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2019-10-16 10:05:13 UTC

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2019-10-16 10:09:50 UTC

I Joe

2019-10-16 11:47:49 UTC

got to get them debates early

2019-10-16 12:33:01 UTC

eyy lmao

2019-10-16 12:43:22 UTC

<:trumpepe:588019356215279642>

2019-10-16 13:10:02 UTC

I blame discordia

2019-10-16 13:16:04 UTC

Dr. Theodore John Kaczynski: Industrial Society & Its Future

2019-10-16 13:16:11 UTC

Audiobook read by Augustus Sol Invictus

2019-10-16 20:15:08 UTC
2019-10-16 20:15:19 UTC

Sorry Amerindians

2019-10-16 20:15:27 UTC

We won

funny how they hate people expanding in other peoples territory

but they support illegal immigrants

they support china holding tibet and HK and wherever else

wonder if they support the white killing in south africa too

also why is europe taking in muslims and africans

its our land

also, all countries ever formed warred and eliminated a people from their own place

countries werent just these static zones predetermined by god

someone beat someone else

unless we want to say no borders anywhere

in which case, whats the problems with white people taking over america

oh no wait, thats logic, thats patriarchal, therefore fuck it

2019-10-17 03:34:54 UTC

@Snake yooo another nicker

2019-10-17 03:35:12 UTC

my nicka

2019-10-17 05:49:37 UTC

FACEandLMS vs Sargon of Akkad (Carl Benjamin). On the Incel issue and Black Pill Ideology.

2019-10-17 06:19:45 UTC

Okay, so what the hell is this channel for

2019-10-17 06:22:33 UTC

"This channel is our general debate room, and has a 15 second slow mode to encourage more thought out replies and statements. The Palaestra was where one would learn the art of boxing and wrestling"

2019-10-17 06:23:08 UTC

So people come here when the temple is too busy

2019-10-17 06:23:09 UTC

gotya

2019-10-17 07:40:26 UTC

@Boop / ๋ธŒํŒŒ / C'thUwU no borders mean no sovereign Injun land

thats funny

'give them back their stolen land!'

'allow in everyone from other places!'

2019-10-17 09:40:00 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/634324725258125336/unknown.png

2019-10-17 10:09:39 UTC

I recently came across an argument that Trump might lose 2020 elections due to the above

2019-10-17 10:10:34 UTC

This gives Florida's 1.4 million felons voting rights, majority of whom are Blacks and Hispanics, and Trump won Florida only by a margin of 150,000 votes

2019-10-17 10:13:33 UTC

Florida accounts for 29 electoral votes, which could bring Trump's tally significantly down to the danger zone

2019-10-17 10:50:21 UTC

The analysis is from this guy

2019-10-17 11:49:56 UTC

Just nuke Florida. Nothing of value will be lost in the process.

2019-10-17 14:53:58 UTC

> Swedish Government wants to ban ancient Viking symbols, claiming they โ€œconstitute incitement to hatredโ€

2019-10-17 14:54:25 UTC

White people donโ€™t have culture, we banned it

2019-10-17 14:55:43 UTC

But seriously how can you ban a emblem I can literally draw it

2019-10-17 14:57:39 UTC

This is the end result of battering a people constantly with indoctrination telling them to lose their identity and culture in order to either atomize as deracinated and cucked hyper individuals or only identify with abstract ideals devoid of ancestral heritage

2019-10-17 14:58:57 UTC

I mean yeah you can do that and all but people hate being a atomized individual, they end up looking at their ancestors out of interest

2019-10-17 14:59:05 UTC

Maybe itโ€™s a subconscious thing idk

2019-10-17 14:59:31 UTC

But people start looking at history and end up identifying with their home nation

2019-10-17 15:00:02 UTC

Sometimes they donโ€™t but theyโ€™ll end up knowing a lot about their own country

2019-10-17 15:00:19 UTC

Like even the communist three arrows knows a lot about his own country

2019-10-17 15:00:46 UTC

Hating your own country like that though has to suck balls mentally

2019-10-17 15:01:04 UTC

Of course, because it is the normative and healthy order

2019-10-17 15:01:10 UTC

Yep

2019-10-17 15:01:23 UTC

But the hard left types hate their own country

2019-10-17 15:01:32 UTC

Like I canโ€™t imagine that being fun

2019-10-17 15:01:54 UTC

โ€œIโ€™m born from a nation that sucks dickโ€

2019-10-17 15:02:05 UTC

โ€œEverything is evil from my own nation and peopleโ€

2019-10-17 15:02:15 UTC

Well what does that say about you then?

2019-10-17 15:02:21 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/634405846842867731/15713108897961.png

2019-10-17 15:02:29 UTC

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-10-17 15:03:15 UTC

But seriously I wonder if deep inside them, do they really care about the out groups to their own?

2019-10-17 15:03:37 UTC

I honestly donโ€™t think so, maybe thatโ€™s why theyโ€™re always mad

2019-10-17 15:04:04 UTC

But ideologically they just use the anger against their enemies

2019-10-17 15:04:13 UTC

Iโ€™m not a psychologist

2019-10-17 15:04:20 UTC

Iโ€™m just guessing but

2019-10-17 15:04:23 UTC

Makes sense to me

2019-10-17 15:04:36 UTC

There was a research on this

2019-10-17 15:04:47 UTC

Alt Hype made a video on it some time ago

2019-10-17 15:05:10 UTC

Basically, you take the trolly problem and add a racial element to it

2019-10-17 15:05:25 UTC

Will you save 100 white people or 1 black guy Tyrone

2019-10-17 15:05:45 UTC

Leftists and Liberals ended up saving Tyrone more often than not

2019-10-17 15:06:02 UTC

A phenomena known as Xenophilia

2019-10-17 15:07:31 UTC

This is the paper

2019-10-17 15:08:13 UTC

Yeah I remember that video, theyโ€™re biased towards other races

2019-10-17 15:08:46 UTC

See but I canโ€™t really wrap my head around that, why would you prefer people different from you?

2019-10-17 15:09:11 UTC

You could ask the reverse I guess, but obviously you would prefer yourself right?

2019-10-17 15:09:18 UTC

Yup, these are the civilization destroying left neurotypic people

2019-10-17 15:09:24 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/634407618302967808/unknown.png

2019-10-17 15:09:30 UTC

Or if you were in a fist fight, do you hope the other guy wins?

2019-10-17 15:09:46 UTC

No thatโ€™s just retarded

2019-10-17 15:10:00 UTC

Yeah white liberals are weird

2019-10-17 15:10:17 UTC

They live and mate with other white liberals but have a out group bias

2019-10-17 15:10:22 UTC

2:38 A little segway to Eco Fascism

2019-10-17 15:10:31 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/634407891742490645/image0.jpg

2019-10-17 15:10:43 UTC

Yeah I kinda rewatched it

2019-10-17 15:11:10 UTC

So they live in white neighborhoods and have sex with white people but they also hate white people

2019-10-17 15:11:14 UTC

>Prohibiting the free movement of people is the most important thing you could do to protect the environment

2019-10-17 15:11:17 UTC

Based af

2019-10-17 15:11:18 UTC

Wtf is this behavior?

2019-10-17 15:13:00 UTC

Anyway to bring this full circle they want to ban emblems of their own heritage

2019-10-17 15:13:15 UTC

Yes letโ€™s ban emblems of our people

2019-10-17 15:13:33 UTC

Though I can understand that because theyโ€™ll tell me the alt right co opted it

2019-10-17 15:14:01 UTC

But to just give up on those emblems like that is a little shitty

2019-10-17 15:14:34 UTC

If you cared about them even as a left winger wouldnโ€™t you try to take them over and use it for your own group somehow?

2019-10-17 15:15:01 UTC

It is still a emblem of your people, you could just use it differently than the far right

2019-10-17 15:15:18 UTC

That way people would know youโ€™re a communist and Swedish

2019-10-17 15:15:30 UTC

But again communists are internationalists so

2019-10-17 15:15:37 UTC

I donโ€™t even know what to say to that

2019-10-17 15:27:02 UTC

*Internalized race treason*
This is a thing now

2019-10-17 15:37:36 UTC

Lmao thatโ€™s one hell of a way to put it

2019-10-17 15:37:47 UTC

I guess if you wanted to go that route you could

2019-10-17 15:38:21 UTC

Thatโ€™s another thing, white people preferring white people is like black people preferring black people

2019-10-17 15:38:52 UTC

No point in trying to stop that, or even why would you try to? Someone has a preference you donโ€™t like?

2019-10-17 15:42:15 UTC

I mean

2019-10-17 15:42:20 UTC

One thing's for sure

2019-10-17 15:42:36 UTC

If there's a race war whites against blacks, the liberal cucks die first

2019-10-17 15:44:34 UTC

It's actually pretty astonishing what a bit of consistent brainwashing can do to peopl

2019-10-17 15:45:03 UTC

Thatโ€™s going to be bad if there were one

2019-10-17 15:45:18 UTC

The liberals would be completely on their own

2019-10-17 15:45:35 UTC

Cuz I donโ€™t think the WN would help them, probably just shoot them

2019-10-17 15:45:53 UTC

Then the BLM types in a race war would just shoot them

2019-10-17 15:46:00 UTC

Yeah, they can't be trusted to fight alongside

2019-10-17 15:46:06 UTC

Anyone

2019-10-17 15:46:24 UTC

Theyโ€™d be the quickest demographic to die off

2019-10-17 15:46:46 UTC

Conservative libertarian types would only side with WN because theyโ€™re white and not black

2019-10-17 15:46:51 UTC

Remember this is a race war

2019-10-17 15:47:04 UTC

They couldnโ€™t really side with the BLM or La Raza guys

2019-10-17 15:47:49 UTC

I could imagine some black conservatives fighting alongside a white nationalists not because they like each other but because heโ€™s against racial conflict in general

2019-10-17 15:47:56 UTC

White libertarians would have a choice between siding with WN or getting shot by blacks, so they'd side with WN

2019-10-17 15:48:04 UTC

Cause principles go overboard in such a situation

2019-10-17 15:48:44 UTC

But liberals would probably just get robbed by WN's and detained

2019-10-17 15:48:53 UTC

Sent to camps while the fighting continues

2019-10-17 15:48:58 UTC

Basically

2019-10-17 15:49:07 UTC

I mean I wouldnโ€™t trust Antifa types at all

2019-10-17 15:49:30 UTC

Yeah black conservatives would be in a very tricky spot

2019-10-17 15:49:35 UTC

Good point about black conservatives btw

2019-10-17 15:49:47 UTC

Thatโ€™s probably were you would get some weird shit lmao

2019-10-17 15:50:07 UTC

Of course the BLM guys would screech race traitor

2019-10-17 15:50:11 UTC

The hardcore WN's wouldn't trust them and send them to camps

2019-10-17 15:50:44 UTC

Well like I said, the WNโ€™s would have to form a coalition with conservatives and libertarians and classical liberals

2019-10-17 15:51:01 UTC

The BLM would have to side with La Raza and Muslims

2019-10-17 15:51:06 UTC

Sooo basically

2019-10-17 15:51:18 UTC

This means this race war can only be won through mass immigration

2019-10-17 15:51:22 UTC

Won by blacks

2019-10-17 15:51:31 UTC

Blacks would lose either way

2019-10-17 15:51:36 UTC

Theyโ€™re only 13%

2019-10-17 15:51:49 UTC

Hispanics wonโ€™t be nice to them thatโ€™s for fucking sure lmao

2019-10-17 15:52:19 UTC

Hispanics would probably try to flee cause they don't wanna shoot blacks, no clue what the rest would do

2019-10-17 15:52:38 UTC

A lot of people would flee on all sides

2019-10-17 15:52:51 UTC

Especially Hispanics because they came here for free shit

2019-10-17 15:53:04 UTC

In the first place

2019-10-17 15:53:11 UTC

Not really to become a hero

2019-10-17 15:53:36 UTC

Though I could see the Mexican government stepping in

2019-10-17 15:53:46 UTC

They have a legitimate case to defend their people

2019-10-17 15:54:09 UTC

And that would be a point to land grab California but no one is going to cry over that

2019-10-17 15:54:22 UTC

Right, I just looked up the ethnic trend in the US

2019-10-17 15:54:29 UTC

Still not looking great for blacks

2019-10-17 15:54:37 UTC

Hispanics are the number one rising group

2019-10-17 15:55:10 UTC

Hispanics have a lot going for them, Mexico would probably step in kinda like how turkey is in Syria right now

2019-10-17 15:55:25 UTC

Create a buffer zone to defend majority hispanic areas

2019-10-17 15:55:55 UTC

Canada would get dragged in, as Antifa would probably try to get some people from there

2019-10-17 15:56:13 UTC

Plus 50% of their population is on the American border so

2019-10-17 15:56:21 UTC

ha, AntiFa

2019-10-17 15:56:25 UTC

They aint fighting nothing

2019-10-17 15:56:42 UTC

We make fun of them but I wouldnโ€™t get too cocky

2019-10-17 15:56:56 UTC

You never want to underestimate these groups

2019-10-17 15:57:07 UTC

I donโ€™t think they would be a big player

2019-10-17 15:57:08 UTC

Ok I guess 5% of them might pose a serious threat

2019-10-17 15:57:21 UTC

320 million people in the USA

2019-10-17 15:57:30 UTC

5% is like 12.8 million

2019-10-17 15:57:37 UTC

I mean 5% of AntiFa

2019-10-17 15:57:44 UTC

Lmao

2019-10-17 15:57:55 UTC

Still 12 million isnโ€™t something to just scoff at

2019-10-17 15:58:01 UTC

How many of these kids have you seen actually fight someone without instantly running off?

2019-10-17 15:58:15 UTC

They're thousands

2019-10-17 15:58:38 UTC

And then we see images of a few dozen actually fighting, and only a handful staying to finish the fight

2019-10-17 15:59:03 UTC

There's the Socialist Rifles Association

2019-10-17 15:59:15 UTC

Don't know how big it is though

2019-10-17 15:59:47 UTC

Most millienals (how tf do you spell it?) are socialists

2019-10-17 15:59:57 UTC

Not gen z

2019-10-17 16:00:08 UTC

gen x?

2019-10-17 16:00:09 UTC

Weโ€™re mostly made up of conservatives

2019-10-17 16:00:11 UTC

Idk

2019-10-17 16:00:16 UTC

Their basically boomers

2019-10-17 16:01:04 UTC

7 or 9% of millennials are fascists

2019-10-17 16:01:18 UTC

wut lol honestly now?

2019-10-17 16:01:29 UTC

Deadass thatโ€™s what Iโ€™ve seen

2019-10-17 16:01:38 UTC

Vast vast majority are socialists

2019-10-17 16:01:43 UTC

Yeah no I mean

2019-10-17 16:01:51 UTC

Being socialist is a given for young people

2019-10-17 16:01:56 UTC

But you get this weird part thatโ€™s fascist

2019-10-17 16:02:06 UTC

Interesting

2019-10-17 16:02:14 UTC

Theyโ€™re small but they exist

2019-10-17 16:02:32 UTC

Oh right I forgot that's the US we're talking about

2019-10-17 16:03:21 UTC

In terms of vitality, millenials would be the most lethal generation right now, but they'd rather have a marxist revolution

2019-10-17 16:03:26 UTC

Race war not really

2019-10-17 16:03:49 UTC

Race war would be instigated by some dipshit in power

2019-10-17 16:04:04 UTC

Trying to get reparations

what country do you live that the majority of millenials vote for revolutionary socialists?๐Ÿ‘€

2019-10-17 16:04:22 UTC

America

2019-10-17 16:04:23 UTC

As much as people shit on boomers, they are the ones keeping the Republican party afloat

2019-10-17 16:04:31 UTC

Yep

2019-10-17 16:04:46 UTC

Yeah especially the disillusioned ones

2019-10-17 16:05:13 UTC

As time progresses and they die off, Texas will flip blue without even giving illegals the right to vote

2019-10-17 16:05:55 UTC

I love the visual representation of the generations

2019-10-17 16:06:28 UTC

one-note asexual worker; businessman; hippie; lazy kid

2019-10-17 16:07:01 UTC

Most of the generations are retarded

2019-10-17 16:07:09 UTC

Boomers, millennials and zoomers

2019-10-17 16:07:20 UTC

I mean the zoomers do some retarded shit to be honest

2019-10-17 16:07:28 UTC

Zoomer is gen z?

2019-10-17 16:07:33 UTC

Licking ice cream and putting it back, eating tide pods

2019-10-17 16:07:35 UTC

Yeah

2019-10-17 16:07:39 UTC

haha lol

2019-10-17 16:07:41 UTC

Gen z = zoomer

2019-10-17 16:07:50 UTC

I think they did that 100 years ago, too

2019-10-17 16:07:58 UTC

Just didn't have the equipment to film themselves

2019-10-17 16:08:20 UTC

Was more of a bro thing

2019-10-17 16:08:26 UTC

Their little cliques

2019-10-17 16:08:49 UTC

Fair enough but itโ€™s still very very autistic

2019-10-17 16:10:16 UTC

Anyway, there is a lot of socialists that would fight

2019-10-17 16:10:33 UTC

You would see conflict on racial, religious and ideological lines

2019-10-17 16:11:32 UTC

The biggest would be the racial line because ideology and religion only seems to be in one group, but even then communists blacks tend to be very very anti white

2019-10-17 16:12:16 UTC

It's weird that it's so hard to predict between which factions the next war is gonna break out

2019-10-17 16:13:02 UTC

Well there is a lot of factions, you just have to keep in mind their are trying to win power

2019-10-17 16:13:15 UTC

So theyโ€™ll work in their best interests

2019-10-17 16:13:25 UTC

Thatโ€™s why I think coalitions would form up

2019-10-17 16:13:44 UTC

Only if forced to do so

2019-10-17 16:14:06 UTC

The oppression pyramid is such a big thing right now

2019-10-17 16:14:27 UTC

That's the only reason why Trump has a realistic chance to win another election

2019-10-17 16:14:35 UTC

All that infighting

2019-10-17 16:15:13 UTC

Itโ€™s amazing how the left has managed its coalition

2019-10-17 16:15:23 UTC

Because itโ€™s so fucking unstable

2019-10-17 16:15:48 UTC

They think they have a real, common enemy

2019-10-17 16:16:06 UTC

You have to think, the Hispanics, Muslims, Jews, blacks and even inside and outside of the LGBTQ squad they all dislike each other on some level

2019-10-17 16:16:10 UTC

What do you think why that racism/WN rhetoric is popping up everywhere rn

2019-10-17 16:16:25 UTC

Because the media is pushing it for the next elections, to have a common enemy for the voters

2019-10-17 16:16:52 UTC

One one hand they have to demonize whites to keep the coalition going but on the other hand theyโ€™re making the devil they hate so much real

2019-10-17 16:17:06 UTC

So basically a dead end idea

2019-10-17 16:17:10 UTC

The LGBT even dislike one another

2019-10-17 16:17:14 UTC

Yep

2019-10-17 16:17:16 UTC

ContraPoints cancelled

2019-10-17 16:17:24 UTC

Bisexual implies two sexes

2019-10-17 16:17:36 UTC

Contrapoints is but a example

2019-10-17 16:17:42 UTC

Well...

2019-10-17 16:17:43 UTC

A big one

2019-10-17 16:17:57 UTC

If they can cancel that... dude, sorry not sorry, then they can cancel anyone

2019-10-17 16:18:15 UTC

Yeah

2019-10-17 16:18:37 UTC

What I'm worried about is that their tactics also work against libertarians/right-wingers

2019-10-17 16:18:42 UTC

And conservatives

2019-10-17 16:18:47 UTC

Like Milo for example

2019-10-17 16:19:11 UTC

They just use a slightly modified tactic, they let us eat ourselves

2019-10-17 16:19:27 UTC

Not sure if that's some level of self-awareness or idk

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