doesn't trs praise us and our optics nearly every time we do an action? I don't understand why there is this constant anti-trs stuff in here

who is TRS again?

the right stuff dot biz

I just find those guys, their sense of humor and strategy really embarrassing.

Well you get 200k listeners and I'll hear you out

populism is the only way forward rt

Who looks more jewish Mike Enoch or weev?

You

weev

@Gibson it's definitely not from our perspective

cope

Idk, was Weev married to a jewish woman?

Enoch was

I know.

Nope but he looks like Allen ginsburg

If it weren’t for the NORMIES we’d have won by now. Appealing to the SHEEP NORMIES is why the ALT RIGHT is failing. Populism is a failure. We must DOMINATE ALL NORMIES. - isolated ideologue on a discord

this tbh

fuggin rekt

Looking for a good book I can give to my nephew in high school. He is a freshman. Any ideas? Looking for something that would inspire him in some way...

Who cares this is levels of punching right that shouldn't even be possible

I feel like we are winning

@Undercover Academic - IL what kind of books does he like?

Peak Optimism

does the right stuff even have a web page

Chad Bloomer

the right stuff dot biz

Well that’s the thing. His mom just gets him video games all the time ☹️ @Kingfish

oof

@Undercover Academic - IL epic

@Kingfish RIP

Lol

Lol keep telling yourselves populism works rn when all whites will do is look up IE and see "NEO NAZI WHITE SUPREMACISTS" and write your asses off.

our*

so whats ur solution NNNNNNGUY

still cant give one

Wouldn’t that be more of a reason to be populist and reasonable

And not be autists

I mean hey you be you

Do we have a sperg on our hands ?

Keep on making content and building infrastructure

lmao

We will lmao

Keep on sperging

dab

Everyone needs to calm down

woah did someone call gibson a sperg

😎

> Announcement coming soon

@Gibson I just gave solution

👏

It almost seems like all the solutions require illicit behavior these days.

uhm...

Anyway why do you need a solution to my point? Normies at the time being see you as Nazis no matter what

More will come around, yeah

That’s so untrue though

^

Memes are winning . Strategic patience. Enemies are panicking.

Calling them normies is cringy on its on

thats a caved in brain take

Seeing them as a separate class of people is just sad lmao

@Perihelion - CA Agreed

theyre your brothers and sisters

stop being bougie

Plenty of them just simply have to Google you.

calling people normies is bougie?

I'm not ffs

Sure, plenty of them don’t believe the media

I'm being realistic about the predicament

The staff at our conference venue thanked us last year

Humiliate them, we will have to plan for that to become illegal though.

Calling people bougie is bougie

They’re not WN ideologues.

They’re normal white Trump supporters.

they are our target audience

trump supporters are the future of this whole plan

Basically.

All of us were “normies” at one point.

and now we are dissidents

@Reinhard Wolff As I said before, my perspective may be skewed. Buy I personally believe the populous isn't ready yet. The white populous .

We’re still normal people lmao

populace

get it together jr

We’re not some special elite class of super racial heroes

we are political dissidents lol

I'm still normal. I think not wanting to be exterminated by a rootless cosmopolitan elite is pretty normal.

They’re headed in the right direction. The number of white people who want to become minorities is smaller than you’d think.

That’s great we have dissident views but if we become some weird fringe culture (like we have basically been under the banner of the AR) it will go nowhere

We’re not totally normal. We are willing to fight for our people, and others are not. That’s what sets us apart.

Cringe

Seems like we have this argument once every month

more frequently than that pls

Cringe

Idek how this happened

“Cringe” is incredibly disrespectful

Come on guys

I blame Gibson

i blame the jooz

The whole meme of normies is that everyone was one at some point before falling down the rabbit whole. Edge troll culture and conspiracy theory (framework rebasing process ) has gone mainstream. Trump base is poised to take redpill enmass and in fact it's happening before our eyes. What we are doing is working and if anything we should double down on meme war.

Surely we can discuss these things civilly

Same

Very Anglo of us to promote tolerance and civility

pat is potato

oh Gibson (70's sitcom laughtrack)

Meme war it is.

Not cringe. Totally accurate. We’re not weirdos like many others, but we’re making sacrifices, expending energy, and working towards goals that benefit us and all other normal white people

Creating some fringe culture where we talk about “normies” like a totally different class of people who aren’t “on our level” willing to serve their people is cringey and it won’t get anywhere

Maybe we need to just stop focusing on how “normie” people are because we have little to no clue what’s actually going on in those peoples heads.

I seem like a normie irl

@Undercover Academic - IL surely you mean very *Celt* of us to promote tolerance and civility

We were all once normies

Or at least most of us

@NITRODUBS no idea what the argument is but I don't judge 'normies' for the same reason that I come off as very normie

Whether or not we use normie here it's still a way I think and honestly it's been effective. You must respect the profound difference in perspective between you and your audience.

The only thing not normal about us is that we seek out people with a common viewpoint for fraternity and to further common goals.

Normies don't become dissidents

Oh, just let it go already

They do the exact opposite

Why?

I'm just saying

I’m just saying you’re a goofball

Get ready for the 🔨

That’s entirely wrong and there’s several examples of that in this group

I was a normiecon israel shill guy, now I'm a dissident. wym we don't become dissidents?

It’s coming 🔨

You’re being elitist

I love sheeple

We gotta be the shepherds

Or we gotta be normal

yeah be normal

Dude I used to be the biggest philosemite you could meet

@Kingfish Saying that we’re doing stuff isn’t putting ourselves above the average white person, and isn’t an argument for alienating ourselves to the populace

NPC meme was directly grown from normie meme and it was huge psychological win for us

Ok I'm normal now

What does it mean to be "normal"? 🤔 <:thinkplant:359034245777457173>

dont try to larp as some enlightened elevated ubermensch

You guys are different from the average

Normie meme is important because it's true

¿You think people are born dissidents?

Honestly the worst thing that happened to this movement imo was the lexicon and inside jokes that created such a strong bubble of fringe edge culture that effectively killed our ability to expand.

Yes

Most people will come around, but that's when we gain power

I am a born dissident

Our ideas are accessible, defensible and normal.

We need to stop envisioning ourselves as radicals. If we want to win, we need to become radically normal - if you aren't there, get there.

Like you realize most of us in here qualify as “normies” right? We have house wives, regular working men with families who might not meet your standard for dissident

Reminder “white shariah” started as a meme and then Half the movement became staunch defenders of it

No dude you have to be on 4chan to own the normies

normie is basically a synonym for npc

G r o s s

I think part of the issue is how the term “normie” is defined

Doing the same thing with terms like normie and npc is just as bad

I think IE branding as aggressively normal is a good move. But wider dissident movement needs to keep the edge

Je suis normie

I’m not sure we’re all using the same definition

What is a normie

I play both roles depending on audience

TRS lingo is just a bad idea in general

its dumb

just talk like a normal person

Wasn’t there a recent article about balancing inside culture of a political group with the ability to appeal to the mainstream??

This reminds me of that comic where every person in the panel is thinking “wow I bet these people aren’t even aware of anything”

Yeah, political identity paradox

If you become too subcultural you lose

^

That’s the civil way to say it yeah

we're becoming too subcultural

I suppose I could have taken that route

My bad fellas

I always thought normie was a term for people with mainstream political opinion, culture, and likes/dislikes. A girl is a normie if she likes starbucks for example. With this definition it's clear we're not "normies" in the sense that we dont abide to mainstream ideology, but we ARE normal people in the sense that we live normal lifestyles

But you become too mainstream then who cares

Average people don't want to join something like IE until it's socially acceptable to do so. You're all different from the norm because whether you like it or not, were not socially acceptable by the status quo. THATS ALL IM SAYING PEOPLE.

I'm gonna get off now

Like it or not, a very large percentage of people are unwilling and/or incapable of differing from the majority, comfortable opinion. Those people are "normies."

Yeah we gotta remember what we are. We’re not some leet hacker meme group, we’re literally just white people trying to peacefully exist as white people lmao

That's just the reality of humanity.

the ohioan is right

*ranch dressing intensifies*

Yeah, maybe they outwardly express popular opinion, but again, we don’t know what’s going on through people’s heads

I was a complete shit lib with nationalist thoughts for years

I'm a normie at work.

IE should brand as normies but stay plugged into broader dissident meme culture that keeps the normie distinction. Like how socialists accomplished all the goals of communism while using communism as proof they were normal.

I believe the correct denomyn of Ohioans is "Buckeyes"

Muh corn and buckeyes

Since identity online is non unitary you can literally have it both ways if you have the headspace for it.

Pepsi is correct insofar as the "average" person might not feel comfortable joining a taboo group. The danger here -- and I'm not accusing him of this -- is creating an in-group (people with our views) vs. out-group (people without our views) distinction, and then saying "there's no use appealing to normies." People use that as an excuse to be careless and remain fringe.

^

I'm a normie in the streets, and a normie at home too

A similar issue is defining "the movement" as us and every other taboo right-wing group in society.

"The movement is IE, TWP, and Patrick Little!" is still how some people think.

I consider us an identitarian wing of the broader populist movement in America.

I think our views are pretty normal. If you really pry into the head of any middle class white person they’re thinking this

More emphasis on the identitarian definition.

The moment you find out you are a normie is the moment you cease to be a normie.

Rather than an identitarian wing of 1.0.

Normies must be programmed not convinced.

lmao wat

bro

Like, most the people viciously against us are childless goblin creatures

*w a t*

Lol

Calm down @Gibson

@Zilna Jestov but I like being a normie

deprogrammed not programmed hwat

He's right to some extent -- a large portion of the population will accept whatever the ruling class promulgates (with some exceptions).

^

The moment you think you don't have <:avtism:359037377919844352> is the moment you become a normie.

We don't need to convince *everyone*. And if/when we gain power, and manage to hold onto it, after decades people will just go along with it.

Its the only solution, "The Beginning Problem"

welcome @total_moot !

@Perihelion - CA Lol YES.

But again, the danger therein lies with saying "well if we don't need to win over everyone may as well not worry about optics" etc.

I personally don't think we need to convince *anyone*. If we just focus on improving ourselves and the optics of our movement, people will naturally gravitate to our side imo. As soon as we try to convince people of something they will retaliate.

Yeah, normie isn't about opinions, it's about whether you do or don't have the ability to be objective and buck the status quo

Always be careful when talking about normies, you never know if one is around and could hear you. They will start to resent your degradation of their normie-dom, and they will plot the day when they can use their normie network to subvert you. Lesson being: *Always* be nice to a *normie*

If you are in this group your not a normee. If you don't question authority your a normee

Optics is better at convincing most people than logic/debating

^

@Reinhard Wolff you basically summed up what I'm saying. I was making the point that to be populistic AT THE CURRENT TIME wouldn't be smart because we'd have to change or dilute our beliefs.

Normal people are everywhere

Around normies never be stormies

FACTS and LOGIC to save the white race

And I'm not saying don't grow and branch out

"to be populistic" is vague

You could do a lot of good just pointing out euro heritage, traditions, and culture in America.

No, to them, Facts and Logic is Your propaganda.

What we want are people who are normal in character and emotions, but extraordinary in will power and thinking

women will want to join the movement when they realize their white children are despised by society

If you mean stop talking about more controversial subjects, I agree. There's already a Trump movement, but the amount of people doing what we are is much smaller.

@Reinhard Wolff it was something Ian said about the AR. I don't even know how it let to this big conversation tbh.

@Gibson, use mockery with your enemies, not your friends. Keep it civil here.

Wasn't my intent

You ever notice how a lot of government funding goes to *normal* activities? Coincidence much?

Well, we can agree to disagree to a certain point.

@NateDahl76 wasnt mocking anyone chief

I think you need both approaches. Good cop bad cop on social level.

IE is definitely good cop

IE is the best cop

TRS is bad cop

Never heard of TRS

trs is fun cop

Lol there's worse than TRS

The Right Stuff

@Sam Southern - TN was going to say this.

it means tourettes syndrome

ty @Logan

TRS is barely down the rabbit hole

Fun posting is super important but it doesn't have to all happen here.

TRS is for entertainment purposes. Nothing wrong with listening to it imo just don't make TRS memes your entire personality

They are kind of a downer lately. Strike and Mike and FTN are just getting me angery and it isn't fun or productive after the election.

TRS huh? Oh what's this? "Facism the Nation"? "The Daily Holocaust"? Not sure how I feel about that.