Message from @Drywa11
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Those two things cannot work together without a specific set of morals
Ethics
We simply maintain laws for basic things
Like murder, Theft, property rights
Besides that and other basic rules you can do what you want essentially
Do you mean fundamental?
Because "basic" implies to me it's simple
Fundamental then
Ok, so how do you do 2) then?
Just the basic rights you have, Right to life, Right to Property, Right to arms
Because the law must have 1)
Through the few laws
The Laws make sure that none of those rights can be broken
Wait
the problem with minimising the state to just the justice system in the modern era is automation.
If someone takes your property and infringes on your property rights you take them to court and potentially jail
The law would make sure that the law breaks none of those rights, sounds like an unanswerable system
The law could obviously break some of those rights temporality and only after a trial
Wait, no
The law can never break a right
If it's a right and the law breaks it, then it's not the law, it's illegitimate
Obviously if you kill someone and are arrested then your right to arms and liberty are temporarily forfeit
Ok, so you mean context
Laws must address the context of you having infringed on someone else's freedom
If someone commits a crime they are not allowed to just walk away in the name of freedom and liberty
Ok, right
They can obviously be detained and their freedom can be temporarily ended
And this is where the problem starts, because obviously it means that an investigation must happen before it can be determined who was in the right and who wasn't
And that investigation is the part that gets corrupted
There could of course be some problems in a justice system
But i think that it would be worth it for the sake of freedom and it can work on a basic level for resolving disputes between two sane parties
Uhm
That part would be for the sake of justice and order, not freedom
You obviously need some level of order infringing on freedom to maintain a functional society
Right
So who watches that?
Who watches those with the power to infringe on freedom?
Elected officials
But they're one and the same, aren't they?
I see your point