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2018-06-13 06:38:28 UTC


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2018-06-13 18:19:57 UTC

You can always count on YT subtitles to take a serious conversation in an altogether different direction. πŸ˜›

2018-06-13 18:20:06 UTC

Ducks have rights, too

2018-06-13 18:20:48 UTC

The right to be served with a nice cranberry sauce

2018-06-13 18:45:57 UTC

Duck rights weren't something on my radar until I found out about foie gras.

2018-06-13 18:53:40 UTC

what kind of question is that? with your stomach?

2018-06-13 18:53:53 UTC

"Are you with the gays or do you like not starving" is how that sounds

2018-06-13 19:11:08 UTC


2018-06-13 19:36:03 UTC


2018-06-13 20:30:24 UTC

Oh good, I was worried salad had been misrepresented in imojis.

2018-06-13 20:44:07 UTC

I can only assume we're talking head first here.

2018-06-13 20:51:16 UTC

"he little boy wore a diaper and pyjamas, but he had his legs and abdomen stuck in the woman’s vagina"

2018-06-13 20:52:05 UTC

"The babysitter was interrogated by police and confessed to deliberately inserting the child in her vaginal cavity.

She explained that she was feeling depressed after her doctor told her she could never have children and wanted to know how it felt to give birth."

the onion got competition

2018-06-13 20:52:43 UTC

I don't know whether to be glad this isn't some kind of fetish scenario....

2018-06-13 20:54:05 UTC

Is it bad that I want to say, "It's the wrong hole to be considered shitposting" and then ask this question?

2018-06-13 20:54:09 UTC

plot twist, the story of how someone get a vore fetish

2018-06-13 21:55:02 UTC

Very interesting article this one

2018-06-13 21:56:16 UTC

That guy who got fired does not sound so bad in that article imo

2018-06-13 22:51:38 UTC

He doesn't to me either, but my approach to transgenderism is: We can't completely change a person's gender. If we can find a way to make a person comfortable in their own body before transition, try it. If it doesn't work, go for transition, but watch out if the person gets the "uncanny valley" effect with that person's own body.

2018-06-13 23:03:17 UTC

Hi Tim πŸ˜ƒ

2018-06-13 23:10:36 UTC

as a transgender person myself, i actually find people who avocate for transitioning children to be very disturbing

2018-06-13 23:11:28 UTC

they are kinda ruining the image of transgenderism, not to mention all the other problems weve had in the last 10 years

2018-06-13 23:13:57 UTC

i think theres to much involvement of psychology in children in general

2018-06-13 23:14:31 UTC

i mean beyond very frenge cases of children acting far far far beyond what we can manage in society i think psychology should stay away from them

2018-06-13 23:15:09 UTC

its a developmental phase, weird unnatural ideas influincing that developmental phase is dangerous

2018-06-14 00:25:25 UTC

another youtuber running for a government position

2018-06-14 00:53:49 UTC


2018-06-14 01:00:36 UTC

i like it

2018-06-14 02:27:38 UTC


2018-06-14 04:34:31 UTC


2018-06-14 05:07:20 UTC


2018-06-14 05:07:45 UTC

@ZetaBlues I think that needs to go into fake news.

2018-06-14 05:10:29 UTC

I can't tell if it's parody or not

2018-06-14 05:12:11 UTC

Can't be real; he didn't land on a porcupine

2018-06-14 05:15:02 UTC

Can't be real. The crowd didn't applause.

2018-06-14 05:43:55 UTC

fuckin brutal

2018-06-14 13:32:17 UTC

i clicked that video hoping it was about wizards, not sure why im so neive early in the morning

2018-06-14 13:32:54 UTC

and now you are wishing for brain bleach i imagine

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2018-06-14 14:36:48 UTC

I refuse to believe this, really.

2018-06-14 14:41:18 UTC

Helen confirmed it, I'm trying to find the tweet

2018-06-14 14:51:16 UTC

Remember what Sargon said. If he gets a hair on his head hurt, the state is gonna get it.

2018-06-14 14:51:29 UTC

And it won't be just a bunch of hooligans either.

2018-06-14 14:58:37 UTC

think about the crowds who have been out to support him. then it comes out he is injured or even killed. He would become a martyr. It would fuel those who are actually racist and increase pressure from people who don't even like him and think his current imprisonment is bullshit. It would probably be the single dumbest move a politician could make.

2018-06-14 15:09:14 UTC

Socialism works, totally


2018-06-14 15:14:26 UTC


2018-06-14 15:14:28 UTC

Let them fight

2018-06-14 15:14:38 UTC

Sargon vs Warski in Arc

2018-06-14 17:00:28 UTC

Couldn't you compare the transgender children debate to children/teens who want plastic surgery?

2018-06-14 17:02:45 UTC

Also why wouldn't the parents want their child to be cisgender or at least be really sure about the whole thing? Being trans sucks, you can't have children, you will be dependent on medication for the rest of your life, you forfeit some of the functionality of the natural grown sexual organs and then there is of course the stigma.

2018-06-14 17:04:33 UTC


2018-06-14 17:04:38 UTC

lol i doubt this is true but its funny

2018-06-14 17:06:47 UTC

@LEER they are trying to fight the stigma by trying to treat this as normal as someone being gay. And blame stuff like the suicide rate as being caused by bullying alone, hence the whole "speech is violence" aspect of things around such topics. And since they want to rewrite science, the rest of what you just said is clearly transphobic

2018-06-14 17:08:05 UTC

@zero_consequences That was confirmed absolute bullshit.

2018-06-14 17:08:23 UTC

lmao ok

2018-06-14 17:17:58 UTC

That is contradictory. If you experience no distress over your gender, you don't experience gender dysphoria so it is debatable whether you should irreversably change your body. And I wouldn't wish gender dysphoria upon any person, so I will be hoping that it is just a phase, because there ARE indeed people for whom it is a phase.

2018-06-14 17:25:24 UTC

in the minds of these people, a boy wanting to wear a dress means he doesn't like having a penis.

2018-06-14 17:26:37 UTC

because they are more afraid of being wrong that it is just a phase then they are of irreversibly damaging their kid... because to call it "just a phase", in their mind, is irreversibly damaging.

2018-06-14 17:27:31 UTC

these parents have been whipped up into such a frenzy of fear.

2018-06-14 17:27:43 UTC

I bet most transpeople wish they started sooner though

2018-06-14 17:27:48 UTC

We're experience reverse Mulanism. Our culture favors girls, so boys want to be girls.

2018-06-14 17:28:14 UTC

They get more attention and millenials are fucking starved for it.

2018-06-14 17:28:43 UTC

and society has moved away from a parenting as a duty to prepare your child to live on their own in the world towards protecting our kids from the world.

2018-06-14 17:28:56 UTC

look at how over time the age to do things has been raising

2018-06-14 17:29:17 UTC

smoking, drinking, soon to buy a firearm

2018-06-14 17:30:28 UTC

an effort to keep people perpetually as children.

2018-06-14 17:31:12 UTC

and when their child finally gets big enough that they have no choice but to let them out in the world, they turn to the state to keep treating them as children and replace their roll as a parent.

2018-06-14 17:41:12 UTC

I am quite unsure how this relates to the transgender children debate

2018-06-14 18:32:21 UTC

as a transperson who hasent even started yet, no i dont wish i started sooner. if trans people value phyical apperence so much they are willing to threaten the development of children for aesthetics, even being the children themselves who dont know the value of their growing up actually has on them yet, then i find that to be a very big problem. im personally against vanity, while i do have a value for aesthetics because that is part of my reasons for wanting to look a different way (not to metnion all the gender norms you get with looking a different way (which people are destroying ironicly while supporting trans)) i dont hold it higher than the life i experinced before my neural structure fully developted between the ages of 18 and 25. if you fuck with that stuff its going to have an effect we CANNOT fully predict yet and it doesent matter what you feel regardless of your age, adults who allow children to fuck with that even concentually is child abuse. at best even if we fully understood it, it would be neurological engineering which is fucking unethical AF

2018-06-14 18:32:44 UTC
2018-06-14 18:43:50 UTC

neurological engineering was made up by the cis-patriarchy

2018-06-14 18:49:48 UTC

isn't being trans also made up by the cis-patriarchy? πŸ˜›

2018-06-14 19:15:33 UTC

I deliberately chose the word 'most'. There will always be the transpeople who feel like their suffering is too much and who don't care about something like this.

2018-06-14 19:51:28 UTC

Is it safe?

2018-06-14 20:03:20 UTC

Whoa, I just subscribed to Desi-Rae Thinking on Youtube, and a recommended list of channels to subscribe to popped up


2018-06-14 23:22:24 UTC

So, I just thought of something. Why should Blackface be condemned, when Drag Queens are celebrated?

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2018-06-14 23:28:22 UTC

can't remember where it happened but I recall Drag being banned from some event over fear it may offend trans people

2018-06-14 23:29:02 UTC

because black people are scarier than women obviously

2018-06-14 23:46:50 UTC

guess its time to ban Pride Month for fear of offending the majority

2018-06-14 23:46:51 UTC

Back bois

2018-06-15 01:40:04 UTC

Jim carrey is turning into an Anti-vaxxer

2018-06-15 01:41:56 UTC

he missed the part where its too much mercury in fish is dangerous.

2018-06-15 01:42:41 UTC

if you are injecting thimerosol into your kid at the same level as you get mercury from certain fish, i would certainty call CPS on you.

2018-06-15 01:43:07 UTC

turning into one? when he started dating jenny mccarthy he went bonkers

2018-06-15 01:44:02 UTC

too be fair, when was he not bonkers really?

2018-06-15 01:45:59 UTC

Give him a movie so he can work it out of his system

2018-06-15 01:51:28 UTC

man on the moon 2: 2 the moon

2018-06-15 06:02:53 UTC
2018-06-15 06:03:22 UTC

Man, I used to buy a damned Fat Pack every time one came out.

2018-06-15 06:04:04 UTC

Since The Quartering got banned for posting Dank Pepes on twitter, Hasbro can go fuck themselves.

2018-06-15 06:04:36 UTC

That's just an extra 50 bucks that I'm not spending on card games.

2018-06-15 06:06:47 UTC

I think you can buy Summoner Wars Master set for that. That's more fun out of the box

2018-06-15 06:08:18 UTC

Oh wait, nope, you can't buy it for $50 anymore

2018-06-15 06:20:49 UTC

yeah i witnessed that whole banning, too, and i have substantially minimized my spending on mtg, too. i just draft every few weeks now, no buying of booster boxes

2018-06-15 06:45:30 UTC

To be fair if you used to always buy fatpacks you now have plenty to go around and still enjoy the game

2018-06-15 07:50:31 UTC

Meh, I lost interest. I used to help out in a comic book shop introducing people to the game, I was BIG on Magic. Now, I don't like supporting a game that, should my political leanings be called into question, I would be banned from playing officially.

2018-06-15 07:56:54 UTC

Besides, between that and Comics going full SJW, the shops where you usually go for that sort of shit become a fair bit unwelcoming, anyway.

2018-06-15 08:22:29 UTC

Thats a good description of them. They're "nice" enough but I'll never make a friendship at any of them because its all about what *you* can do to make them comfortable. I don't go there to work and I sure as hell don't get paid to be nice.

2018-06-15 08:27:40 UTC


2018-06-15 11:21:52 UTC

anyone shoot shotgun slugs regularly?

2018-06-15 11:21:56 UTC

I got a strange idea

2018-06-15 11:22:09 UTC

most slugs suck dicks through smoothbores

2018-06-15 11:22:41 UTC

and I was thinking, how to cause spin stabilization with zero rifling

2018-06-15 11:23:27 UTC

What if I modified the "wadding" base to make it spin as it's going down the bore?

2018-06-15 11:23:38 UTC

or even, how could I reliably do that?

2018-06-15 11:24:18 UTC

I was thinking if I made the wad two pieces, one half being technically a gas delayed blowback

2018-06-15 11:24:23 UTC

that was on a literal screw

2018-06-15 11:25:42 UTC

You have two pieces for the base that attaches to the slug, one which is the bottom that is extremely oversized, above 2mil or so

2018-06-15 11:25:56 UTC

that has a "Screw" in the center

2018-06-15 11:26:02 UTC

And gas ports

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then the base that attaches to the slug itself

2018-06-15 11:26:40 UTC

with an inside threaded hole that the screw goes into

2018-06-15 11:27:18 UTC

and the slug and wadding would not be super oversized, maybe exactly at bore size

2018-06-15 11:27:28 UTC

so the gas would fill this "Chamber"

2018-06-15 11:27:32 UTC

and it would want to expand

2018-06-15 11:27:56 UTC

and it'd twist (if the forces can be made to align correctly)

2018-06-15 11:28:07 UTC

then it would spin

2018-06-15 11:28:31 UTC

so it's self-propelled?

2018-06-15 11:30:12 UTC

that looks like it's fin stabilized

2018-06-15 11:30:24 UTC

which is a totally different and even more painful beast

2018-06-15 11:30:34 UTC

spin is super easy if you can get it to work right

2018-06-15 11:30:44 UTC

I just like loading 12ga

2018-06-15 11:30:58 UTC

it's super easy and there's a lot of room for mistakes

2018-06-15 11:31:38 UTC

I don't see the need in dedicating a shotgun to shooting slugs (i.e. rifled barrel)

2018-06-15 11:32:00 UTC

and the rifled chokes only work with some things consistently, not all things

2018-06-15 11:32:46 UTC

so if I could design a gas delayed wadding that can kinda work and provide enough stabilization to give consistent 2moa groups at 100 out of a smoothbore

2018-06-15 11:32:51 UTC

that'd be fuckng amazing

2018-06-15 11:33:56 UTC

my worry is that you need to counter the weight of the slug in the bore

2018-06-15 11:34:04 UTC

it is self propelled and shot out of a normal shotgun

2018-06-15 11:34:05 UTC

otherwise the bottom would just spin

2018-06-15 11:35:31 UTC

I don't think a 3d printer could make something that'll do this right

2018-06-15 11:35:45 UTC

maybe I could try it on lower pressure loads initially

2018-06-15 11:39:40 UTC

I wonder how I would be able to simulate shit like this

2018-06-15 11:40:08 UTC

Fluid dynamics and physics

2018-06-15 11:40:53 UTC

warez solidworks or some shit

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2018-06-15 12:41:11 UTC

What a debacle. This is what happens when you put Sweden in charge of a game.

2018-06-15 12:55:23 UTC
2018-06-15 13:03:00 UTC

It no longer works cuz the new parents don't understand it cuz they didnt get that parenting themselves

2018-06-15 13:12:48 UTC

I think it becomes clear when the author makes excuses for not wanting a schedule. Kids are smart. If they see parents don't have power over themselves, why respect them trying to have power over you?

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2018-06-15 13:42:56 UTC

Raising kids is almost like owning a dog tbh. The other will just get by on their own after some years if you raise them well

2018-06-15 13:51:20 UTC


@Timcast this seems related to leftists white supremacist. Apparently there is a branch of feminism that believes your sexual preference is a choice. only instead of it being homosexuality that is the choice, its heterosexuality.

2018-06-15 13:51:54 UTC

LOL ^^^

2018-06-15 13:58:40 UTC

7.3k to go

2018-06-15 14:35:09 UTC

he's already at 3,547/10000 now

2018-06-15 15:19:43 UTC

@Rikhards I agree. Dogs are durable like that.

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2018-06-15 17:40:46 UTC

lol hard arizona. distrust the government much.

2018-06-15 17:43:44 UTC

id like to see that map with %s of the total population of antivaxers in the united states rather than just population compared to the state, just for comparison

2018-06-15 17:44:17 UTC

might notice how many low population states are high on that map

2018-06-15 17:45:05 UTC

it would give a more accurate map of antivaxer distribution to

2018-06-15 19:14:05 UTC

i wonder what the abortion debate would be like if we layed eggs

2018-06-15 19:15:50 UTC

pretty much the same issue,

only difference is that its easier to perform

2018-06-15 19:17:36 UTC

thing is any animal that lays eggs has to lay them regardless if they are fertalized or not, though i supose they would just choose not to incubate

2018-06-15 19:17:54 UTC

might actually not even be an abortion debate in that case

2018-06-15 19:38:38 UTC

Isn't the abortion debate about considering it murder to kill the zygote?

2018-06-15 20:25:53 UTC

I think so

2018-06-15 20:30:16 UTC

Yeah I posted about this yesterday. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

2018-06-15 20:57:55 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6GA4dMZw4 this is an interesting video

2018-06-15 23:40:54 UTC

When I agreed with him about the campus stuff I felt gross.

2018-06-15 23:54:54 UTC

I'm a hopping mad left-handed duckhunter

2018-06-15 23:57:48 UTC

i agree with him on most things ive seen up to half way through the video because i didint watch beyond that (stuff to do n shit). though i would personally like to get into him on native americans, colonialism, and the united states because fundomentally i disagree with him on the united states to some degree though perhaps we could make a compramise, i actually see ethnonationalism being something that should be a european fight and not an american fight, i think ultimately america should be held to different standards simply due to how much of a fuckup the united states is.

2018-06-15 23:59:49 UTC

north america is the first supplimentary population of its magnitiude in recorded history

2018-06-16 00:00:21 UTC

we also made it worse with slavery

2018-06-16 00:01:09 UTC

by fuck up you mean melting pot ? lol

2018-06-16 00:06:54 UTC

Our story is only different regarding slavery because we didn't use far-off colonies to have slaves on, instead they were in our homeground estates, where they were semi-integrated into a white culture. It was very much a part of our economy.

2018-06-16 00:16:16 UTC

fuck up i mean the first successful genocide of an entire contanent to supplament a popuiation with another. a fuckup where now the dominant population of north america is one without genetic ties to its envirnemnt and would suffer for that without technology and ultimately adapt features of that native population. a fuckup where we enslaved another population, breed that population to a great degree until it was a fraction of the total contanental population, and then once we admited its unethical nature released them into the new geography where they had NO CHANCE IN HELL to compete with the dominant population economicly due to the native population having heritible wealth and experince with far more advanced technology and a resentment for that freed population but unable to justify getting rid of them because that would also be unethical as that former slave population contributed to the contanental prosparitiy

2018-06-16 00:17:16 UTC

the united states and canada cant opperate on any other rules than a melting pot because we have no justification for not opperating as a melting pot that fits withen our morals

2018-06-16 00:17:53 UTC

best we can do is be anti-immigration.

2018-06-16 00:18:35 UTC

i might compramise with taylor to bulkanize north america into different ethnostates with the understanding we cant let this happen again

2018-06-16 00:19:38 UTC

but im also fine with the way things are in north america too so long as we deal with illegal immigration and so long as europe gets its shit together and secures itself from annilation

2018-06-16 00:20:16 UTC

actually australia might also be a case similar to the us

2018-06-16 00:20:38 UTC

australia and new zealand

2018-06-16 00:20:45 UTC

but not a problem for me i dont live there

2018-06-16 00:20:48 UTC

and iceland

2018-06-16 00:30:46 UTC

I think you're mistaking the idea that history didn't just start after 1776. Genocide is nothing new, and undoubtedly there were people in the middle of Asia that will never be in any history book because they were never allowed to be written about. If you think history comes from a howard zinn book you're kidding yourself. And as far as I know, there are still American indians around and their pop hasn't been reduced to zero.

2018-06-16 01:01:18 UTC

We're both speaking in generalities because American history didn't itself start in 1776 anyway. And because we can't blame our founding fathers on what the British and French did to natives and Spain's stain in mexico. Or maybe we can, since europe is just a cancer or whatever it is people believe.

2018-06-16 02:29:34 UTC

i realized it didint happen in 1776, i just let you get away with it. consitering i was talking about the contanent

2018-06-16 04:58:58 UTC

@Arch-Fiend Jared Taylor has made a video on native americans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K84c7NlZzno

2018-06-16 05:03:50 UTC

Americans didn't genocide the natives. diseases killed 90% plus of 2 million native americans and American and Canadian settlers fought for control over territory just like the natives did for centuries before Europeans even arrived the difference is the whites were more successful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL2XX_2tNk8&t=867s

2018-06-16 05:04:11 UTC

Sorry whos claiming the whites genocided them?

2018-06-16 05:04:36 UTC

Arch-fiend claim the natives were genocided.

2018-06-16 05:04:42 UTC

I thought that was kinda not true. The natives were killing each other. Even bought rifles from whites to do it.

2018-06-16 05:05:14 UTC

There were the infected blankets thing. Whether its intentional or not is not observable. Cant claim to know what the people doing it were thinking.

2018-06-16 05:05:48 UTC

They did kill off some belligerant groups however, though I dont think thats genocide, but they did kill natives.

2018-06-16 05:06:02 UTC

Not for their race but cause they were being a nuisance.

2018-06-16 05:06:15 UTC

I mean, who wouldnt?

2018-06-16 05:06:30 UTC

All very true mate.

2018-06-16 05:06:43 UTC

Nah, I think you two just have a different definition of genocide really.

2018-06-16 05:08:56 UTC

I'm bassing my reply on what he said here.


2018-06-16 05:10:13 UTC

Yeahh not gonna take sides. Have a good one,

2018-06-16 05:10:23 UTC

Thanks mate.

2018-06-16 05:13:57 UTC

@Arch-Fiend Even if Americans did genocide the natives North America wasn't the first contanent to have most of it's population be genocided. Africa was the frist, if you don't believe me look up the bantu expansion.


2018-06-16 05:17:24 UTC

you can cover any patch of ground on the world with a coating of lava, and afterwords eventually something will regrow, however if you cover it in concrete and asphalt, its chances of ever regrowing are highly deminished. to say that the native americans are not genocided throws out what actually occured to their native tarritorys which dispite how many of them died to diseases brought to the new world all native american tribes remained up until they were pushed farther and farther west by european encrochment. we know this because we know the names of every tribe in both the west and east north america, if they had all died we would never have learned their names. we also had atleast 3 wars with them, the revolutionary war, the war of 1812, and the indian war (basicly when we got fed up with skermishing them in the west and brought the military to give them the ultimatum to become registered to our country or be exterminated)

2018-06-16 05:18:32 UTC

Yes Europeans did enslave africans but they weren't the frist and whites are the race solely responsible for ending slavery so if you are going to blame a race for slavery why are you blaming the race that ended it? The Arab slave trade enslaved millions more Africans than European slavery did, in fact the barbary slave trade enslaved more whites than there were black slaves in America. https://archive.org/details/TheHiddenHistoryOfArabSlaveTradeOfAfricans

2018-06-16 05:19:41 UTC

it was a genocide, it doesent matter how many people died, we killed the genetic to geographic connection between a group of people to the extent people who had a genetic tie to the entire north america are now religated to less than a quarter of its total landmass and to the most inhospitable locations among it

2018-06-16 05:20:12 UTC

this is the FIRST successful genocide on an entire contanent

2018-06-16 05:20:41 UTC

though one might argue australia did it to but abos have access to 50ish percent last maps i saw

2018-06-16 05:20:53 UTC

mostly because australia is half wasteland

2018-06-16 05:21:34 UTC

Yes Americans did take land from the natives like the natives toke land from each other all the time even before the Europeans arrived the only diffence was the whites were just more successful it wasn't a genocide.

2018-06-16 05:22:09 UTC

it was by all best definitions a genocide

2018-06-16 05:22:38 UTC

the only more successful genocide outside north america was tasmania

2018-06-16 05:22:48 UTC

hey aussie can you define "white genocide" for me?

2018-06-16 05:22:56 UTC

So the natives genocided each other than?

2018-06-16 05:23:48 UTC

on small scales if they ever completely whiped a population out to the extent it never recovered then yes

2018-06-16 05:23:57 UTC

but im mostly talking about the SCALE

2018-06-16 05:24:22 UTC

were not just talking about single countrys and ethnicitys were talking about contanents and core race groups

2018-06-16 05:24:43 UTC

Tasmania wasn't a genocide. The natives in Tasmania lost 90% plus of their population from diseases and they then didn't have a large enough population to keep their population going.

2018-06-16 05:27:10 UTC

you put them into camps after their population dropped from 18000 to just 400. wonder what happened to them in those camps


2018-06-16 05:28:50 UTC

Yes scale is important I agree with you their but their is also intent. If their is a deliberate attempt to wipeout whole or part of a population then it is a genocide. So if their is a massacre lead by a goverment or group of people then that is a genocide.

2018-06-16 05:29:25 UTC

colonization and displacement is genocide my nigga

2018-06-16 05:29:35 UTC

They died out no human population can survive with only 400 people.

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