Message from @Drywa11

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2019-08-04 09:51:15 UTC  

youtube and google are public utilities

2019-08-04 09:51:20 UTC  

In fact default rules are often overruled by contracts. So.... Yeah.... And I'm the ignorant one.

2019-08-04 10:03:35 UTC  

Listen @ETBrooD ,you don't win an argument or change anyone's minds by repeating exactly the same things over and over, calling them idiots or ignorant, and then walking away.

If you want to actually learn other perspectives on the matter, you need patience. Or you can be a toddler in a grown man's body, but that choice is up to you not me.

Understand that, when taken collectively, contracts act as a form of LAW *de facto*, and are considered *de jure*to be valid by states when they adhere to the common law or local laws. Ergo, the claim that "no government allows companies to create legislation" isn't strictly true. Governments won't allow a company to legislate over the government, but governments are happy to let companies govern you, the individual, and your behaviour when you use their platform, so long as it adheres to what the state also requires.

You are arguing from the perspective of a government, not the perspective of the everyday citizen. Until you accept that alternative perspective actually exists and is just as valid (if not more so) you'll keep remaining ignorant of what people are trying to tell you (probably bevause you don't want to accept it, but that ain't my problem mate).

2019-08-04 10:05:07 UTC  

Finally, for you to claim companies don't create laws also ignores entirely the concept of *lobbying*, which is the driving force behind all regulation changes in the USA.

2019-08-04 10:07:04 UTC  

Don't at me

2019-08-04 10:07:24 UTC  

Then respond to my critique of your claims.

2019-08-04 10:07:35 UTC  

No, I'm done with you, and if you at me again I'll mute you

2019-08-04 10:07:52 UTC  

How childish.

2019-08-04 10:10:43 UTC  

Fine, mute me @ETBrooD. I'd rather call you on it and make you act and demonstrate you making rules and laws over who can speak to you, instead of a state. Creating a form of legislation enforced by a platforms functions.

2019-08-04 10:14:26 UTC  

what do you mean by a private court lupin? Havent heard of something like that existing these days, or maybe I use a different term for it

2019-08-04 10:54:34 UTC  

@Αγωνιζῆς the term I think is private arbitration. An agreed arbiter is appointed within the contract itself. it's similar to a civil court dispute in its processes (claimant vs defender, being decided over by a third party), and can even make somewhat good TV (as demonstrated by the likes of judge Judy, judge Rinder, etc).

They don't deal with "criminal law", just civil disputes within contracts. However they also have a lot of advantages: faster & cheaper than the public system of courts, and more likely to be enforced in any jurisdiction than just a court ruling (partly because its contractually set).

Of course there are some flipsides to this: it requires you to review all your contracts before signing (which tbf you should do anyway), some places have less enforcement options than court judgements, and it is a lot harder to find a means of appealling the rulings.

2019-08-04 10:58:08 UTC  

Arbitration even stopped America going to war with England arguably. Twice. Once in 1795 and the other not long after the American civil war (England backed the confederacy).

2019-08-04 11:11:02 UTC  

Tbh arbitration was being advocated as the best alternative to a war in the early 20th century. President Taft was really onto something there. Shame he didn't really understand the game of politics.

2019-08-04 14:34:39 UTC  

Ah ye, I already thought you meant private arbitration,

2019-08-04 14:36:18 UTC  

Well, in many ways arbitration between states instead of war is quite common

2019-08-04 14:37:01 UTC  

There are many contractual international courts these days

2019-08-04 14:38:31 UTC  

And wars are out these days, the pc term is 'military intervention' now haha

2019-08-04 15:50:57 UTC  

Ugh. Yeah, or 'police action', which is now passe but was big in the cold War.

But arbitration done privately is still a part of the law, not apart from it. I'm not sure how anyone could see it otherwise unless they are unaware of it.

2019-08-04 18:32:53 UTC  

Daily reminder that pretty much all mass shootings are perpetrated by men. Coincidence? I think not! And you ppl continue to question the validity of feminists fighting against toxic masculinity... Disguising...

2019-08-04 20:39:24 UTC  

Self fulfilled prophecy more like....

Or did we forget that vegan chick who attacked the youtube complex?

2019-08-04 20:41:24 UTC  

Did you just assume their gender? What a bigot

2019-08-04 21:51:59 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM because women don't have the balls to shoot a gun

2019-08-04 21:52:17 UTC  

*yes that is a pun*

2019-08-04 21:53:28 UTC  

Your making fun of a tragedy is truly despicable. Made only worse by the fact that we face a serious necessity to increase gun control in this country and your shenanigans don't help!

2019-08-04 22:05:51 UTC  

what does Swiss and/or Polish gun control have to do with anything?
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2019-08-04 22:19:29 UTC  

Smh, there *are* no borders. It's all just a fascist conspiracy to keep us divided! @wotmaniac

2019-08-04 22:19:56 UTC  

Like voter ID

2019-08-04 22:42:34 UTC  

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2019-08-05 07:43:20 UTC  

Fucking borders, dividing us by uniting us in an area, maaan.

2019-08-05 15:02:55 UTC  

If there’s only one Reich then there’s no need for borders

2019-08-05 15:20:54 UTC  

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2019-08-05 15:43:11 UTC  

America is not diverse enough, only through world conquest can we reach peak diversity.

2019-08-05 15:48:00 UTC  

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2019-08-05 15:51:42 UTC  

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2019-08-05 15:55:27 UTC  
2019-08-05 15:56:15 UTC  

@TEABAG!!! And you're saying this in relation to?

2019-08-05 15:57:10 UTC  

They would have made alliances with other countries if they had their own governments- during WWII

2019-08-05 15:57:45 UTC  

Again, what is this in relation to that was discussed b4? I confuse

2019-08-05 15:58:59 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM ```` Namely that the new ideal German is depicted as gleefully aggressive towards not only the passé, old German "bigot", but also explicitly towards foreigners who disagree with the new German "ordering" of the world. The people who end up being charged by the angry mob of... Liberated (?), degenerate new Germans, hold up placards with the faces of Dutch and Hungarian politicians... `````

2019-08-05 16:00:01 UTC  

I have no idea why they want to remain neutral either.

2019-08-05 16:00:05 UTC  

Ok. I'm still confused as to why this piece of information adds to that point or indeed detracts from it. I really confuse