Perfect

@missliterallywho unfortunately most of Europe is a dystopian hellhole too. Just got back from France and now super black pilled.

@Deleted User France... or Paris? Europe isn't so bad depending on the country.

@ThisIsChris we were in the Alsace region, Black Forest region of Germany, and Switzerland. Lots and lots of Africans and Arabs in Strasbourg.

When young single women refer to themselves as a “dog mom”, does that mean they’re pro-motherhood, just not yet with humans to mother?

It’s such an odd phrase to me, I don’t like the humanization of dogs.

Ambiguous. Could be a joke coming from anyone,

Or does it mean they’re content with dogs being surrogate children for them, forever?

Would have to have more context

Usually it means they're trying to replace children with pets, unless they're really young

It’s a way to channel maternal instinct without the responsibility of children. Honestly, to understand the psychological reasoning, just google “no children buzzfeed.” Spells it out in plain English. @Tanner - SC

Update to my online dating findings/guesses:
* Don’t send a “like” or a “wink”. That’s validation without content and is low-effort. It’s like submitting your resume to online job postings with no cover letter and no in-person networking. Very low success rate. It also doesn’t have the traditional feel of a man taking a risk and initiating contact. A “like” doesn’t mean much, even the neediest guy is likely undisturbed if he doesn’t get a “like” back. Sending a message is initiating a conversation, more relevant to physical courtship. When a woman doesn’t respond to a message, it’s a more real rejection. You as a man are putting yourself out there more with a message, without being more needy, more like being courageous/vulnerable.
* “Likes” are more for women to initiate interest with a man. Messages are more for men to initiate interest with a woman.
* Send a one-sentence question relevant to the woman’s profile. It shows that you actually read her profile, not just felt a twitch in your pants when looking at her pic. If she doesn’t have much information in her profile, she must not be serious about trying to find a serious date. Don’t introduce yourself, don’t say how you liked this part of her profile. Just ask her a question relevant to her background/interests to strike a conversation. Same as if you were at lunch with male coworkers and one of them mentioned their hobby or something and you’re looking to continue the conversation. Try to not be basic in your message. The question can be a joke, but doesn’t need to be. More than one sentence can appear overly invested for an initial contact.
* She gets a hundred “likes” each week. She only gets dozens of messages. She gets a single digit number of messages that are higher brow than “hey babe”. When she gets a higher brow message, she’ll likely be prompted to look at your profile. If she likes your profile, she’ll respond.

I absolutely agree, good point. Updated.

I am relieved I found my wife early in life before internet dating was a thing.

I need your help borthers. I have a date with a qt I met at the mall, (I thought she was wearing a generation identity shirt but it was actually a stylized overwatch logo, per the meme) she kinda seems like a twitch thot but seems pretty into me from texting a bit. Anyway we are going to a museum which I am worried will set off my autism any ideas on how to appear normal?

"just be yourself" - Chad

Sounds like a solid strategy

don't underestimate how much people like to talk about themselves lol. If you can ask the right questions, she'll go on forever

So I should try to strike a balance between getting the focus of the conversation on her without showing too much interest right? I've kind of heard that part both ways, in terms of being aloof or showing genuine interest.

@missliterallywho funny how women feel like that when they talk alot

Yet guys will ramble on and on without a thought, I wonder if it's women are just more aware of their effect on the surrounding environment, although why I don't know

The same way women will cover their mouth when chewing, I always find it funny in an odd way

They acknowledge their actions in the world around them, with a specific set of rules thats seem to apply only to them

Ive been on both sides of it, if we are talking about a topic I like and the girl seems intelligent then I usually am interested in what she is saying but ive also just nodded along when girls gab on , more so when its about somthing stupid, and the only reason to pay attention is cause shes cute. So then its fake

You seem more interested in how they brought you to speak so much and easily when normally you don't but maybe you hit a topic you enjoyed speaking about that normally you dont get a chance to talk about. Or maybe your just socially awkward hence you dont say much and when you are able to talk in a comfortable setting with a seemingly interested person you gab on

Which I can kind of speak from experience there because I use to do that.

Yea I do the same thing with strangers go way to into personal details, not sure why i was homeschooled maybe thats why. I dont know. But ive become alot less socially awkward thr older I get

But it's still there..haha

Haha

Thats a good thing in my mind

@Attrition in the desert update?

@ThisIsChris Going to a museum tomorrow. Texted a bit with some of the advice from you fine people, (getting her to talk about herself ect)

wholesome! have fun!

I'm in no position to give advice. Good luck!

Fresh OC from me:

My sister is working on setting me up with an old basketball friend who is 6'5". Talked with the girl's sister who said she'd probably be into it. She's never dated much because "1. She'll only date taller guys [I am 6'9"], but she doesn't like black guys."
BIG IF TRUE

Tall if true

I met her years ago when my sister and she played ball. But yes, 6'7" average relationship height if it works out.

IE eugenics program

sheesh

Marriage is for eugenics. Whatever you got, get more or get something good to go with it.

I was *sheeshing* at the heights, not the eugenics part 😉

Oh yeah. I'm a total freak. Shorter than me dad, though.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN bruh

Christ dude!

best of luck on your date

No date is arranged yet. Perhaps jinxing it... We'll see. I'm trying to get contacts and a haircut before the first meet up.
And back to church for at least a week or two. She's a pastor's daughter. -__-'
I read most of the New Testament this summer, and listen to the godcast weekly. So I'm pretty well versed in scripture.
That could be my biggest difficulty.

Don't want to be "that guy" that just goes to church for le trad waifu, though.

Project confidence

I have lost 35 lbs in seven weeks, thanks to keto and lifting.

I want to be "that guy"

If that means acquiring a trad waifu

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN good luck man. My gf isn't a pastor's daughter but she is pretty close considering her family is the only family in Australia who are members of my church and her father leads their Sunday worship services. Try to get on good terms with her father. It's really important for actual trad girls that you have the approval of their male family members.

@Der Seeteufel - SD Thanks, and absolutely. Going to do this slow and right if at all.

Definitely keep going to church too and don't feel bad for going just for a girl. If that's how the Holy Spirit got you in the door that was God's plan.

Any good places to find trad waifus (I can't believe I just typed that) besides church?

I feel like any relationship started through church would be a lie since I don't believe

@TMatthews In my opinion no.

@TMatthews Shooting clubs? I almost said "farmers market" or "rodeo" but then again those are weird places to try to start a conversation.

This is purely anecdotal but everyone I know who has an actual trad relationship started it in church. I'm not saying you can't find good girls elsewhere but it's a lot harder. I tried for many years before I finally gave in and asked my pastor for help and he literally found me my current gf in less than a month and she is perfect.

Damn bro, nice.

As far as not being a believer goes that doesn't really worry me. Most people aren't. Just go to church anyway. You don't have to lie to anyone just go and listen. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

It would be an implicit lie at a minimum to go through the process of pretending to be a Christian just to get a gf

I don't think it would be that bad to explain to the girl that you are struggling with having faith and want to embrace the sense of community that church offers.

Don't pretend to be a Christian. Go to church, listen, and take part in the community. Tell people what you are doing and why. Tell them you haven't been able to establish good relationships and that even though you aren't a believer you thought church would be a good place to start.

Blessed and Bread-pilled
^(don't say that IRL)

I suppose. I made a real effort at converting last fall. Tried praying every night and whatnot. Never felt anything. To be fair, I didn't go to a physical church, but I didn't have a car either

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN - I'm glad for you either way. Seems like you're pretty excited about this girl. If you're struggling or something feel free to reach out, whether for advice or just someone to listen. I've recently had a rather devastating split with a girl, and helping out other guys is really something that's made me feel better about it all.

@Aleis⊕ccidentalis Thanks. And I'm sorry to hear that. It's been about a year since my last break up. I'll keep you in the loop!
Although I haven't talked to this girl too much recently. She might be dumb. I hope not! Let's find out.

*Varg emoji*

@TMatthews I think you are looking at it the wrong way. You shouldn't be trying to "feel" something. God is in everything so trying to feel his presence is like a fish trying to feel wet. Participate in the fellowship of believers and you will see positive outcomes in your life.

Also these things take time. For some of the saints it took entire lifetimes to rationalize their faith.

Let's try to keep this thread on courtship in relation to church and not a theological discussion.

@Der Seeteufel - SD I think this is a widespread thing. People expect to see a vision or feel a voice. I dont' know if it's the media conditioning, or just shitty pastors, but it's a 'missing feeling' I've also dealt with.

@Attrition in the desert Understood. Sorry.

Ok. My advice for courtship is as follows. Step 1. Go to church. Step 2. Meet trad GF. Step 3. Trust God will take care of things. Step 4. At least 7 kids. (I'm going for 8)

I'm not even sure where I'd go to find a trad church. I've met girls through college republicans, but it's fair to say conservative doesn't really describe them in their personal lives. I guess that's to be expected when you're at a college in the northeast

@Der Seeteufel - SD Lofty goals. Good luck though. Always good to have more IE babies

@TMatthews I'm told the go-to are SSPX catholic, Orthodox, and Confessional Lutheran.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Also FSSP

SSPX aren’t Catholic

@SamanthaM I don't have any experience with them, I just hear about them on Fatherland and Godcast 😑

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_Fraternity_of_Saint_Peter

@SamanthaM Thanks, I'll read up on them.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN. Normal Catholic works too and there are a lot more.

But my recommendation to meet people outside of church is to take night classes

I'm partial, of course, since I met my wife at one

What does Trad mean to you guys?

Barefoot and pregnant

That’s it?

oh and IN THE KITCHEN

I was mostly using it in the memtic sense.

okay shitposts aside

I think you mean “hobbled” and pregnant.

Well, I’m asking seriously.

Trad is an odd word that holds many connotations

At this point: not pozzed, not coalburned, wants kids and willing to take second-in-command when needed is good enough for me.

Although a good husband recognizes when his wife does know more.

What I generally mean when I use "Trad" is: Things that are generally tradition, but not explicitly, good for society essentially.

Sometimes I think a pro-white hippy would suit me more. But they seem even rarer.