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Thomas @thomas

@ND - Carter MO Wonderful reports. I gathered some useful information from these and I hope the others may as well.

Thomas @thomas

@all
:pushpin: NOTICE :pushpin:
:baby_symbol: :mega: March For Life Event Attendance and General Information :mega: :baby_symbol:
Our two March For Life events are coming up. Plans for these will be ongoing as they are largely responsive to the plans of the marchers there. The aim is to be more understated, friendly, in smaller groups, and get as many flyers out as possible. Other more regimented options are on the table as well.

The dates/times are:
M4L Chicago: Sat, Jan 8, 1 p.m.
M4L DC: Fri, Jan 21, 1 p.m.

As for travel planning, plan to have the day on either side of the event itself made available. If there are some issues with that, it may be alright. We will evaluate the options of having centralized camp/lodging versus all showing up the morning-of. A decision on that will be made shortly.

See the large red and blue highlighted quadrants of the above map. The area highlighted in red is to be compelled to go to the event in Chicago. The area in blue is the same for Washington. The NW's/members in both are going to do their best to attend one, both, either. This can be coordinated among the members themselves. Especially in Washington, we will be implementing and prototyping a number of new and improved security practices so ensure, beyond any doubt, that our members and their property will be safe.

Start collecting your head counts now. I will be forming tight circles of planning for these two events to aid in my work, you will be enlisted for such matters soon if you will be occupying a special role. Ask any questions you may have now.

Thomas @thomas
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Thomas @thomas

@Alan MI You are being added to this channel for your role as a prospective Director. This recognition is not certain, and I reserve my right to revoke or reconsider at any time. You are in this channel to aid in your improvement and coordination with other Directors.

Review the information above, and you should speak to two of our newest Directors ( @ND - James TX and @ND - Christopher AL ) on the subject of creating a personal list of three primary objectives to be fit for the position, as well as a short, medium, and long term set of objectives for the proposed NW in Michigan. Carter can also be of some help in this.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Alan MI @PF-626733

@Thomas Understood.

Thomas @thomas

@all Everyone read and respond to the above Notice.

Welcome @Alan MI

If you have any questions on being the best leader you can possibly be, any one of us would be happy to help.

Alan MI @PF-626733

@ND - John WA thank you brother. I have already made a point to speak with several of the network directors in here including yourself, and i have worked to implement the advice given to me. Later tonight i will try to speak with those i haven't gotten to know yet and to come up with concrete goals for myself and my cluster as a result of those conversations. As many of you know my main point of self improvement is weight loss right now. My goal is to lose another 20 pounds by the spring time, and using all of you as inspirations will only strengthen my resolve in reaching that objective.

The best advice you could probably get, is to study the guides very closely, and fulfill the exemplar and leadership principles. Once you have that locked down start making weekly meetups a normal thing, implement a spreadsheet which tracks weekly activism, (I can help you make one) and really get to know your men. Yes we are an activist org, but knowing everyone on a personal level is still some of the best security you can implement.

Also @ND - Samuel VA has made a document on all necessary things you need done to build a network such as necessary materials for a poster bag, etc. I would get that from him. Will save you many questions.

Alan MI @PF-626733

@ND - John WA if you could send me a template for that spreadsheet or talk to me about it sometime in mumble i would really appreciate that. Ive been tracking activism and self improvement at each weekly cluster meeting for about 5 months now, but i haven't properly formalized it into a spreadsheet. I have @ND - Samuel VA 's document, and i have read it through. I will reread it, and i remember you mentioned to me to be more of a "guide pusher" around a month ago in mumble. I have proactively sought to do that, and i have notified my guys that i will be doing so.

@Thomas I was added a "Antifa Research" chat on Threema where several dozen people of varying relation were all in the same space. The chat became unproductive shortly after its inception, but Carl CA saw my pfp (org logo) and asked for login information. When Vincent told me that we had just deleted his account for being a suspect, I figured I had to have him removed from other spaces too

Thomas @thomas

We temporarily deactivated his account under suspicions that passed. You should not distribute internal information.

Understood, it won't happen again.

ND - Carter MO @PF-982856

Welcome @Alan MI it's very exciting to see you inching closer to accomplishing your goals. We've talked quite alot in the past few months and even worked together on the successful Michigan hike. Your men have grown close with some of those in #nw_12 including @Eric MI when placed on our shield team.

There is no doubt in my mind this position will be secured by your undying loyalty to the organization. Good luck brother.

ND - Carter MO @PF-982856

@Thomas I'm giving my word to attend the MFL in Chicago. Rallying the entire Mid-West will temporarily replace all other projects. Ready to get back out into the public sphere after my absence in DC.

Alan MI @PF-626733

@ND - Carter MO Thank you for the kind words brother. You have been a mentor and inspiration to me. I was ecstatic when I learned how ambitious your plans for the Midwest as a whole are, and I look forward to working with you in turning the heartland into a powerhouse of activism and brotherhood.

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

@all
I want to return to the subject of a toy drive for Ulysses’ brother. Sam VA has given me gift ideas, and I would like to compile a list. Each network can commit to one item off the list. Is this agreeable?

Yes @ND - Eric PA this is the best way to do it

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

Sam we still need to discuss how the family will get these gifts, I have no contact with them. But that can be sorted after

Alan MI @PF-626733

Michigan should be able to contribute to this as well.

Aye. Just let us know what gifts you guys have in mind.

ND - Jon UT @PF-3354

I think one awesome gift from each network would be sufficient

Just give me an address to ship to

How old is he?

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

I didn’t elaborate my bad. I’m just gonna post the list and get everything myself, you guys only need to send me the money for each gift. I have a cashapp for such purposes.

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

8 I believe

Thomas @thomas

@all

REMINDER: No one West of the Rockies is to speak, discuss, promote, or invite anyone to the upcoming actions in Chicago OR DC.

@ND - Jon UT If you would like to arrange for a tight-knit party to fly into NW1 and travel with us, maybe yourself and two others, then we can arrange that. Otherwise, no need to worry.

@ND - John WA You should spend this time working on working out internal issues, so no discussion, promotion, mentioning of anything related to these events. As far as the West Coast is concerned, the last thing we said or planned about them was that big nationwide meeting. Copy?

Copy. Anyone who asks about the event I’ll tell them we aren’t attending. Regional events only.

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

They wouldn’t know anyways, if other networks maintain appropriate opsec

Well Thomas announced it at the meeting

So they’ve been asking me about it

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

Oh right lol

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

Forgot

ND - Jon UT @PF-3354

@Thomas what do you think of the western networks doing one in either CO, UT, or WA?

Thomas @thomas

We have strong reason to believe if there is a remaining security breach, it is in those NW's or adjacent to them, so any event could be compromised, and we have lesser experience with M4L event in those states/cities, and less men to ensure safety.

Honestly I don’t really feel like ding an event here in a couple weeks anyways. Most of us on the west coast spent a lot of money on this last event. Perhaps in a couple months that could be teased.

We do however have a Christmas get together coming up.

Which, after recent events, will be great for morale. I’m getting the network a bunch of presents, we will be playing white elephant, enjoying food cooked by our women, and enjoying good time together.

Thomas @thomas

Perhaps some one-on-one workshops on the infosec guide would help, John. Could even have a tech guy on voice to give advice on whether or not Facebook accounts should be deleted.

I have already contacted everyone one on one, and made them go over the infosec guide. All members have deleted any social media and indeed/LinkedIn accounts, dating apps, and filled out joindeleteme, and have gotten new license plates. Our Christmas Day will be celebrated in good hearty fun. One reason Vincent was able to stick around as long as he did was because all we have done is activism. No sitting around having a toast s brothers, or going out and doing something fun. All work. Work work work. Big actions after big actions. He followed all the guides to a tee, and never had to be typed at. The perfect yes man. Had we actually sat down and perhaps, spent time together as brothers it would have been obvious this guy seems out of place. I advise all networks here do your best to know all your men on a personal level. Their background, interests, and stories. Work is good, but boosting morale and getting together is just as important.

ND - Jon UT @PF-3354

Here Here

Thomas @thomas

You should actively avoid having members know each other's places of work, addresses, real names, and any such similar information.

Hikes, drilling, fitness, literature seminars, and the like can all include social aspects. People can be social, but they have to protect themselves.

ND - Jon UT @PF-3354

I disagree. There is a reason my network has never been infiltrated and never will be. Because my men are my family

Thomas @thomas

The Information Security Guide as of your joining, the joining of every single one of NW5's members, your appointment as Director, and so on, agrees with me.

Sect. II, Point 1:
"You should actively prohibit yourself from learning the "real" identities of other members, no matter how long you have worked with them, or how well you know them."

Thomas @thomas

As well, in Director Roles, it states:
The Network Director is responsible for all Network Members being educated on the documentation that concerns them.

@Thomas it appears the victory site - home of our sacred and holy guides - is down

Alan MI @PF-626733

@ND - Samuel VA Can confirm it appears to be down for myself as well.

Thomas @thomas

@Alan MI @ND - Samuel VA Correct. Updates and repairs.

Thomas @thomas

Tech Team has been buzzing like a swarm of angry North Carolina wasps fixing any vulnerabilities in our systems.

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

They deserve our gratitude

Thomas @thomas
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Thomas @thomas

Share this in y'all's channels. It's a morale boost.

Alan MI @PF-626733

@Thomas wonder where you got that idea :smirk: :thinking: :brain:

Thomas @thomas

The idea to make a graphic out of the new shields?

Alan MI @PF-626733

No the idea of having everyone share it in their respective network channels.

Alan MI @PF-626733

I'm kidding because I did it a bit ago.

Thomas @thomas

Well my SoC updates haven't been posted in the #socialmedia channel so I had to remind them, and while I was at it, I figured I'd help out here. Since I spent a pretty good amount of time on that today.

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

It’s good

Alan MI @PF-626733

I like it a lot.

Thomas @thomas
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Thomas @thomas

New promat edit in the works too.

KEEP AMERICA AMERICAN!!!!

Bring that back^

Alan MI @PF-626733

That would look good on an updated "FOR THE NATION AGAINST THE STATE" sticker.

Thomas @thomas
  1. That's FTNATS
    2. I don't do requests.
Alan MI @PF-626733

Hey, I called it :sunglasses:

It was a suggestion

I think normalizing the idea that America is for Americans and what makes an American is a great idea. I feel like aside from our manifesto we don’t have much racially charged propoganda. Normalizing how America is supposed to be American and we need to keep it that way is a good start. I really liked the design of “Keep America American” because of this. Without the ICE bit of course.

Thomas @thomas
  1. I don't do requests.

Go eat some boiled chicken

Lol

Thomas @thomas

I have all the helpers I need in the photo editing channel. These were simply updates to be given to you guys out of nicety. Not meant to kickstart any forums on ideas.

Alan MI @PF-626733

So what you're saying is that if I want to influence sticker designs I just need to tell @Benjamin MI what changes I want made. How interesting :thinking:

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Thomas @thomas

Keep the use of the channel more professional in general. This should be the highest echelon of conduct.

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

The new “for the Nation” 😳??

ND - Eric PA @PF-950806

Oh yup just saw it

Alan MI @PF-626733

Autonomy
1. @Eric MI and @Benjamin MI are slated to be my scribe and quartermaster respectively. I have incrementally exposed them to greater depths of leadership and responsibility in preparation for their appointments. @Sam MI and @Johnny MI both serve as physical fitness advisors, and @Sam MI shows leadership promise.

Retention
2. I check three boxes off for retention: immediate involvement in group activism, giving off the impression that they are part of a serious organization and not just a club, and cultivating as well as maintaining a personal relationship with each member of my cluster.

Cooperation
3. @ND - Ryan OH and I are planning a joint network Toledo War memorial event, I am actively communicating with the Indiana cluster to assist them with growth, and I will maintain my close relationship with @ND - Carter MO as we coordinate future actions in the Midwest.
@Thomas

You live with other members lol. It's gonna happen from time to time, especially as bonds deepen.

"Be careful of who you trust"
-Felix WA
Ironically enough, now he's a traitor.

Felix was absolutely right. Simply thinking someone is solid because they did activism and listen well, was stupid. “If multiple members have a gut feeling about someone they’re probably right” -Lawrence WA

It's going to happen the larger this org gets. We're going to be spending a lot of time with each other, people are going to pick up things here and there. We're not just machines that boot up and do activism and then return home. We talk, we socialize, we grow together, otherwise none of us would have the kind of trust we've built over this orgs existence. I'm in full agreement with @ND - John WA after catching up on everything.

Thomas @thomas

@ND - Ryan OH I don't know Michael's place of work and wouldn't know the others if it wasn't listed on their work shirts. In some cases it is avoidable, but the general standard of "bonds deepening" in NW8 was people unnecessarily sharing information and materials which has now resulted in more doxes than in the last year and a half combined.

Thomas @thomas

Someone's address is not their "true identity". The name of their workplace or the phone number of their cell or employer is not how you know or trust someone. I don't have or use the phone numbers of anyone aside from my mother and father. I don't have the addresses of any members of NW1 aside from those who share mine. I don't know where they work, either, but I have better metrics for trust.

Thomas @thomas

@ND - John WA "Gut feelings" can, and often are, based on paranoia and useless emotional speculation. If we planned around them then the organization would have ceased to exist before you ever heard about it. It's your job to find substance and decide on reality, not to recycle the talking points of disgusting

Thomas @thomas

Our methods are built around our ability to attain trust without having the info on someone's driver's license in your camera roll.

I never stated or agreed with needed to have someone's address or phone numbers for trust @Thomas that's obviously not what I said at all.

Thomas @thomas

I was questioned for a total of 16 hours by a panel of vicious Jewish attorneys for the Cville suit. Not as a defendant, but if they had proof of me lying they could attempt to get me for contempt of court and jail me for months like they did with Kline, and take who knows how much of my property.

Hundreds of their questions related specifically to naming and identifying others. Not on the basis of my working with them or trust, but exclusively their names, places of residence, and so on. I was and am lucky to know nearly none of what about who they asked for. That may be unlikely to happen to any of you, and I can't really convey how awful that experience was, but the precedent is set and I can't look at recent events and current standards in the light of all that and not say that we should stick to it.

Unless you need it, like the Need To Know Principle states, you should not have this info on anyone. Even if you have it, you should not keep it. Even if you keep it, you should not share it.

Thomas @thomas

Are we all in agreement on that final principle?

Alan MI @PF-626733

Yes.

I trust people based on their actions, not their name or profession.

No. If you get a bad vibe from someone it’s worth looking into.

@Thomas Agreed. Additionally, you can build cohesion and camaraderie without knowing the personal details of someone.

There is no sense in paranoia, there are guides to follow. Follow the guides and take a deep breath.

You can tell if someone is bad news without personal info.

Those people shouldn’t be accepted then

Sometimes people get accepted and later on they start being sus.

As r

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