Message from @Drywa11
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The system is all encompassing. No dissent is allowed. The ideology requires all of the population to follow it exclusively.
Actions speak louder than words. If you say one thing, but act the opposite, then you're the opposite of what you say.
A liberal who acts authoritarian is an authoritarian
Therefore no longer a liberal
That being said not all ancoms are totalitarian, but the Antifa types are.
NoTrueLiberal
Tho, is it authoritarian if they are not the state?
Basically anarchism without the non agression principle
_you might as well say savagery at that point tho_
(Authoritarianism is a gay concept that is totally devoid of meaning. All political systems are an imposition, including Liberalism)
You can be a liberal with very few authoritarian beliefs and actions, but you can't be mostly authoritarian and still be called liberal
Germany: wanted to take the banks, and be free from it in their country.
War was escalating.
When germany lost, they put the banks back in, no more war.
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USA. and Britian.
Wanted to be free from britians control.
US won the war, and it started the bill of rights, and amendments.
No more war...
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70+ years later... The anti-facist are back as Antifa.
Liberals calling other ppl authoritarian are just blind to their own authoritarianism
Which is kinda scary
Wonder what happens next, because it isn't happening yet.
No, tonight, it's more like temperature, where 'hot' is relative but there are absolutes (zero/anarchy, planck/nearly hive mind levels of control)
You're free to call other systems bad, but calling them authoritarian specifically, is just wankery
Is there a difference between the gestapo shooting you because you’re a political opponent and some communist militia shooting you as a political opponent. Regardless of what the ultimate goal is, some ancoms are prepared to use extreme levels of violence to forcefully convert everyone to communism.
The reason for shooting you matters
And it's common knowledge that communism killed millions.
If I defend myself from you trying to kill me, then I'm just defending my liberties
If in the process you die, that's on you, not on me. Big difference to authoritarian manslaughter.
What pisses me off the most is the lying cunt Timmermans and his buddies calling BJ demagogue, and then adding "Britain should fulfill the deal they agreed to" with second breath.
It's only a difference if you believe in Liberalism @ETBrooD
as if the parliament has no say on whether Britain agrees to something
Because you just used Liberal reasoning to justify it
If you kill someone for their political beliefs, then you're a murderer, and in that moment you're acting politically, so you're an authoritarian. Not just a regular murderer.
'organisms defend themselves'
what politically charged reasoning!
totalitarianism is about the formalized incorporation of the organs comprising society into the state apparatus
Hence why AntiFa could be considered totalitarian
>Aka the anti-facist communist party.
there we go only took 8 minutes for that to show up
anarchists are by definition opposed to it
Indeed they are
Not a single anarchist can be found in AntiFa
You can also say that human life cannot be taken away unless for a divinley mandated reason to do with the Decalogue. The point is the way YOU justified the self defense is Liberal. I'm not saying that self defense is bad, I'm saying that your way of justifying is Liberal, so criticizing others for potentially not agreeing with you on that is just accusing them of not being Liberal, which in this context is just assuming your conclusion, as you started the argument as one against some other ideology...
So funny how history is repeating itself...
We're watching history unfold in-itself.
Why do you think the left is attacking so hard now.
pretty sure anarcho-communists are pretty common in antifa
Yeah but by name only
Their actions tell us they're just communists, or something along those lines
Only after the revolution phase and the system has been enforced, before that a communist revolution would function like a state. It might be a chaotic state, but it’s still would be a state at this stage.