wait do people non ironically think jlp “owned” destiny?

what is a “clever debate tactic”

thats how most debates work?

why would you debate something you dont know about?

but he tells the people he debates to interrupt him if they disagree on a certain point

well

if you’re an expert on a topic

you would be able to defend you standpoint

prettu easily

without having pre written arguments

when does he do this?

okay again

when does he do this?

so if someone makes an outlandish statement, its wrong for someone to ask for proof?

to say the earth is flat is an outlandish statement i would say

i think thats something most people can agree on

what’s your field of study

and what in that field of study is outlandish to normies

and what about that is “non-pc”?

or outlandish

...

i dont even know how to respond to something that idiotic

ok how many black men have been shot by police for pulling up their pants for not wearing belts?

im genuinely curious

i can show you examples that contrast that statement

but ape was literally doing the thing you accused destiny of doing?

stawmanning and gish galloping?

ape was literally yelling “shut up!” like a child while he was trying to state his side of the argument

im listening to it rn put it on yourself

turn the video on yourself**

so you just sit in an echo chamber of people who agree with you?

why not challenge your ideas and see if they stand to other peoples ideas

why doesnt it?

i talk to people i disagree with all the time, if im proven wrong or something i look to strengthen my argument or change my point of view

thats why you challenge that argument, and if its not sound then you disregard it

you can separate feelings from an argument on certain topics

ok and if you disagree with that for whatever reason

why not challenge it?

i could say the same for conservatives

never said you were

lol

anyways tho, i just think echo chambers and circle jerks are retarded and dont offer anything productive

you can learn anything talking to people who agree with you all the time

cant*

i mean the usefulness is debatable

obv nothing wrong with having a community

but to never branch out and talk to different people?

not really for me i gues

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the thing is you can steelman your own arguments by testing them against people who disagree with you

this goes back to what i said earlier

if you talk to someone who disagrees with you

and they prove a pov you have to be weak or invalid and u cant back it up

you can then look at what they attacked and strengthen that part of your argument

im sure every person on earth believes that same thing pgrabber lol

everybody things they’re right and if you disagree you’re wrong or dumb

and how did you change your worldview?

by talking to people?

reading different shit?

exactly

thats my whole point

talking to people is beneficial

i don’t necessarily mean leftists in general

i mean people outside of an echo chamber

intelligent people can have opposing viewpoints though

to write off anyone who disagrees with you as “unintelligent” seems

idk childish

im not talkin abt what u said legitimate

i can agree with that

whats your opinion of the current state of the govt rn

what are those key issues?

how do you feel about the entire “russia” allegations

tbh i havent looked into too much so i dont really know how much they have or if they have anything on trump

i wouldnt put it past media tho

wild ive never seen that

ill look into that