I'll stand side by side with skinheads any day, I'm just saying that if it's the optics of being armed that concerns people then having skinheads being armed doesn't really help that

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The Proud Boys are called neo-Nazis and white supremacists

Most Aryan Brotherhood are legal prevented from owning a gun.

I'm not sure that having armed particpants is actually bad for optics anyway. I'd bet it would show a lot of the NRA cucks who the TRUE defenders of their country really are and could likely lead many of them to join the cause.

That's kinda part of the nature of the demographic that has no choice but to embrace an extreme identity.

and I'd take 1 NRA cuck for every 5 shitlibs any day

@Tyrone re: what you said earlier about NFA, I know of a genuinely unhinged open WN who was a Class III dealer at one point. Got arrested for a crime involving violence, so presumably never again, but it wasn't a political thing AFAIK.

NRA type cucks are hopeless in lots of ways. "Muh 2nd amendment" cucks are usually somehow convince that muh rights and gun will make them an invincible army of one once SHTF.

I also have a good friend who was an open WN and had an NFA collection, but he paid through the nose for it.

Ionno I tend to think that if they saw a militia out there that they saw as willing to fight to defend the country they'd be inclined to join up.

@Stormer DC They see defending their own race and defending multiracial 'Murica as mutually exclusive.

@Stanislav Đajić Ruby Ridge was also a nominal NFA case where they wanted to lean on an insider to create an informant

Many do but there are plenty of racist rednecks out there that just haven't seen any groups like ours before as well.

Between cost of entry and invasive paperwork. It's de facto illegal.

And it also means then anyone who does jump through the hoops is going to go to extra length to stay within the lines. Some places make that VERY hard to do.

Anyway I will respect what Jason wants us to do but I'm just telling it like I see and no one is ever going to convince me that open carrying is bad optics just for the record.

@Tyrone The guy I'm thinking of sold his dealership and wasn't in the gun industry when he got in trouble for going to someone's house and trying to break down the door, IIRC.

I hesitate to give context because it would open a can of worms that has nothing to do with us right now. I'm talking about WN 1.0 personalities.

My original point was that being a bad goy doesn't really stop you from passing most formal background checks.

You are correct.

NFA isn't a normal background check however. Neither is a class three license. The new rules in the 90s really cut down on that method. The price alone is prohibitively engaging

Price, of course, except some lower-end new-production NFA items that you can get as a dealer sample, only to market to LE and military of course.

I still know a goy who passed the checks for pre-86 machine guns, and know of this other one who was an NFA dealer if my memory serves. He would have been known to the feds.

I just see this getting worse and worse as thought crimes become a bigger and bigger political cause.

I expect to see permit renewals being denied.

I can't say they wouldn't.

As we gain legitimacy with the white population, we also get scarier.

I beg to differ here ... 5 years ago but now the enemy isnt just bringing tire irons

I think concealed carry is the way to go. Unless the militias would be willing to do security for free, just for freedom of speech rights, I don't see anyone helping out unless we pay a private company to do security. That would be outrageously expensive though.

Or we get our own armed security..?

We need security for Nathan and Richard, unless we already have that covered.

(I assume we do)

We already have the vips covered

Some of the three percent militias are pretty based

Yeah some, not the ones I've met but at least they treated us fairly well. The leader was an Nordic Pagan, kept randomly yelling Odin!

I yelled it with him lol

So did the other two guys with me

Goddamn, that beard though.

That red dot 😕