We have them now and we’d have them then

but you belong to a country where they're less than half overall what they are there

it would be a more self contained concentrated question

socio politically

i think it's in european genes and culture to be giving and it is what has caused the problems we have today because the people we given to have walked all over us

I just don’t see how that aspect would change at all

If CA were to secede, their big money maker e-companies can simply just move their HQ's (and will) right next door to Washington, Oregon, or Nevada. It wouldn't even be difficult, because they'd just be moving computer servers and no manufacturing or production systems.

The numbers of blacks would be identical

They'd be more of a thing at the national level

Plus if we are sovereign again we would have an easier time handling things like welfare

That's the argument

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Oh you mean in terms of voting power

Yeah that would suck but i think it would work out anyway because we would be better able to remove the illegal population which is the bigger threat longterm

I mean if you think in terms of Georgia governor races, which if we seceded would be equivalent to presidential races, the races have only been close in very recent times, due to immigration

Remaining somewhat optics friendly what would be the idea long term for the black population

Cause it's sub ideal to have that presence and voting power indefinitely

Their own place?

Of course there’s always going to Black people in America. And black people already have their own places because they always choose to associate with other black people in black areas.

The thing is, is we don’t want to take in anymore African immigrants.

I think ultimately they shouldn't be in the same polity

They can be in North America but they should be nationally separate

Really the main problem we have right now is blacks being coerced into white areas and white communities

It would be best for both parties

The ideal solution is blacks having their own independent territory somewhere but that’s probably never going to happen

Or at least not anytime soon

So idk what the more realistic solution is

@Sherlock Absolute freedom of association.

It's not what we should be saying right now as like *the solution* but it's the ideal to move toward

The more realistic solution is a segregation system.

@Sherlock That's a good short term solution.

Why would we go back to what got us here

*jared tayler voice* “freedom of association”

Segregation never works long term

@NITRODUBS Exactly!

I don’t know about that William. Segregation improved both black and white societies.

@Ald That's why it's a short term solution.

I mean in terms of racial survival

Segregation has never worked for us

You know *who* is what disbanded segregation

This is a very theoretical conversation