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DRW have been training with shields and formations, and present the best choice for being front and center in front of the speakers.
We are working trying to get other groups on the same page.
Spotters should be people who can quickly, clearly, and calmly transmit information over radios.
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When we need to leave, if the antifa crowd hasn't dispersed, we can create a moving perimeter around the VIPS as we leave.
Just a thought- the street to the right is often closed for festivals held in the park/ they'll or food trucks there etc. If @MadDimension can potentially get the permit to do that it would be great to have that space available for loading and unloading and other event related things.
The Detroit group evidently is coming in 2-3, 15 passenger vans so perhaps they can help us shuttle folks in.
I'm working logistics for the Helicopter with some of my guys
@MadDimension We can do that
Thanks @TiborSzalasi-MI
If anyone wants to help make phone calls for estimates on the helicopter rental please DM me.
Or if you own a Helicopter or have a Helicopter license and would like to volunteer, please let me know. I will talk to the mods about a separate channel for the Helicopter Team.
Can we please keep the discussion on here serious
Agreed! So, seriously...
Check this out. We look into how much it would cost to rent a helicopter for the day in Charlottesville on 8/12. Let's look at the most cost effective place to launch a crowdfunding effort. Whether the ad is funny or we play it straight, I guarantee we can at least get Chris Cantwell to play it on air. TRS or the Stormer might write something or post a link. Even if we don't actually have a helicopter on hand, it would be pretty lulzy to see if it gets some reactions.
This will generate buzz about the event, and it will be something to sound different than any other event/march/rally than anyone has ever heard promoted.
And how wicked would it be to one day have VIPs arrive to our events via helicopter?
@MadDimension Those are the kind of vans i'm talking about.
@Tyrone Dude, any money that people would be willing to donate for that should go towards the event or getting people to it
He is an enlisted goy trying to keep his job after posting a kickass banner IRL in Graham NC
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thx
I was there. He was a brave mofo fighting for the 14 words.
Wish I already had my CDL. I need to get a Deuce and a Quarter or Bus and have a war rig for these transport operations.
Bunker Santa did nothing wrong
Bunker Santa is legit
@Tyrone if people want to use their personal money to rent a helicopter, fine. But it's a waste of money that could go towards the cause or donations towards people who don't have the money to make it, but at able to go.
@Tyrone how about crowd funding an airplane banner. We can use my dad's plane and fly it over lee park while our vips are giving speeches.
Air propaganda is good optics
Until they ID the plane, and harass your dad to no end....
how about not wasting money on dumb shit
Lots of negative energy in here
Please stop trolling this channel and use the shitposting channel
@Hand Banana very sorry about that, I will use appropriate channels now
@ManWithTheHand That is actually a good idea. A Supportive Airplane banner dying over the event and over the town would be awesome optics.
@ManWithTheHand DM me and we can talk about what goes into the construction or the costs of something like that.
@Hand Banana I don't think you are getting the point of a quality troll. I don't want to take $1 away from people that would come to the event.
It is incredibly unlikely that even if a few people throw in money toward a crowd funding that it would make its goal. An entertaining GoFundMe video/audio and ad could be used to promote the event as a whole. It will just sound like a different way to promote something than "Here's a rally, show up and stick it to the Antifa!"
There's also a reasonable chance opposition could talk about it and unwillingly spread the word of the event in ways that it wouldn't otherwise be done.
Or do we just want to let opposition media continue to refer to it in relation to the (((KKK))) event the previous month? @Hand Banana
In the unlikely event it did make the funding necessary, I would have a serious conversation with the donors about fiduciary responsibility of the monies and how to use them to best advance the 14 words.
^^^
Best martial arts for antifa /riot scenario?
Yeah
Run to the shower
They wont follow
Sambo
I just have been doing kick boxing ... All they have around me is muay, judo and kick boxing
@b-luccason DGAF - it allows you to do whatever the fuck comes to mind without remorse.
Judo is a lot of fun, very useful
I suggest you take up these chants:
"you can't run, you can't hide, you get a helicopter ride" and "you fags, go home, you have low testosterone"
I like that first one. Second one is eh. @Skull
@here do we have a game plan against fags like pic related? The left is getting more aggressive and how long before our free speech demonstration just gets shot into like a barrel full of fish?
Which is why I support allowing everyone to open carry. I don't want this event, or any for that matter, to be the one where we decide we should have been carrying and that we'll carry "next time"
@Stormer DC 100% agree but the media is likely to cover the event and it's be really easy to flip the headline to be "armed racists gather in park to start a race war" and that'd be bad news for all of us.
Would you rather the headline be "unarmed racists shot, 5 dead, several others hospitalized??"
I think there's a place and time for fully armed events. Let's respect they the organizers don't want this to be this event.
I will most likely be concal carrying anyway I'm just looking out for those who won't have a permit.
We need a sort of third party armed security force that isn't affiliated with any of our groups like IE or TWP so no one's image gets bashed
Like actual Right Wing Safety Squads
If we were the government we would have rooftop spotters, likely armed
I guarantee you VA doesn't give a shit about being seen armed
@Norge๐ณ๐ด - SD like Aryan Brotherhood. No ideology. They just like to fight against non-whites
Yes but some of us like IE don't want that reputation.
Oh great a bunch of skinheads armed. Now that's GREAT optics
@Tyrone yes but preferably a group with less stigma
^^^^^
If the oath keepers weren't faggots this is what they would exist for.
I give no fucks about "stigma" in a right context. Stigma is turning a reputation for effectiveness into a pejorative.
Anyone such "unaffiliated" enforcers would find themselves in the same ideological space from out (((enemies))) propaganda.
I'll stand side by side with skinheads any day, I'm just saying that if it's the optics of being armed that concerns people then having skinheads being armed doesn't really help that
^^^
The Proud Boys are called neo-Nazis and white supremacists
Most Aryan Brotherhood are legal prevented from owning a gun.
I'm not sure that having armed particpants is actually bad for optics anyway. I'd bet it would show a lot of the NRA cucks who the TRUE defenders of their country really are and could likely lead many of them to join the cause.
That's kinda part of the nature of the demographic that has no choice but to embrace an extreme identity.
and I'd take 1 NRA cuck for every 5 shitlibs any day
@Tyrone re: what you said earlier about NFA, I know of a genuinely unhinged open WN who was a Class III dealer at one point. Got arrested for a crime involving violence, so presumably never again, but it wasn't a political thing AFAIK.
NRA type cucks are hopeless in lots of ways. "Muh 2nd amendment" cucks are usually somehow convince that muh rights and gun will make them an invincible army of one once SHTF.
I also have a good friend who was an open WN and had an NFA collection, but he paid through the nose for it.
Ionno I tend to think that if they saw a militia out there that they saw as willing to fight to defend the country they'd be inclined to join up.
@Stormer DC They see defending their own race and defending multiracial 'Murica as mutually exclusive.
@Stanislav ฤajiฤ Ruby Ridge was also a nominal NFA case where they wanted to lean on an insider to create an informant
Many do but there are plenty of racist rednecks out there that just haven't seen any groups like ours before as well.
Between cost of entry and invasive paperwork. It's de facto illegal.
And it also means then anyone who does jump through the hoops is going to go to extra length to stay within the lines. Some places make that VERY hard to do.
Anyway I will respect what Jason wants us to do but I'm just telling it like I see and no one is ever going to convince me that open carrying is bad optics just for the record.
@Tyrone The guy I'm thinking of sold his dealership and wasn't in the gun industry when he got in trouble for going to someone's house and trying to break down the door, IIRC.
I hesitate to give context because it would open a can of worms that has nothing to do with us right now. I'm talking about WN 1.0 personalities.
My original point was that being a bad goy doesn't really stop you from passing most formal background checks.
You are correct.
NFA isn't a normal background check however. Neither is a class three license. The new rules in the 90s really cut down on that method. The price alone is prohibitively engaging
Price, of course, except some lower-end new-production NFA items that you can get as a dealer sample, only to market to LE and military of course.
I still know a goy who passed the checks for pre-86 machine guns, and know of this other one who was an NFA dealer if my memory serves. He would have been known to the feds.
I just see this getting worse and worse as thought crimes become a bigger and bigger political cause.
I expect to see permit renewals being denied.
I can't say they wouldn't.
As we gain legitimacy with the white population, we also get scarier.
I beg to differ here ... 5 years ago but now the enemy isnt just bringing tire irons
I think concealed carry is the way to go. Unless the militias would be willing to do security for free, just for freedom of speech rights, I don't see anyone helping out unless we pay a private company to do security. That would be outrageously expensive though.
Or we get our own armed security..?
We need security for Nathan and Richard, unless we already have that covered.
(I assume we do)
We already have the vips covered
Some of the three percent militias are pretty based
Yeah some, not the ones I've met but at least they treated us fairly well. The leader was an Nordic Pagan, kept randomly yelling Odin!
I yelled it with him lol
So did the other two guys with me
Goddamn, that beard though.
That red dot ๐
If anyone is driving and parking near the event, do something about the stickers on your vehicles if you have any that are "rightwing" in nature. I have seen on an antifa site where they stake them out and wait to do an ambush. Or just bust the windows out.
That is why I took all my trump and NRA stickers off my car before going to the rally in DC now I have nothing on my car.... may even put a coexist sticker in the window to trick them
Okay I know the ladies aren't very welcome here BUT..... I've just learned that the city is closing streets down around the park for the KKK rally which for whatever reason they're estimating 800 for. (Includes protesters) this will very much change up access points and direction of travel. I am going out on town on Saturday, so I'm going to ask someone locally to please map out what they do so I can share it here.
That's a great idea @PrimitveXaoc
Well some of us wheatfield dwellers aren't only useful in the kitchen ๐
@HueTheHand I have a coexist sticker you can use
Alright, a few months ago I went into the type of tactics Antifa uses in street engagements, very in depth, during this podcast. Try and give it a listen.
https://youtu.be/Vy0nG15Iacs
@everyone This is a general call for people to help with general event security. For the rally in Lee Park, we will be forming a large shield wall around the speakers. The DRW right now are forming the bulk of the wall. The more people we get however, the larger and more effective we can become. If anybody has any interest in being part of a highly organized defense against the Antifa that are sure to come, please message @Heinz - MI, or post in <#321395356216590347>. The attached document has all of the information needed to become familiar with what we will be doing.
I'm just saying we could do the most frightening rebel yell in over 100 years if we wanted to.
There was a pretty damned impressive rebel yell at the torch rally the first time.
@Commander Davis (TWP) i like that idea
@Commander Davis (TWP) I love that idea
https://www.dailystormer.com/save-the-sacramento-spartans-hero-will-arrested-for-defending-his-life-against-antifa-terrorists/ watch these videos... Never get split off
haha fuk yes - but jesus christ - how much more facitious can we get - "If you have any questions, please let us know; we would be happy to mail to you copies of the Constitution of the United States if you misplaced yours" - Let there be no mistake - these two sides have irreconciable differences that will never reach compromise - the only question is the level of conflict to decide the victor
view of the park, we have the high ground
At an Augustus Invictus rally that was supposed to happen on the New Haven Green, people were picked off by Antifa as they arrived gradually in small groups. The rally was canceled and Invictus refused to show.
At the debriefing we decided that for round 2 it would be best to build up our numbers at a different location and then arrive at the Green all at once.
My question is, do we have a rendezvous point for us to build strength and arrive at Lee Park in force?
Yes. Details will be annouced closer to the event.
Understood.
The feeling when you've spent a month building a shield and dad said you couldn't take it out to play๐
Well they tell me I'm going on 15 but I'll be 50 in September
A very young 50 LOL
oh
i missed the context
yeah shits lame
I made a 2 ft round Shield and then the tall Shield. I thought maybe they needed people to rotate in and out of the shield wall to give people a break so I was going to bring it. I had not spoke to anybody in the security detail though
hopefully that whole issue will get sorted out. It seems silly to me.
What issue?
@greg-ky just give it to someone else, non-IE, to use ๐
@McCarthy the announcement saying that we could not take Shields or anything of that nature.
@McCarthy the announcement saying that we could not take Shields or anything of that nature.
Why not??
Molon labe my shield
@Stannisthemannis IE only
everyone else is can do what their command says
Ahh ok nm
@Brandon W PA Holy shit. Is there more info on that rally and exactly what went down?
@Diethard I'll dig up an article for you in a minute.
@Brandon W PA Thanks in advance m8
@Diethard Here's their version of what happened. They cut out a bunch of important details, but it's still talks about what happened to us. Sorry to make you click on this cuckrag.
https://itsgoingdown.org/elm-city-report-back-keeping-green-clean/
>ItsGoingDown
Fugg. Thanks though man, I appreciate it. Info like this can be useful in the future
@Diethard My big takeaway was that we should have a secret meetup spot and then roll out in force. I put that forward as a suggestion here. I think this tactic is more for when we won't have crazy massive numbers like we will in Cville.
Closed calls are the way to go in my humble opinion. I remember Heimbach pulled that off brilliantly in Chicago.
Archive that IGD link!!!!!!
@Brandon W PA ๐
This picture makes my blood boil, JFC
Local nigger goads proud white man
@WV1987 That guy came to fight. He's yelling at this goy I met from IE.. This is literally how we met actually.The 7 of us had a crowd of about 30 coming after us.
there was video of him flipping out
We ought to re-enact this scene
Singing anything in chorus would be awesome
Everybody learn Erika.
^^^
I'm dead serious about this btw
Or Unser Rommel. It's my favorite march, tbh.
not to optics fag but singing any German song would be bad. Something like Dixie would be more apporite to the event
Yep, and for the sake of practicality learning German lyrics would be hard
Dixie is great!
Everyone knows it too
Haha, true. Dixie is a great choice.
Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Old times there are not forgotten.
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land!
In Dixie's Land, where I was born in,
early on one frosty mornin'.
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land!
I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie's Land I'll take my stand,
to live and die in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie!
Away, away, away down south in Dixie!
** Deafening rebel yell **
My eyes have seen the glory of the trampling at the zoo...
We definitely should memorize some southern songs, or the anthem from that video
I'll start passing around the lyrics and letting folks know
When would be the best opportunity to do it?
Which song are we doing?
I like the welsh anthem
I vote both. Dixie because everyone will know it, Welsh anthem because it sounds great and is fitting
but we'll need to spread the word about both, and I don't think most people know the lyrics to the Welsh anthem
I absolutely love the wartime version, "To Arms in Dixie"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5YR23ss1_n0
"The Song of the Rebel Irish" was featured in a deleted scene from "Gods and Generals" (this is the full version, but the scene is also available on JooTube), and based on the lyrics is my very favorite, but it would be a lot for everyone to learn. Maybe a choice verse or two?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aWB7_o6x6DA
@PureDureSure if we have note cards with the lyrics this time it would be better imo
Lastly (I'll shut up after this), Moseley's BUF Anthem is a partial translation and adaptation of the "Horst Wessel Lied". It was also brilliantly covered by Skrewdriver as "Hail the New Dawn", which would be a fine choice, too.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI
Everyone should study these lyrics and practice singing them: https://americancivilwar.com/Civil_War_Music/song_lyrics/I_Wish_I_Was_In_Dixie.html
I'll print out cards to be passed around at the rally
Sweet
What about the welsh anthem?
Sure, I'd be game to do that as well! That's my personal favorite
I'm considering passing around a version with "Harlech" changed to "Europe" and "Welshmen" to "White Men", what do y'all think? ๐ค
Or should I preserve the original?
Can you link me to the lyrics
or paste them here
and I like that idea
Of changing it to europe and white men
Is this it?
This is the version I was thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUHCkVBJgVk
I dig it. Someone needs to copy a full version of the lyrics that people can memorize by reading all at once
You got it m8
*Men of Europe stop your dreaming
Can't you see their spear points gleaming
See their warrior pennants streaming
To this battlefield
Men of Europe stand ye steady
It cannot be ever said ye
For this battle were not ready
White Men never yield
From the hills rebounding
Let this war cry sounding
Summon all at Dixie's call
The mighty force surrounding
Men of Europe onto glory
This will ever be your story
Keep these burning words before ye
White Men will not yield*
Sweet. And you just repeat?
Yep!
someone should pin that
Get a mod to approve
Also cambria is another name for wales
So just replace it with europe
This. All of this.
Man, I love it that everyone is so on the same page. I was thinking last week that this would be awesome. I was thinking about this song, though:
https://youtu.be/YAfHigPsC_s
Would we be able to have the same pattern with a lead and then a backing chorus if antifa was shouting us down, though?
This one too, though it's got the same problem Erika has:
https://youtu.be/29Mg6Gfh9Co
@d.d.mcree
That second clip is proof of Anglin's Law (every anti-Trump/Hitler meme becomes a pro-Trump/Hitler meme) from before we were born!
That song was written by the two Jews who created "Cabaret", with the goal of terrifying the viewer. Lol
I saw Cabaret back whe I was a kid. Never liked it. The song is pretty good though.
Cabaret is a great red pilling movie if framed correctly.
It's basically the story of degenerates who lose everything because of the rise of the nazis. We are suppose to feel sorry for them... of coouurrrse but if we see the main characters for the degenerates they are you find yourself rooting for the NSDAP
And this is the most Jewish song ever
https://youtu.be/I8P80A8vy9I
Now compare that "good guys" song to this "bad guys" song
https://youtu.be/FN7r0Rr1Qyc
@Hand Banana The Left got this protesting thing down like a science.
I still call for the rebel yell
sounds like a pack of hyenas
or monkeys ๐
Here's the real deal...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6jSqt39vFM
Priorities for everyone: Learn how to do the Rebel Yell, learn to sing Dixie, and learn to sing Men of Europe (https://ghostbin.com/REDACTED)
proposing a slight change
Men of Europe stop your dreaming Can't you see their numbers teeming
See their red and black flags streaming
To this battlefield
@TiborSzalasi-MI I like it but don't want to alter the original too much or it will become hard to remember
REMINDER: please learn the Rebel Yell (youtube.com/watch?v=ya3J3GuJFmE), learn to sing Dixie (youtube.com/watch?v=h6FaJ9U2bh8), and learn to sing Men of Europe (https://ghostbin.com/REDACTED)
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