@Sherlock Are we Dixie posting?

Well I'm a good ol rebel

Haha no I’m just saying that secession would make everyone happier

Now that's just what I am

https://blog.therightstuff.biz/2018/10/28/a-message-to-the-american-left/

@Sherlock agreed

The south would be a totally viable nation

@Freiheit - CA cool, i have to do like one more orientation thing and after that i think i can start helping with that stuff, i used to put up ads for guitar lessons so i actually have a kit i made for it

The large *ahem* Bantu population would be a question

If we split off as a region rather than as individual states we’d be super powerful

@american_frankenstein Would be happy to have you.

i'm in marin county next to SF

Well they’re a question now so that wouldn’t change

I mean if something like 30% of your nation state is black

rather than 12% now

At least we wouldn’t have to worry about NY and Cali screwing everything up for us

We don't wheat paste, we only use non-permanent adhesive, like tape. I would, however, value your expertise.

Yes Southrons know the issue unlike smug coastal elites

And the other thing is that NY and Cali would be much happier as well. It’s a total win win which is why i dont get that it’s such a taboo topic

It's probably not taboo talking to Cali libs

It's probably only taboo to unaware centrists who are spooked by the concept of secession

I know they had their little freedom movement post Trump

Which unfortunately did not amount to anything

Cali can't afford to be isolated.

Their economic strength is hammered without being the American tech hub/Port of LA

yeah awesome, would love to help. i think i do the orientation in about a week and a half, i did the 2 interviews and after that i think i can start actually helping after the pledge phase

USA and Cali would certainly still trade. In fact both sides would benefit keeping the arrangement as close to statehood as possible

and their economic momentum s the only reason their society hasn't descended into chaos as of now.

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Exactly, we could and should maintain cooperative economies, that’s to everyone’s benefit, but we would all be much happier behaving as separate countries

-Wear sunscreen before using computer 😉
@Selma

I actually do that every day

No joke

@Sherlock One day.....

Damn i wonder how much ive aged myself by being in front of a computer

Make sure to exercise and stretch out at least twice a week

or your spine can start to curl

I’m at a bar for my job rn and there’s a white middle aged man with an iPad playing Pokémon go watching the redskins game with extreme interests <:sad:366743316475281408>

Lord have mercy

If you eat enough lycopene and olive oil and vitamin A, your skin develops a higher resistance to blue light and sun light. I don't mean to derail anything! Do carry on.

You know what they say about weak men and their hard times

I see here strong men

@VinceChaos On the upside, I doubt he's contributing to the gene pool

Hooray for eugenics!

I can’t tell but yeah

The thing is he probably did have kids

@Selma I drink olive oil by the gallon.

I was a greek in a past life

Tyrone Blackman scored

Cause back in his day we still had norms such that basically any man who wanted to could

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@Tyler0317 I'm not sure that a region dominated by blacks would be a "totally viable nation".

Dominated?

Dominated? more like occupied

compared to other parts of the country, yes

They would be like 30% bruh

White southerners would deal with the issue better without Yanks controlling them

We’re not dominated by them

We carry them

@Ald Somehow I doubt losing Cali as a US state would have any impact on our economy. California's "money machine" is largely virtual - they don't actually make anything tangible or tradeable. It's all mostly advertising, where the product they sell is people and their personal information to advertisers and other companies. Further, the big companies that _do_, in fact, sell physical products have all their stuff made in China anyways, then import it to sell in the states. Then there's the fact that these companies generally hold their money in foreign localities where they set up satellite corporate offices to take advantage of tax laws there - because they would suffocate under the tax obligations imposed by California.

Then let's not forget that CA is the state most in-debt to the Federal government - their MediCal is subsidized by the entire rest of the country, as well as all their other social welfare programs.

Media likes to spin CA as "USA's biggest economy and money maker", but the real truth is California isn't even self sufficient. Oh, and good luck to them getting water and electricity on the cheap after secession, like they do now.

I don't mean dominated in that way <:really:453005408064241674>

but if you look at demographic maps by race, the south has most of them

It would need to be a priority for an independent South

I don’t see how secession would make our black population any worse

We have them now and we’d have them then

but you belong to a country where they're less than half overall what they are there

it would be a more self contained concentrated question

socio politically

i think it's in european genes and culture to be giving and it is what has caused the problems we have today because the people we given to have walked all over us

I just don’t see how that aspect would change at all

If CA were to secede, their big money maker e-companies can simply just move their HQ's (and will) right next door to Washington, Oregon, or Nevada. It wouldn't even be difficult, because they'd just be moving computer servers and no manufacturing or production systems.

The numbers of blacks would be identical

They'd be more of a thing at the national level

Plus if we are sovereign again we would have an easier time handling things like welfare

That's the argument

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Oh you mean in terms of voting power

Yeah that would suck but i think it would work out anyway because we would be better able to remove the illegal population which is the bigger threat longterm

I mean if you think in terms of Georgia governor races, which if we seceded would be equivalent to presidential races, the races have only been close in very recent times, due to immigration

Remaining somewhat optics friendly what would be the idea long term for the black population

Cause it's sub ideal to have that presence and voting power indefinitely

Their own place?

Of course there’s always going to Black people in America. And black people already have their own places because they always choose to associate with other black people in black areas.

The thing is, is we don’t want to take in anymore African immigrants.

I think ultimately they shouldn't be in the same polity

They can be in North America but they should be nationally separate

Really the main problem we have right now is blacks being coerced into white areas and white communities

It would be best for both parties

The ideal solution is blacks having their own independent territory somewhere but that’s probably never going to happen

Or at least not anytime soon

So idk what the more realistic solution is

@Sherlock Absolute freedom of association.

It's not what we should be saying right now as like *the solution* but it's the ideal to move toward

The more realistic solution is a segregation system.

@Sherlock That's a good short term solution.

Why would we go back to what got us here

*jared tayler voice* “freedom of association”

Segregation never works long term

@NITRODUBS Exactly!

I don’t know about that William. Segregation improved both black and white societies.

@Ald That's why it's a short term solution.

I mean in terms of racial survival