-05-31 16:04:56 UTC  

is a bad idea for efficiency reasons

2017-05-31 16:05:11 UTC  

and that's how it worked out in the soviet shit I think you are referring to

2017-05-31 16:05:20 UTC  

you candeclare "OUR POLICY IS THAT EVERONE HAS ACCESS TO QUALITY FOOD" but unless you can make it work, its another gesture

2017-05-31 16:05:29 UTC  

and you cant

2017-05-31 16:05:37 UTC  

however is it in principle a bad idea for government to have some degree of food production as a safety net or plan for black swan event?

2017-05-31 16:05:41 UTC  

absolutely not

2017-05-31 16:05:46 UTC  

i mean you can to extent to which you have material foundation for it

2017-05-31 16:05:47 UTC  

production or storage

2017-05-31 16:06:00 UTC  

Just curious, can a doctor operate a private practice in the Uk ?

2017-05-31 16:06:10 UTC  

not like the US, but yes

2017-05-31 16:06:20 UTC  

@fallot explain

2017-05-31 16:06:21 UTC  

it's bad though

2017-05-31 16:06:23 UTC  

What i'm suggesting is not that absurd, fallot. Our system is already highly concentrated at the very top - the sickest 1% or so account for like 40-50% of our healthcare costs. If we move to guarantee treatment as a right we're looking at an enormous tax burden increase.

2017-05-31 16:06:34 UTC  

I can't simply by myself open up a clinic where I see patients

2017-05-31 16:06:49 UTC  

however, I can group up with a bunch of other specialists and start my own private healthcare firm

2017-05-31 16:06:53 UTC  

today's food situation is a typical example of what happens when standards replace reality

2017-05-31 16:07:04 UTC  

we have tons of surplus food that according to "standards" is healthy

2017-05-31 16:07:08 UTC  

and even acessible

2017-05-31 16:07:10 UTC  

but it just sucks

2017-05-31 16:07:18 UTC  

@UOC from what I've heard expanding medical to everyone would be around 20 trillion

2017-05-31 16:07:26 UTC  

Medicare

2017-05-31 16:07:31 UTC  

communist countries with heavy industry and nuclear power plants had *better* food than in capitalism

2017-05-31 16:07:37 UTC  

because food was decomodified

2017-05-31 16:07:40 UTC  

this is false

2017-05-31 16:07:42 UTC  

but it was lacking

2017-05-31 16:07:46 UTC  

and hence the problem

2017-05-31 16:07:47 UTC  

its simply not true

2017-05-31 16:07:50 UTC  

what you just said

2017-05-31 16:07:50 UTC  

go third path instead

2017-05-31 16:08:08 UTC  

fake news!

2017-05-31 16:08:15 UTC  

i mean "better"

2017-05-31 16:08:17 UTC  

@OJneg @fallot depends on how you do it. That's my whole point. Doing it as a "right" makes it way harder to say "this much, and no more" than just doing it as a program

2017-05-31 16:08:20 UTC  

take it with a doze of flexibility

2017-05-31 16:08:27 UTC  

it was less industrialized

2017-05-31 16:08:30 UTC  

it's the slogan of the other side

2017-05-31 16:08:46 UTC  

but at the same time if you are offering it to everyone regardless of their circumstance (except nationality)

2017-05-31 16:08:49 UTC  

I hear in N Korea everyone gets free hOver boards

2017-05-31 16:08:56 UTC  

it is a right, extended by the government