I’ve been asking for this for almost a year!

Glad to have it

Guess I’ll start it off. I have three kids a daughter that’s 11 and two sons whom are 9 and 3. There is nothing like being a dad. There is nothing harder than being a dad and trying to keep your kids away from the pozz while allowing them to have a normal life.

My first kid is due in October, can I be honorary parent?

You belong in here forsure. One of our ky members has a son due in oct

Exciting. If I’m not mistaken there’s a few more IE buns in the oven as well

What do you guys think of spanking as discipline? (I'm not a father yet, just curious)

Oof, I’m very conflicted on that one. On one hand I remember getting spanked as a kid and there are few times I remember being that scared and upset as a youngin. I also never want to be that mad at my kid that I’d hit them.

So I hope having a stern presence and using a booming tone will be sufficient when it comes to that.

hmm

Yeah, I remember being on the receiving end a few times. Ideally I'd never have to use it? but I think it might have a time and place

but incredibly rare

I wouldn't say never though

Cause it does teach a lesson

Exactly, like that punishment stuck with me. But id want to save it as a last resort

I think alot of compliance can be achieved with how the mother acts

if she's playing along with the "You better listen to your father" thing

Discipline ought to be a team effort, one parent only isn't enough of shaming and directioning

Agreed. My mom and dad had times where they didn’t work together and that’s something I want to stress with my wife when the time comes

Discipline should never involve anger.

Anger by its nature is undisciplined.

Spanking has its place. I use it more as a tool when the kids are younger. And if you use that tool and others right as they get older spanking isn’t necessary

I use things like push ups all the way to writing essays. Many different circumstances call for different things.

I was never spanked, I was born in the 80s to very conservative parents; however mom was a nurse in the maternity ward at a hospital and was convinced that spanking was bad for child development.
Molyneux calls it “the bomb in the brain” because studies show spanking has irreversible effects on brain development, lowering IQ, increasing violence, and more.
https://youtu.be/sf7uq9NUOnY

I'd be interested to see the frequency in which it was used in those studies

because if it was alot, it's nearing the territory if similar effects with literal abuse

I was rarely spanked as a child,and only a fee times when smaller. Groundings worked better. I aslo used some spanking on my daughter when she was really little,but not as much the older she got,i used grounding and taking things away,like her computer or music and she knew she really messed up if it got to that. With the stepkids it was used a lil too,but more so the standing in the corner. But that also didn't last long,our involvement in raising them as their mother took and raised them far up north not long after we had the youngest. So I can honestly say more so from raising my own daughter then.

Hello all, my wife and I are expecting our first child in October. Does anyone have any suggested reading materials for expectant/1st time fathers?

Congratulations brother! I’m in the exact same boat as you. I’ve read a few, and the majority of them all do this same dumb thing; “hur dur hormonal wives and dirty diapers! Now you can’t watch football all day.” One book that I found that doesn’t do that and actually gives good advice is “idiots guide: pregnancy for dads”

Indeed, congrats mein freund!

Thank you both! and thanks for the suggestion @Grossly Incandescent

@martin Congratulations!

@martin do you know if it’s a boy or girl?

Anyone heard of “Love & Logic”? I’ve heard a lot of good things about it for a few years, but my wife and I just got the book a couple months ago.

So far it’s lived up to most of the hype, but it’s still early and I gotta finish the book. 😅

Can we get a quick rundown

@Grossly Incandescent we're gonna let it be a surprise

Exciting!

@Grossly Incandescent Sorry, were you talking to me? Yeah, I’ll try to summarize the methodology. It’s called “Love and Logic” but you could also call it “Empathy and Natural Consequences”, it’s just not as catchy. Basically, you make sure you administer all discipline with a healthy dose of empathy so you’re not the bad guy. And discipline should be natural consequences as much as possible.

https://www.loveandlogic.com

@celticflame thanks!

I’m sure everyone’s noticed this at least once, but what are your thoughts on this modern style of parenting where the kid whines and the parents just hand them a smartphone or tablet.

@Grossly Incandescent that is being grossly negligent. It will cause those kids many problems later in life

It makes me sad, these kids can’t even speak and they’re already being conditioned by too much screen time and instant gratification, all because the parents are lazy

When you reward whining, you get more whining.

Nice to see this new channel as I haven't visited this server in a while! We have been enjoying this new addition to our family!

@Volkmom congratulations on your new addition! So cute! Wish I had one that little still.

@Volkmom Congratulations! Absolutely adorable

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Any thoughts on kids playing rough sports? My nephew is interested in football, but my brother is concerned about injury

I would not let my kids play football. Loads of concussions that leave irreversible brain damage. I’m not going to make them stay inside all day, but why play head-butt games with blacks?

My high-IQ normie friends who love watching football won’t let their own kids play football. They know better.

I swam and played water polo. Both very athletic and low impact

When I was a kid my dad made me play football and I never really wanted to. But if the kid wants to do it and isn’t being forced/ pressured into it they might get really resentful if they’re not allowed to

^

Lots of kids play football and turn out fine. If he's older, too, he probably won't play very long

I totally get the worry of injury. I broke my arm playing football. But a kid won’t think about that and just get upset

That being said, though, my brother broke his wrist a few summers ago at Freshman football tryouts

Maybe flag football if the option is available?

You don't really have to worry about head injuries until high school. the kids simply cant hit hard enough at that age

I think there is a lot of value in boys playing physical, team oriented sports, though if we have sons this will probably be an issue of contention with my wife and I. Depending on the school, you wont really run into a lot of pituitary case blacks, either.

I played through high school and dont regret it, even though I had at least one concussion, a broken wrist and beat up knees and shoulders. College ball is something else entirely, though. Probably not worth it.

I'm not a parent but I wanted to share pictures of my niece.

She's definitely a mover I took about a dozen pictures and these were the least blurry.

From some father son time. My 10 year old and middle son.

The fish was 4 lbs 5 ounces and 14.5 inches long.

Damn, dude. That's nice

Was his first cast that night also. Haha.

If your kid can’t fish and hunt are you even raising white kids?

I grew up in the suburbs, bro. It's a depressing fact that I never learned to be a man

^

@JesseJames I'd love to hunt and fish unfortunately my dad never took me as a kid (I don't think he knew how either)

You don't have to live on a lake to fish at one.

I grew up in the suburbs and I did hunting and fishing and camping and milked a cow and drove a boat

And to be a great dad, you don't have to know how to do everything, just make sure to expose your kid to all the things. If you don't hunt, but have a friend who hunts, or a fellow church member, or the boy scouts or something, your boy can still learn to hunt.

It takes a village.

@John O - @Deleted User @Zyzz come out to South Dakota in October or November. I'll teach you how to kill for your food.

Gutting a pheasant is pretty easy. We do raccoons and coyotes out here too pretty much year round. Most guys would probably consider me pretty small but I can definitely teach you all a thing or two.

I've gone into the woods and shot boar because they're an invasive species. I want to do python in the Everglades sometime

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We have wild boars at my parent's estate, used to have our ammo bought by camp blanding to keep the pop down

Once it starts cooling off we'll start culling rattlesnakes. I've got two so far this year but they sun on the roads during the fall so they're easy to get.

I just realized how far from parenting this conversation drifted, but any parents who want their children to know how to kill rattlesnakes call me.

@John O - I'm still planning it. Remind me to talk to Leo about it, but I'm so down

Real talk, I probably am not up for it. I have a strict policy of not mixing Federally regulated items and dissident politics

@Attrition in the desert estate, huh?

Yeah I was also raising hogs with FFA at the time so it was slightly ironic.

Sometimes I feel like a good grounding in agriculture is a vital skill for a child, it helps bind generations together through the familiar connection of soil.

When I was really young my grandfather taught me all of these things and then I enjoyed them with my father later in life. I was raised hunting fishing farming playing sports and doing motor sports. So now I am passing along the same things to my son.

Something I've noticed with my grandson,my stepson's son,is he has been with mama & daddy too much,so trying to get him exposed to other family & friends on regular basis helped,also stepping up with dads getting involved with more in his presence is helping him not be a mama's boy. Getting a whole way to expose him to more guy things is helping in addition to the normal nourishing from mama,a decent balance of both sexes. Also in the future helping to teach him various fishing,hunting,target practice,sports,etc will help round him out.

Also as a lil girl,i learned some of these things .too

Any tips on bringing up a baby girl in this crazy world?

He just turned 2 last month

Try to teach her all ways of traditional worlds,yet also round out some nicely in how to take care of herself by self defense & also fishin,hunting,an equal balance of both things.

@Grossly Incandescent

My wife took a WIC breastfeeding class the other day and they said it was ok to smoke and drink while breastfeeding

Made me really mad

@Grossly Incandescent my granddaughter,also from stepson enjoys her girly stuff,but is also learning to enjoy boy things too like trucks,lizards & eventually hopefully they may soon get her into karate or there abouts,she is 5. She loves her pink & princess stuff,but also anything ypu can get your hands on educational wise,book,puzzles,etc too. She is a quick study.