Message from @Drywa11

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2019-07-24 14:47:00 UTC  

The system is all encompassing. No dissent is allowed. The ideology requires all of the population to follow it exclusively.

2019-07-24 14:47:22 UTC  

Actions speak louder than words. If you say one thing, but act the opposite, then you're the opposite of what you say.

2019-07-24 14:47:51 UTC  

A liberal who acts authoritarian is an authoritarian

2019-07-24 14:47:56 UTC  

Therefore no longer a liberal

2019-07-24 14:48:00 UTC  

That being said not all ancoms are totalitarian, but the Antifa types are.

2019-07-24 14:48:12 UTC  

NoTrueLiberal

2019-07-24 14:48:39 UTC  

Tho, is it authoritarian if they are not the state?
Basically anarchism without the non agression principle
_you might as well say savagery at that point tho_

2019-07-24 14:48:57 UTC  

(Authoritarianism is a gay concept that is totally devoid of meaning. All political systems are an imposition, including Liberalism)

2019-07-24 14:49:05 UTC  

You can be a liberal with very few authoritarian beliefs and actions, but you can't be mostly authoritarian and still be called liberal

2019-07-24 14:50:29 UTC  

Germany: wanted to take the banks, and be free from it in their country.
War was escalating.
When germany lost, they put the banks back in, no more war.
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USA. and Britian.
Wanted to be free from britians control.
US won the war, and it started the bill of rights, and amendments.
No more war...
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70+ years later... The anti-facist are back as Antifa.

2019-07-24 14:50:34 UTC  

Liberals calling other ppl authoritarian are just blind to their own authoritarianism

2019-07-24 14:51:01 UTC  

Which is kinda scary

2019-07-24 14:51:02 UTC  

Wonder what happens next, because it isn't happening yet.

2019-07-24 14:51:08 UTC  

No, tonight, it's more like temperature, where 'hot' is relative but there are absolutes (zero/anarchy, planck/nearly hive mind levels of control)

2019-07-24 14:51:39 UTC  

You're free to call other systems bad, but calling them authoritarian specifically, is just wankery

2019-07-24 14:51:50 UTC  

Is there a difference between the gestapo shooting you because you’re a political opponent and some communist militia shooting you as a political opponent. Regardless of what the ultimate goal is, some ancoms are prepared to use extreme levels of violence to forcefully convert everyone to communism.

2019-07-24 14:52:07 UTC  

The reason for shooting you matters

2019-07-24 14:52:16 UTC  

And it's common knowledge that communism killed millions.

2019-07-24 14:52:21 UTC  

If I defend myself from you trying to kill me, then I'm just defending my liberties

2019-07-24 14:53:03 UTC  

If in the process you die, that's on you, not on me. Big difference to authoritarian manslaughter.

2019-07-24 14:53:06 UTC  

For believing in a different economic/political system. Hence my use of “political opponents”.

2019-07-24 14:53:08 UTC  

What pisses me off the most is the lying cunt Timmermans and his buddies calling BJ demagogue, and then adding "Britain should fulfill the deal they agreed to" with second breath.

2019-07-24 14:53:27 UTC  

It's only a difference if you believe in Liberalism @ETBrooD

2019-07-24 14:53:41 UTC  

as if the parliament has no say on whether Britain agrees to something

2019-07-24 14:53:44 UTC  

Because you just used Liberal reasoning to justify it

2019-07-24 14:54:06 UTC  

If you kill someone for their political beliefs, then you're a murderer, and in that moment you're acting politically, so you're an authoritarian. Not just a regular murderer.

2019-07-24 14:54:15 UTC  

'organisms defend themselves'
what politically charged reasoning!

2019-07-24 14:55:36 UTC  

totalitarianism is about the formalized incorporation of the organs comprising society into the state apparatus

2019-07-24 14:56:23 UTC  

Hence why AntiFa could be considered totalitarian

2019-07-24 14:56:41 UTC  

>Aka the anti-facist communist party.

2019-07-24 14:56:52 UTC  

there we go only took 8 minutes for that to show up

2019-07-24 14:56:53 UTC  

anarchists are by definition opposed to it

2019-07-24 14:57:03 UTC  

Indeed they are

2019-07-24 14:57:14 UTC  

Not a single anarchist can be found in AntiFa

2019-07-24 14:57:32 UTC  

You can also say that human life cannot be taken away unless for a divinley mandated reason to do with the Decalogue. The point is the way YOU justified the self defense is Liberal. I'm not saying that self defense is bad, I'm saying that your way of justifying is Liberal, so criticizing others for potentially not agreeing with you on that is just accusing them of not being Liberal, which in this context is just assuming your conclusion, as you started the argument as one against some other ideology...

2019-07-24 14:57:34 UTC  

So funny how history is repeating itself...

We're watching history unfold in-itself.

2019-07-24 14:57:54 UTC  

Why do you think the left is attacking so hard now.

2019-07-24 14:58:04 UTC  

pretty sure anarcho-communists are pretty common in antifa

2019-07-24 14:58:20 UTC  

Yeah but by name only

2019-07-24 14:58:40 UTC  

Their actions tell us they're just communists, or something along those lines

2019-07-24 14:58:47 UTC  

Only after the revolution phase and the system has been enforced, before that a communist revolution would function like a state. It might be a chaotic state, but it’s still would be a state at this stage.