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@Orlando Thank you King : D
People are reading "Culture of Critique" but we cannot talk about it or face getting banned?
I got banned for something else
Culture of Critique" thing isn't very easy to ban
because banning for a book makes them look bad
Book burnings are going in style.
Funny how people always look for loopholes with the sex before marriage stuff lol
remove the congress piece of crap Ilhan Omar for marrying her own brother who was a UK citizen to get him into America
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/removal-d-mn-iihan-abdullahi-omar-5th-congressional-district-her-participation-marriage-fraud
Muslim shills don't want you to read this https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah+2%3A17-20%2C4%3A1-19
"...Geshem the Arab...the Arabs..."
Almost like the Bible is trying to tell us something about who could possibly be spreading propaganda against building walls... the people who have a vested interest in the collapse of Christianity and the West
Pick up the phone James!
@GiovanniA Pick up โค
Sorry about that! Lines were busy!
What's up everyone!
hello
Whats good people!
Happy Friday to all
nothing much
just studying for myt cert
MYT cert?
Alright, @Yuri (Hashtag Bullstrong) has been warned for '**Posted an invite**'.
Hello, I just watched about 2-3 hours of JLP videos and there was some points where I think having some information that I happen to have in terms of statistics would have been beneficial to him. Where would be the best place to post it?
Relating to promiscuity and how damaging it is, and how bad any other family configuration is to man and woman
@Legitimate [OCE] probably in suggestions ๐๐ป
Statistics would be cool
Morning yall
Nice stats.
Morning, yeah they are pretty powerful
I was just watching <https://youtu.be/hr1K3hWMjx4> and Jesse claims that black people don't earn their way (in terms of Uni entrance I assume), they get given it due to their being black. While it *is* true that affirmative action does allow many black persons who are not qualified to enter, there is still really smart black people. I cringe at making the 'not all' argument because I hate it myself, usually I'd assume he was implying that but for some reason it seemed like he was claiming that *no* black people get into really high colleges on merit alone. <:thinking3d:494352154748911646>
I mean, it's a bell curve, so you're always going to get some that can make it
Tell me if I'm just reading him wrong there
What is systematic racism?
Fiction
what is the fiction?
It
Every situation that a certain group likes to blame racism for has a better more reasonable explanation that usually even has stats to back it up.
What is the explanation of Systematic fiction?
The hard part about it, is that it's the truth, and a lot of people don't want to hear the truth. The chances of 'truth' fitting what is or isn't 'politically correct' at a given time as a whole is virtually zero, so if you don't veer into the politically incorrect you will never find truth.
systematic Racism*
In what context? Academic achievement? Unemployment? How they act? Their income?
What is systematic Racism?
Answer my question first, I already said it doesn't exist, now I'm asking you in which context so I can provide a counterpoint to the argument of systemic racism in that field.
Just tell me what it is
Are you trolling?
What is it?
Systemic racism is the fictional belief that inequalities between races is caused by unfair or hateful behavior, attitudes or beliefs against the 'oppressed' race by the 'oppressor'. It doesn't actually exist though.
This is on the societal scale.
All the evidence is there, but people don't want to look for it, or at it, because it isn't the result you want to see.
ok
When you look at the data, the smart blacks who are smart enough to get in on merit alone like test scores and grades are a minority. The only way to get equal representation where the blacks in positions is equal to their demographic numbers is to do affirmative action and lower the standards.
"Not all women are weak and worthless" but when you look at police departments they are being forced to do affirmative action style pushes for women.
The "not all" argument is so stupid that you really never need to point it out. In 90% of cases, the other person just didn't clarify they were mentioning the average. Only a tiny minority of people I have seen speak in absolutes.
If they actually were speaking in absolutes, they are either trolling or are very very dumb and won't be convinced of anything.
amazing
@Legitimate [OCE] The principle of charity dictates that you shouldn't critique a generalization just because "not all X do Y". And really, claiming that JLP was saying "all X do Y" is a straw man argument. But even if he *were* saying "all Blacks are underqualified", he is essentially correct. Due to Affirmative Action, all Blacks are *able* to get into schools that are too difficult for them, and we could reasonably expect reasonable people to choose the best school that accepts them. That means (nearly) 100% of Blacks are underqualified *for the best school that accepts them*. And statistics show us that Blacks actually perform much better and have much more positive career outcomes when they attend a school whose difficulty is on par with their ability. You could actually make this same complaint in reverse, that Asians are over-qualified for the best school that accepts them, which is damaging to their career outcome and to the other people whose grading curve they're destroying.
Just like with women, he makes good generalizations, always claiming not all
And not most black people & women are a certain way, but a lot of them. And as far as how many blacks behave a certain way in city areas, we can then say most
Or women in cities as well
@Sar Ah yeah for sure, I didn't consider the argument in terms of *the best school that accepts them*.
does anyone know which radio show from jesse it was where he says "It's in the air, it's everywhere! Uh ohhh, liberals you're losing!"
welcome home, bill
http://silentprayer.video/ isn't loading for me. Anyone else?
@everyone
People are upvoting this "Culture of Critique" comment under a Gillette Ad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koPmuEyP3a0&lc=z22fdhgogvbov1hrq04t1aokgjgrnbvks51fbo00mjnhbk0h00410
That ad is horrible
This is the worst ad I've seen - and from Gillette! I feel betrayed. Got my first Gillette blade at 20 and never gonna get one ever again!
Yep fuck gillette
I think not swearing as much is going to be one of the hardest parts of becoming a Christian for me, been so bad with that for so many years
Anyone have experience converting to Christianity and having problems with cursing?
I curse
Isn't it a sin?
I don't think so
hello guys
hello guys, im here for the Destiny interview thing
when is Destiny going to be on the show?
i think 40mins
@Legitimate [OCE] you have to do it anyway if you're going to have children or be around families. Cursing is intrinsically degenerate.
Isaiah 9:17 Therefore the Lord will take no pleasure in the young men, nor will he pity the fatherless and widows, for everyone is ungodly and wicked, every mouth *speaks vileness*. And for all this, his anger is not turned away, his hand is still upraised.
AMAZIN
The question is, why would Isaiah rebuke us for something that wasn't commanded to us? The answer is, the commandment "Be holy" includes not speaking vile words.
And the proof of this is that the Holy Tongue doesn't even contain dirty words. F---, p---, s---, don't exist; they are expressed as the euphemisms "to know", "foot water", and "to cover one's feet". To speak vileness required actually going out of one's way borrow words from heathen tongues and learn from heathen ways.
everyones a sinner @Sar
If you cuss on occasion its not a big deal
Grace Theology is degenerate
Hebrews 10:26-7 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only *a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire* that will consume the enemies of God.
I just saw a JLP facebook post that JLP is no longer on Newsmax. Anyone know why? I watch on YouTube anyway, just wondering if they were pressured by the children of the lie to take him off TV?
All the big names on YouTube are being removed from their Network... Malkin, and Gavin were removed from CRTV
Imagine if Congress gets more Muslims and it is a constant scandal of anti-Semitic remarks by elected officials but the liberal media is too scared to say anything about it.
Sounds like you want that to happen
I think we all benefit when our clown politicians become even more clownish.
That's not what I asked
I asked if you wanted more clown politicians, which would make Trump's job more difficult
Because it sounds like you're supporting global Islamic conquest for the sake of accelerationism, which is an idiotic position
I wouldn't call it accelerationism because the Muslims in Congress only make one or two remarks that are anti-Semitic but haven't actually done anything yet.
So all it has created is hilarious headlines from desperate Republicans asking the Democrats to cut off their own party members.
So Keith Ellison hasn't done anything to Minnesotastan
You're not too bright, are you?
What?
Dearborb Michigan is an immigration problem, not an anti-Semitic Congressperson problem.
Case in point
amazin
Whats even goin on over here eh ?
Does anyone use this server ne more
nope
good.
stream not workin
whats the word?
I knew this was coming after newsmax took him off
Why did newsmax take him off?
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Anyone know what's going on?
Im trying to search around and find out why - i bet its because he defended steve king
did he get striked?
yeah but they love to shut streams down while they are live
@T e x oh I didnt know that. But he isn't live on his streaming website either. So I don't think it has anything to do with YouTube
It must be something technical on their end
Heโs not live on periscope/twitter either. Was searching for another stream
anyone know whats going on with the steam?
@Mattalaska I think they are having technical issues.
Wait i think hes back
ayeee
yea he's back
Yep live on periscope/twitter
And yt
Why am i always at a point in life where i have to seperate myself from my friends
@JamersonEX because most of the world is ignorant
Much more morons out there than not
Morons everywhere.
We dont even have to belittle morons by giving them a title.. theyre just simply all distractors
Detractors
Disablers
Why would the Muslim shill want us all to give him our IPs?
to kill you
Gay
`Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez first House floor speech (C-SPAN)` To quote President Trump... "Who cares"
who is the muslim shill trying to get IPs?
She'll be the first Female Latina Not-Rich Democratic Socialist president.
Cortez is an idiot that was elected by racist millennials who are too ignorant to know communism has failed every time it was tried
Not rich? She sure did grow up more privileged than me
upper middle class in the very least, affluent neighborhood
she has tried to sell herself as a poor girl
but then, she's a liar and it's easily proven
But here is a video of her cooking mac and cheese while talking politics!
I know right, Pocahontas is my new beer drinking buddy
Ocasio-Cortez has already had meetings with evil assholes like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton - sheโs already being corrupted by the swamp
Just listened to show - very good one - liked that one call from guy that separated from crazy girlfriend
the jesse interveiw with the gamer dude was great
Sup guys
Remember the time AOC said she was gonna run train on the progressive agenda
How the gamer guy from today is definitely miserable on the inside
wait do people non ironically think jlp โownedโ destiny?
Destiny owns whoever he debates because he does nothing more than clever debate tactics that don't make his arguments seem as weak.
what is a โclever debate tacticโ
If you don't prepare for the debate and he does, he wins.
If you don't pull the same strategies, he wins.
thats how most debates work?
why would you debate something you dont know about?
From what I've seen, his gish galloping.
"I just listed 3 things and you cannot respond to every single point? Ha, I win!"
but he tells the people he debates to interrupt him if they disagree on a certain point
Most of what he did was just saying โokโ and chuckle didnโt really stand up for his position how weak
*most* debates are not the most intellectual debates.
To prepare for a debate is to have studies on hand and arguments pre-written. You can be an expert on the topic and not have that prepared.
well
if youโre an expert on a topic
you would be able to defend you standpoint
prettu easily
without having pre written arguments
*Especially* with Destiny being the type to demand you source an argument he doesn't like but never starts an argument with "According to Name (Year),..."
when does he do this?
It's completely unreasonable to have every fact you know be easily sourced.
okay again
when does he do this?
His debate with Naked Ape is the one I watched all the way through, even his autistic stream after it where he debates Ape after Ape already got kicked.
so if someone makes an outlandish statement, its wrong for someone to ask for proof?
What is an "outlandish statement" to you? It's completely subjective.
to say the earth is flat is an outlandish statement i would say
My field of study has 101-level shit be considered "outlandish" to normies just because it's non-PC.
i think thats something most people can agree on
whatโs your field of study
But the main point is that in a debate, it simply cannot be one person supplying all the "sources" to their arguments.
Race Politics.
and what in that field of study is outlandish to normies
Basic police procedure, when it comes to the sub-field of police brutality.
and what about that is โnon-pcโ?
or outlandish
Non-PC would be that black men getting shot by police is in part because of them refusing to wear belts and grabbing in their crotch region to pull up their pants, which is a big no-no.
Bruh Jesse trying to call Gillette gotta be the funniest thing Iโve seen all day
It's such an *obvious* thing that I've been crowned king for pointing it out, for some reason.
...
i dont even know how to respond to something that idiotic
ok how many black men have been shot by police for pulling up their pants for not wearing belts?
im genuinely curious
Think it was just an example of dumb things people think they can get away with
If I were to debate Destiny on that topic, I'd end up ripping my hair out because I basically need to be un-interrupted for 3-5 minutes to fully explain the importance of something or the details of a police procedure.
Destiny is *incapable* of letting someone get more than a sentence in.
i can show you examples that contrast that statement
That's why I think he's such a worthless scum, because his debate with Ape had him interrupting Ape *then complaining when Ape wouldn't let him finish a sentence*.
but ape was literally doing the thing you accused destiny of doing?
Keeping an unequal number of interruptions and sources is basically the quickest way to make a debate to enter the dumb-zone.
stawmanning and gish galloping?
ape was literally yelling โshut up!โ like a child while he was trying to state his side of the argument
I don't remember Ape gish galloping *immediately* after Destiny asked him not to, the opposite of which I remember happened.
im listening to it rn put it on yourself
turn the video on yourself**
Destiny is the biggest beta male I've seen on the internet
I'm not going to listen to it a second time.
I stopped giving leftist YouTubers the time of day.
so you just sit in an echo chamber of people who agree with you?
why not challenge your ideas and see if they stand to other peoples ideas
It doesn't work like that.
why doesnt it?
When you do a basic glance at manipulation/propaganda strategies, the "market of ideas" where you intentionally looking for the best, fair arguments doesn't work in reality.
i talk to people i disagree with all the time, if im proven wrong or something i look to strengthen my argument or change my point of view
When most of the arguments you come across with follow the same set of rules and come from the same instinctual motivation, it doesn't matter if you experience that argument first hand or just think of it while daydreaming.
thats why you challenge that argument, and if its not sound then you disregard it
Basically it's an "oh, you used that argument because it's emotionally manipulative."
you can separate feelings from an argument on certain topics
Debate doesn't allow you to disregard an argument without a paragraph of rhetorical strategies on why it's a shit argument. "That's a shitlib's argument" is much simpler.
Lmao
The majority of people in comment sections and chat rooms simply cannot separate their feelings from their arguments.
I'd much rather be in an echo chamber than spend my free time reading "Trump/Russia collusion!" for the literal thousandth time.
ok and if you disagree with that for whatever reason
Once you know the underlying motivations and them and their ilk's arguments, I don't see why there is a point in constantly engaging with them.
why not challenge it?
Their arguments are all the same, extremely predictable
I gain nothing new listening to them
i could say the same for conservatives
I don't learn anything
Well I'm not a conservative
never said you were
Sure
lol
anyways tho, i just think echo chambers and circle jerks are retarded and dont offer anything productive
I get what you mean, but conservatives and mainstream leftists hardly ever have original arguments that explain in depth why something should be as they promote
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