not like the US, but yes

@fallot explain

it's bad though

What i'm suggesting is not that absurd, fallot. Our system is already highly concentrated at the very top - the sickest 1% or so account for like 40-50% of our healthcare costs. If we move to guarantee treatment as a right we're looking at an enormous tax burden increase.

I can't simply by myself open up a clinic where I see patients

however, I can group up with a bunch of other specialists and start my own private healthcare firm

today's food situation is a typical example of what happens when standards replace reality

we have tons of surplus food that according to "standards" is healthy

and even acessible

but it just sucks

@UOC from what I've heard expanding medical to everyone would be around 20 trillion

Medicare

communist countries with heavy industry and nuclear power plants had *better* food than in capitalism

because food was decomodified

this is false

but it was lacking

and hence the problem

its simply not true

what you just said

go third path instead

fake news!

i mean "better"

@OJneg @fallot depends on how you do it. That's my whole point. Doing it as a "right" makes it way harder to say "this much, and no more" than just doing it as a program

take it with a doze of flexibility

it was less industrialized

it's the slogan of the other side

but at the same time if you are offering it to everyone regardless of their circumstance (except nationality)

I hear in N Korea everyone gets free hOver boards

it is a right, extended by the government

"this much and no more" is a practical issue

You're speaking philosophically and you're correct. But legally, "right" is different than "law enacted by congress"

how are the people who say right speaking

I don't know

philosophically or legally?

I think philosophically

they don't specify lol

its a moral argument

I think you're right

I think you're law enacted by congress

They don't Know how they're speaking they just want free stuff

haha but it is the way of the jew to speak with double meanings and retreat to the safe one if he's called out