You know what they say about weak men and their hard times

I see here strong men

@VinceChaos On the upside, I doubt he's contributing to the gene pool

Hooray for eugenics!

I can’t tell but yeah

The thing is he probably did have kids

@Selma I drink olive oil by the gallon.

I was a greek in a past life

Tyrone Blackman scored

Cause back in his day we still had norms such that basically any man who wanted to could

"Good GOD, George! You said you were just going to the grocery store! Where WERE you all night?!"
" - hic* i cOt a shInY PiKaMon gimme a kiss"

@Tyler0317 I'm not sure that a region dominated by blacks would be a "totally viable nation".

Dominated?

Dominated? more like occupied

compared to other parts of the country, yes

They would be like 30% bruh

White southerners would deal with the issue better without Yanks controlling them

We’re not dominated by them

We carry them

@Ald Somehow I doubt losing Cali as a US state would have any impact on our economy. California's "money machine" is largely virtual - they don't actually make anything tangible or tradeable. It's all mostly advertising, where the product they sell is people and their personal information to advertisers and other companies. Further, the big companies that _do_, in fact, sell physical products have all their stuff made in China anyways, then import it to sell in the states. Then there's the fact that these companies generally hold their money in foreign localities where they set up satellite corporate offices to take advantage of tax laws there - because they would suffocate under the tax obligations imposed by California.

Then let's not forget that CA is the state most in-debt to the Federal government - their MediCal is subsidized by the entire rest of the country, as well as all their other social welfare programs.

Media likes to spin CA as "USA's biggest economy and money maker", but the real truth is California isn't even self sufficient. Oh, and good luck to them getting water and electricity on the cheap after secession, like they do now.

I don't mean dominated in that way <:really:453005408064241674>

but if you look at demographic maps by race, the south has most of them

It would need to be a priority for an independent South

I don’t see how secession would make our black population any worse

We have them now and we’d have them then

but you belong to a country where they're less than half overall what they are there

it would be a more self contained concentrated question

socio politically

i think it's in european genes and culture to be giving and it is what has caused the problems we have today because the people we given to have walked all over us

I just don’t see how that aspect would change at all

If CA were to secede, their big money maker e-companies can simply just move their HQ's (and will) right next door to Washington, Oregon, or Nevada. It wouldn't even be difficult, because they'd just be moving computer servers and no manufacturing or production systems.

The numbers of blacks would be identical

They'd be more of a thing at the national level

Plus if we are sovereign again we would have an easier time handling things like welfare

That's the argument

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Oh you mean in terms of voting power

Yeah that would suck but i think it would work out anyway because we would be better able to remove the illegal population which is the bigger threat longterm

I mean if you think in terms of Georgia governor races, which if we seceded would be equivalent to presidential races, the races have only been close in very recent times, due to immigration

Remaining somewhat optics friendly what would be the idea long term for the black population

Cause it's sub ideal to have that presence and voting power indefinitely

Their own place?