Drywa11

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2019-07-11 20:12:02 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

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2019-07-12 05:21:11 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Two people cannot control the same item at the same time

2019-07-12 05:22:49 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It’s a one time deal also

2019-07-12 05:24:33 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Also there’s the matter of investment versus consumption spending. The rich would invest more than poor people with the Rich’s resources.

2019-07-12 05:26:41 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Depends on what you mean by collective ownership

2019-07-12 05:30:50 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Not really

2019-07-12 05:31:34 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It’s more the anarchists that are strictly egalitarian.

2019-07-12 05:32:34 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Ie if I had cancer a doctor would give me treatment because the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth has been established

2019-07-12 05:34:17 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Commies believe that moral faults will fade away when capitalism is abolished. Society is then supposed to be purely altruistic.

2019-07-12 05:34:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Not necessarily equal.

2019-07-12 05:36:17 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Sadly, yes

2019-07-12 05:38:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762957257703438/599112303987916810/image0.jpg

2019-07-12 05:38:56 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Constructivism is bad mkay

2019-07-12 05:39:28 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Yeah that dna differences and such don’t exist

2019-07-12 05:39:42 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

That everything is a product of society

2019-07-12 05:41:11 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It becomes complicated when it comes to human action in general though. Like how much of a person beliefs are their own or how much come from parents, schools and such.

2019-07-12 05:42:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Have any of y’all taken this one yet?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762957257703438/599113314475311104/image0.jpg

2019-07-12 05:44:43 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Here’s the philosophical one

2019-07-12 05:46:08 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

I think it’s talking about moral nihilism vs clearly defined morals

2019-07-12 05:47:49 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Idk exactly, high on nihilism, high on skepticism, high on rationalism?

2019-07-12 05:48:17 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762957257703438/599114784243449856/image0.jpg

2019-07-12 05:49:56 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

There’s a lot of third options you could take that are neither communist/capitalist

2019-07-12 05:50:39 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

What’d the test say on the bottom?

2019-07-12 05:51:05 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Is it close?

2019-07-12 05:56:02 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Only if you think too much

2019-07-12 06:00:57 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

No point to it really

2019-07-12 06:01:11 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Getting worked up isn’t productive

2019-07-12 06:02:00 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

gives other people massive amounts of power over you, if they can change your state of mind easily

2019-07-12 06:03:58 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Well if it works, it works

2019-07-12 06:07:35 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Just don’t put too much of your faith in politicians.

2019-07-12 06:09:48 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Not necessarily. I’m assuming you’re not a total hermit, you seek to the choice of being able to be left alone. Probably not to be left alone all of the time.

2019-07-12 06:10:48 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It’s not a bad gig.

2019-07-12 06:14:09 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Only the VA

2019-07-12 06:14:19 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

And I think it’s better now

2019-07-12 06:14:49 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

If your retire in the military the benefits are very good

2019-07-12 06:16:01 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Job positions really narrow

2019-07-12 06:16:13 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

And if you don’t promote you get discharged

2019-07-13 05:16:58 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

No thanks

2019-07-13 20:58:13 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Please don’t speak on behalf of the “white race” until you can spell properly. The irony of someone claiming that IQ is being diminished in a post full of grammatical and spelling errors is too much. Even if you’re not an English speaker, it is still bad optics.

2019-07-15 20:51:34 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It’s been that way even before FDR

2019-07-16 01:00:06 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

If you deal in smaller transactions you’re going to have to charge a higher than normal interest rate just to break even. This is why payday loans have high interest rates. Capping this would just cut off credit from those who believe themselves to be better off with it.

2019-07-16 08:38:50 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Ehh, it’s a pretty poor argument that’s just red meat for the base. It’d be like King George the Third telling Thomas Jefferson that he should leave if he doesn’t like how things are running (not saying those Trump named are comparable to Jefferson).

2019-07-16 08:39:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

The tweets did trigger libs though, so that’s nice.

2019-07-17 00:40:33 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

If my memory of history is correct, things didn’t exactly end well for Cromwell, so I hope not.

2019-07-17 23:39:28 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

He’s playing them like a fiddle

2019-07-18 20:33:28 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Aloha snackbar

2019-07-19 19:07:58 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Given the original left-right divide originally referred to the actual seating arrangement in the French parliament in the 19th century, liberals were originally on the left.

2019-07-19 19:14:52 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Ehh, only if you were to kill everyone that’s already on that land. It’s not like the Ottoman, Roman and Austrian empires became filled solely with Latins, Turks and Germans. Hell Hitler bitched about how the Germans in Austria were becoming more and more of a minority despite them supposedly controlling the whole country.

2019-07-19 19:18:13 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It’d be debatable and reduce the gains from conquering it in the first place. There’s a reason Poland and Western Russia aren’t densely populated to begin with.

2019-07-19 19:23:32 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

If you have a nation of farmers perhaps, but in an industrial economy it would be more constrained by earnings.

2019-07-19 21:35:35 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Well they have no problem with bomb making, so I doubt they’d have a problem with the creation of other weapons.

2019-07-20 01:49:43 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Part of being a politician is being incompetent. To expect more of them is akin to expecting a chicken to soar like an eagle.

2019-07-23 01:16:21 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Wtf

2019-07-24 14:43:27 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

And totalitarianism.

2019-07-24 14:45:33 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

If you’re going to do a world revolution in which you forcefully wean everyone off of private property and forcefully “re-educate” dissenters you’re a totalitarian. Even if afterward you want a free society.

2019-07-24 14:47:00 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

The system is all encompassing. No dissent is allowed. The ideology requires all of the population to follow it exclusively.

2019-07-24 14:48:00 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

That being said not all ancoms are totalitarian, but the Antifa types are.

2019-07-24 14:51:50 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Is there a difference between the gestapo shooting you because you’re a political opponent and some communist militia shooting you as a political opponent. Regardless of what the ultimate goal is, some ancoms are prepared to use extreme levels of violence to forcefully convert everyone to communism.

2019-07-24 14:53:06 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

For believing in a different economic/political system. Hence my use of “political opponents”.

2019-07-24 14:58:47 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Only after the revolution phase and the system has been enforced, before that a communist revolution would function like a state. It might be a chaotic state, but it’s still would be a state at this stage.

2019-07-24 15:04:10 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Monopoly of violence sense. One organization would have a monopoly on punishment for criminals and how they’re defined and military affairs in their territory. Even if communist groups organized into a loose confederation it would still be considered a state or multiple states at this point.

2019-07-25 23:15:51 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Right wing populism is one helluva drug

2019-07-26 21:08:18 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Just remember kids, real capitalism has never been tried before.

2019-07-26 21:16:39 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Like what?

2019-07-27 15:27:43 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Well the republicans are probably going to shift to the left in the future and be where the democrats are now in about 10-20 years.

2019-07-27 15:28:13 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Pretty much

2019-07-28 19:13:22 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Not very convincing imo

2019-08-04 05:08:02 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

The “English are immune to Nazism” part of the video reminded me of a part in *The Road to Serfdom* where Hayek made the exact opposite point, but I guess he was a treacherous German so we can immediately disregard anything he said.

2019-08-04 20:41:24 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

Did you just assume their gender? What a bigot

2019-08-04 21:00:17 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

All humans do things for profit of some sort. Charity isn’t an exception. Regardless of whether giving away time or resources simply makes you feel good, have a better image or pleases a worshipped deity, you always attempt to get something out of it greater than what you give. Even if the desired profit is psychic instead of physical, profit seeking is present in every human action.

2019-08-05 15:02:55 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

If there’s only one Reich then there’s no need for borders

2019-08-05 15:43:11 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

America is not diverse enough, only through world conquest can we reach peak diversity.

2019-08-06 19:50:39 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762957257703438/608386464916570114/image0.jpg

2019-08-23 06:50:28 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Which ones?

2019-08-23 06:54:04 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

I though he only started opposing open borders

2019-08-23 06:55:17 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

True

2019-08-23 07:04:33 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

I don’t know enough about propertarianism to critique it. The Wikipedia page on it isn’t very detailed, but it doesn’t look objectionable.

2019-08-28 05:30:24 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Most alt-right types are highly critical of capitalism and are all for welfare, provided its for the white man. Full blown socialism (in the sense of a totally centrally planned economy) probably isn’t as popular, but this is just the impression I’ve gotten from interactions with them so I can’t say for sure. They probably would support a socialist ethnostate. “True” communism is supposed to be stateless and the beliefs of most communists makes communism and ethnocentrism, as well as traditionalism, of any sort mostly incompatible. I doubt a sizable portion of the alt right would ever join them. It’s not exactly a unified movement though, so who knows.

2019-08-29 05:23:26 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

How do y’all feel about this?

2019-08-29 22:23:48 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Can it happen to Germany instead?

2019-08-31 05:58:33 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

The fact that we can’t tell one way or the other is still depressing.

2019-09-01 18:39:53 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613770471938195467/617790744282792010/image0.jpg

2019-09-07 14:12:00 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

The only rights that should be enforced are property rights.

2019-09-07 14:15:09 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

I guess political rights also, if you have a government to defend property rights.

2019-09-14 16:59:30 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

They’re an ethnic group that was part of the coalition that overthrew Yemen’s last American backed strongman. Now they’re being opposed in Yemen by Saudi backed forces and some of the other gulf states.

2019-09-14 17:32:27 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Should be a theory channel

2019-09-14 17:34:34 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

If every other channel starts with a region/country then one would assume the “other” channel would be about the areas not covered.

2019-09-14 17:35:13 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Europe probably

2019-09-28 20:07:41 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

I look forward to the total meltdown when he wins again.

2019-09-28 20:25:24 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Wut

2019-09-28 20:36:54 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Pieces of paper can’t act

2019-09-28 20:44:08 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Who enforces that? Another group of elected/appointed officials?

2019-09-28 20:48:27 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

If public opinion is the only thing ultimately protecting against tyranny, then wouldn’t it be easier to limit a firm/individual than a government that is given the legitimacy to do things others aren’t allowed to?

2019-09-28 20:50:50 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Wouldn’t ten agencies doing a governments work be easier to limit by the populace than one agency doing it all?

2019-10-17 19:06:47 UTC [Athens #palaestra_debates]  

^

2019-10-21 18:17:59 UTC [Athens #us_politics]  

Then it is the goal. You’re taking wealth from some and giving to others.

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