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2018-06-16 23:39:50 UTC

it's interesting tim thinks it's bullshit. it's kewl. but steem isn't simple as it looks. if you look at the code it's pretty brilliant. you can implent steem blockchain into any wordpress today. cant do that with bitcoin

2018-06-16 23:39:52 UTC

and amazon prime is not competing verywell with netflix

2018-06-16 23:40:00 UTC

plus steem is immuteable

2018-06-16 23:40:02 UTC

Anyone getting the greay shirt? ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-06-16 23:40:07 UTC

tim pool wants to delete his tweet he can

2018-06-16 23:41:02 UTC

also tim launching a merch store without beanies is heresy

2018-06-16 23:41:17 UTC

(yes I understand that' its diffucult) just saying ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-06-16 23:41:19 UTC

twitter... why axactly is it filled with "have you seen this? did you miss that?" posts now? it's annoying AF.

2018-06-16 23:41:20 UTC

you cant delete shit on steem blockchain

2018-06-16 23:41:33 UTC

it's there till end of time.. unlike fb twitter, and centralized, aka, corrupt media

2018-06-16 23:41:51 UTC

as journalist that is powerful tool

2018-06-16 23:41:58 UTC

forget money or followers that is superficial today

2018-06-16 23:43:35 UTC

if you want to interview someone in venezuela who survives of steemit lmk tim i'm sure they would want to tell their story even if just over discords

2018-06-16 23:47:29 UTC

this was an interesting crticial look at steem, goes over a lot of its past problems and shadiness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HseuaDMmGo

2018-06-16 23:49:01 UTC

tldr it has a lot of problems but crypto advocates like it because it's one of the few working real-world usages of blockchain technology

2018-06-16 23:49:19 UTC

in the public

2018-06-16 23:49:53 UTC

@angeryer nothing is perfect but the network isn't shady. You could have talked to the witnesses at the witness forum this morning.

2018-06-16 23:50:07 UTC

Steemit / steem has cons for sure

2018-06-16 23:50:38 UTC

For example delegated proof of stake means voting is weighted upon those with higher usd value. this causes bid bots to be economical. and thus promotional upvotes are sold

2018-06-16 23:50:42 UTC

he goes over some issues at launch that made it seem shady, but they have fixed a lot of the past problems

2018-06-16 23:50:53 UTC

but YOutube also sells for the feed dont they?

2018-06-16 23:50:57 UTC

that's what I meant, not implying it's currently shady

2018-06-16 23:50:59 UTC

we can see with transparency who bought who sold

2018-06-16 23:51:13 UTC

there is shady elements like the bots i mentioned

2018-06-16 23:51:27 UTC

but, its transparent you can eveyone who has paid for bots

2018-06-16 23:51:36 UTC

steembottracker is the tool to see that data

2018-06-16 23:52:31 UTC

@angeryer you are correct about launch too, steem is not distributed well currently . steemit inc has 70% of steem

2018-06-16 23:53:00 UTC

so yes problems exist. Did i say go all in investing ? no. probably be wise to wait till steemit inc distrubution is lower

2018-06-16 23:53:22 UTC

but the system works extremely well as from a creators / dev perspective

2018-06-17 00:02:41 UTC

and the truth about dtube is they totally robbed the commuity, took 25% of everyones video earnings. and pretty much fucked off without maintaining shit.

2018-06-17 00:03:43 UTC

so like i said, probably best to hold back and watch. it will evolve and legit sites will come about, get a track record of not being crappy

2018-06-17 00:04:26 UTC

so tim is right about the spotty ness. but the blog side of things never went through this. it's only gotten better. steemit.com and busy.org

2018-06-17 00:25:04 UTC

How's bitchute?

2018-06-17 00:25:21 UTC

I really liked vidme, too bad it's gone

2018-06-17 00:30:19 UTC

someone bought a kittyface shirt

2018-06-17 00:30:21 UTC

$$$$

2018-06-17 00:31:37 UTC

Cute

2018-06-17 00:32:45 UTC

Is the Knife still trustworthy? I heard rumours about them being owned by a cult

2018-06-17 00:33:02 UTC

By "the knife" I mean the news website

2018-06-17 00:35:11 UTC

i think the knife is a fine source because you can fact check them and see its legit

2018-06-17 00:35:25 UTC

but they are associated with NXIVM

2018-06-17 00:37:01 UTC

@Deleted User i like bitchute but not sure the $$ side of it.. minds.com is interesting but they chose ERC20 . i just hate ERC20...

2018-06-17 00:37:15 UTC

plus minds tokens are still worth zilch

2018-06-17 00:38:56 UTC

bitchute uses torrents for backend. i do love torrents.

2018-06-17 00:39:04 UTC

id say i like bitchute more if they have $$

2018-06-17 01:07:37 UTC

tim can you get some mousepads or something OTHER than a mug/shirt through that?

2018-06-17 01:22:05 UTC

that video is nuts

2018-06-17 01:22:08 UTC

just fyi

2018-06-17 01:34:00 UTC

heres one for you btw

2018-06-17 01:34:14 UTC

29% critics, 91% audience.

2018-06-17 01:34:57 UTC

aslo recommend if you haven't seen it, I might be late to the game here...

2018-06-17 01:48:19 UTC

The only bias I've noticed out of The Knife Media is the standard reporter bias in what they choose to report on and what they choose to ignore

2018-06-17 01:48:43 UTC

But that bias is literally unavoidable unless you have the ability to report on literally everything

2018-06-17 01:55:24 UTC

yeah I mean if something is true, doesn't matter who says it or what their reason is for it

2018-06-17 01:55:37 UTC

unless you're JBP or Sam Harris arguing what truth means.

2018-06-17 02:59:45 UTC

On the topic of Timโ€™s last vid. I find it interesting how much weight some people put into critic scores and such. I donโ€™t really watch movies but for games, I much prefer to see raw gameplay and judge it for myself or ask friends whose tastes I know already before purchasing, and pretty much ignore any journo opinions.

2018-06-17 03:04:17 UTC

I wanna be a games journalist

2018-06-17 03:04:28 UTC

atleast I can FINISH THE FUCKING TUTORIAL

2018-06-17 03:06:14 UTC

hey guys, just joined the discord. didnt know tim had one..

2018-06-17 03:06:54 UTC

Welcome

2018-06-17 03:07:00 UTC

oh god no more

2018-06-17 03:07:02 UTC

I mean

2018-06-17 03:07:03 UTC

Hi, Welcome

2018-06-17 03:07:39 UTC

Fuck off we are full. Jk, welcome

2018-06-17 03:08:12 UTC

I have come to the conclusion that Tim needs to add beanie emotes on the server.

2018-06-17 03:08:37 UTC

there are very few things that Tim cares less about than his discord

2018-06-17 03:08:49 UTC

happy for the warm welcome lmao

2018-06-17 03:09:02 UTC

Adding beanies to the discord he doesn't care about is probably one of them.

2018-06-17 03:09:17 UTC

for sure that ranks lower on the list

2018-06-17 03:09:29 UTC

or higher depending on which way you look at it

2018-06-17 03:09:46 UTC

I also suggest a stoned Tim emote.

2018-06-17 03:11:34 UTC

We dont need to "legitimize" this. His reporting and insight is what people pay for.

2018-06-17 03:12:07 UTC

There's not even a fake news emote...

2018-06-17 03:12:17 UTC

i couldnt even find this discord easily, i had to search for it on youtube. theres no link in his new vids or profile

2018-06-17 03:12:41 UTC

Its an afterthought

2018-06-17 03:12:41 UTC

That's the hazing process

2018-06-17 03:14:59 UTC

I'm not even sure how much thought has actually been given

2018-06-17 03:23:10 UTC

Well its managed by the other guy

2018-06-17 03:23:17 UTC

"managed"

2018-06-17 03:27:48 UTC

We kind of manage ourselves.

2018-06-17 03:28:03 UTC

and actually, it's quite friendly, usually

2018-06-17 03:28:11 UTC

the other two channels are pointless

2018-06-17 03:28:13 UTC

๐Ÿ˜„

2018-06-17 03:28:42 UTC

Each one has their regilars funnily enough

2018-06-17 03:28:52 UTC

Tho I dont see any difference

2018-06-17 03:28:53 UTC

haha, yeah

2018-06-17 03:28:58 UTC

One is barely used and the other is full of Aussies picture things.

2018-06-17 03:29:07 UTC

basically

2018-06-17 03:34:38 UTC

Australia's what happens when you isolate some prisoners on the other side of the world for a hundred years or so

2018-06-17 03:35:44 UTC

on and island that only wants to kill you, between climate, natives, and wildlife.

2018-06-17 03:35:45 UTC

Chads ran by virgins

2018-06-17 03:36:01 UTC

Gaming censorship there is shitty

2018-06-17 05:58:15 UTC

Aussie privilege is real!

2018-06-17 06:18:23 UTC

I'm listening to Erin pizzey, who started the first women's shelter
From what she's saying.....feminism seems like a communist cult

2018-06-17 06:20:42 UTC

she was on that Red Pill documentary, good show

2018-06-17 06:22:46 UTC

I'm listening to the livestream she did with sargon

2018-06-17 09:09:21 UTC

shipping one of your shirts to me would cost me 31 euros for 1 shirt.. so i aint buying one

2018-06-17 09:09:24 UTC

thats just too much

2018-06-17 09:42:18 UTC

I was referring to the games that get banned there.

2018-06-17 09:42:40 UTC

Like only sissies think other people act like sissies

2018-06-17 11:07:58 UTC

i think default liberal is a good way to phrase

2018-06-17 11:08:00 UTC

it

2018-06-17 11:08:15 UTC

im seeing way too many people call migrants "refugees" and "asylum seekers"

2018-06-17 11:08:27 UTC

its like.... dude either you dotn know what youre talking about or youre lying

2018-06-17 11:08:38 UTC

they arent fleeing persecution, they are looking for jobs

2018-06-17 11:16:32 UTC

Thats cuz the media dubs them that i think,

kind of like how Antifa is dubbed anti-fascist, whilst they're being the fascists
Or how "Liberals" are the group of people wanting to get rid of freedom of speech

2018-06-17 11:18:09 UTC

Its what they're called so the majority understands who you refer to,

the large flock of non-europeans moving in, as opposed to any migrant, even say Poles looking for German works

2018-06-17 11:34:39 UTC

antifa is not fascist

2018-06-17 11:35:01 UTC

antifa is authoritarian communist

2018-06-17 11:39:33 UTC

I have to agree with Tim about Antifa. Fascists are nationalists who only care about creating and maintaining an authoritarian goverment while communists aren't nationalistic, well they are when (((they))) run communist parties.

2018-06-17 11:39:37 UTC

whats the difference?

2018-06-17 11:40:03 UTC

Nationalism vs Internationalism

2018-06-17 11:40:10 UTC

Yes bassicly.

2018-06-17 11:43:42 UTC

so what your saying is real fascists lack ambition.

2018-06-17 11:45:41 UTC

Real fascist think their should be a strong authoritarian nationalistic goverment whether it be civic or ethno.

2018-06-17 11:47:48 UTC

Aren't ANTIFA also anarchists?

2018-06-17 11:48:19 UTC

no

2018-06-17 11:48:25 UTC

Maybe they lack ambition, or maybe theyโ€™re more practical. Dominating a nation is easier than dominating the planet.

2018-06-17 11:48:26 UTC

#notall

2018-06-17 11:48:56 UTC

Antifa is a coalition of people who are against fascism.

2018-06-17 11:49:05 UTC

Antifa has all kinds of people. Mostly anarchist though.

2018-06-17 11:49:10 UTC

Antifa started in the Nordic nations and spread to America and even India. I'd say they aren't all that lazy

2018-06-17 11:50:17 UTC

(((They))) are good at spreading bad ideas, just look how far (((they))) spread communism.

2018-06-17 11:53:58 UTC

Itโ€™s important to note that Antifa is a recruitment tactic that communist have used since WW2 . This NYT article covers it.

โ€œ When New York City was the capital of American communism โ€œ by Maurice Isserman on The New York Times Red Century 5/40

Whimsical look back on the highest point of power for communism in America, and its center of power, NYC. It also highlights a communist tactic of using immigrants and Anti-fascist alliances for recruitment. Sounds familiar doesnโ€™t it?

http://archive.today/eFGGl

2018-06-17 12:14:25 UTC

but Antifa recruits for both sides,

they recruit communists on their side, and through their actions they scare people to the opposite faction

2018-06-17 12:16:08 UTC

antifa is not mostly anarchist

2018-06-17 12:16:11 UTC

they are mostly communist

2018-06-17 12:16:15 UTC

some might claim to be anarchists

2018-06-17 12:16:23 UTC

but anarchists, real ones, dont use force against others

2018-06-17 12:16:37 UTC

Isn't antifa Socialist?

since antifa wants a state to solve their things, communists don't want a "state" anymore

2018-06-17 12:16:47 UTC

antifa is literally the name of an organization founded by the communist party of germany in the 1930s

2018-06-17 12:17:03 UTC

(well... the full name is)

2018-06-17 12:17:22 UTC

they are authoritarian communists

2018-06-17 12:17:27 UTC

and the far left is fucking evil

2018-06-17 12:17:32 UTC

they use words like "anti racist"

2018-06-17 12:17:34 UTC

while being racist as fuck

2018-06-17 12:17:47 UTC

and anti fascist while pushing for a drastically similar political situation

2018-06-17 12:18:02 UTC

can't be evil if you're "fighting evil"

Cuz only good fights evil

or something like that :p

2018-06-17 12:18:04 UTC

they change the meaning of words on purpose to confuse the layman

2018-06-17 12:20:48 UTC

the people that founded the german 1980s antifa have either moved on and are anti-antifa now or were complete ideologs from the beginning.

2018-06-17 12:21:44 UTC

I don't think its to "confuse" per say, but more to broaden the definition, because then you get to define the boundries whenver you please

When i say "We" for example, i can mean either we in this chat right now, we on this channel, we as the "sane" people, we as the world, we as humanity

2018-06-17 12:22:22 UTC

this is shown by how they call others racist, but they're not being racist themselves, because they changed the meaning of racism to just be a vague term they can define on a whim

2018-06-17 12:23:11 UTC

and the "confusion" you're talking about is the tactic of STAYING vague,

So that the person who you're trying to convince fills in the gaps themselves

2018-06-17 12:24:30 UTC

it is to confuse people... you take a bad word, broaden the scope, call someone on the fringes of the broadened definition out and the layman assumes that the person called out is part of the initial definition

2018-06-17 12:25:22 UTC

yeah but i don't see that as confusing, i see it as staying vague so a person will fill in the gaps of information themselves

2018-06-17 12:25:41 UTC

Or narrow a bad word to apply to specific kinds of people

2018-06-17 12:25:43 UTC

"they change the meaning of words on purpose to confuse the layman" this is a happy side-effect of post-modernism. you can deconstruct any text to give it any meaning you want.

2018-06-17 12:25:51 UTC

Like "racism"

2018-06-17 12:26:47 UTC

nah... staying vague is not really the same as broaden the meaning of a word, i think

2018-06-17 12:26:48 UTC

like that Jesse Lee Peterson interview where he asks a woman wheres the proof of "white privilege" and she responds with "All around, i just wish i'd seen it before"

And when he asks to define it, she can't, and only gets appalled that he "can't see it"

2018-06-17 12:27:24 UTC

The above audiobook is a great resource for anyone wanting to really understand how we got here.

2018-06-17 12:27:40 UTC

On quora every person "discovering white privilege" seems to have a personal story, and nothing else

2018-06-17 12:27:57 UTC

well its not the same, staying vague is a tactic

You broaden the meaning, but don't define the outer bounds, so that when you don't give any extra information, a layman will use their own definition to apply at what you're pointing to

2018-06-17 12:28:07 UTC

"I was waiting for a taxi with Tyrone and the taxi only stopped for *me*"

2018-06-17 12:29:07 UTC

"I went to a mall with my brown friend and the cashier asked *me* for cash"

2018-06-17 12:30:32 UTC

i'll summerise that audiobook in 1 image for you Atkins ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-06-17 13:19:37 UTC

Have you actually read the book or listened to the audiobook?

2018-06-17 13:20:36 UTC

Because that's not the the summary at all.

2018-06-17 13:37:19 UTC

I didn't bother, but its the gist of Post-modernism is "You can't be an authority on something, because i with my experience might have a different take of events, so your view of things can't be the right one"

aka, "I feel like i'm right, therefore you can't say i'm wrong"

2018-06-17 13:38:19 UTC

aka, like that image

"I can't be WRONG because i have a different viewpoint"

2018-06-17 14:07:43 UTC

thats the problem with pseudo anarchists

2018-06-17 14:07:48 UTC

they think authority doesnt exist

2018-06-17 14:07:53 UTC

it does

2018-06-17 14:08:00 UTC

if a cop says "this area is a frozen zone"

2018-06-17 14:08:05 UTC

like they did in NYC

2018-06-17 14:08:11 UTC

thats total bullshit, they made that up

2018-06-17 14:08:16 UTC

there is no legal frozen zone

2018-06-17 14:08:17 UTC

however

2018-06-17 14:08:33 UTC

when someone is bleeding and a doctor looks at you and says "put pressure on the wound" you say "ok"

2018-06-17 14:08:59 UTC

postmodernists might as well be flat earthers and anti vaxxers

2018-06-17 14:11:34 UTC

Post Modernism would've worked if Cognitive bias didn't exist

2018-06-17 14:13:16 UTC

because the original idea was "well, Science for example keeps changing due to new evidence, so no one can ever be the DEFINITIVE authority on an answer".

Hence we can't discount an idea because the smart guy said he doesn't like it

But people have re-read that as i stated earlier "I see things differently, and since no one can ever be the definitive authority, i feel like my view has merit too, because yours could be just as wrong, hence I get to chose what i believe, and i believe in my things, despite what evidence said because the evidence could turn out to be wrong"

2018-06-17 14:30:28 UTC

There are infinite ways to interpret the world, but only a couple that keep plains in the air, cure cancer sometimes and keep the lights on

2018-06-17 14:30:41 UTC

Cause what you believe you act out

2018-06-17 14:31:17 UTC

Otherwise you just thinking about something

2018-06-17 14:51:06 UTC

the far left is anti science

2018-06-17 14:51:10 UTC

i think even bill maher said it

2018-06-17 14:54:07 UTC

science is dangerous to people that deny that there are biological differences between men and women.

2018-06-17 14:55:09 UTC

(which in itself is a statement that is even more absurd than what flat earthers are saying)

2018-06-17 15:02:30 UTC

>There are no differences between men and women
>Gender dysphoria is real

2018-06-17 15:05:43 UTC

isn't this the video that lindsey shepard got into trouble for?

2018-06-17 15:06:04 UTC

yea

2018-06-17 15:06:16 UTC

its set to the point where this very unwell man claims biological sex doesnt exist

2018-06-17 15:06:45 UTC

It's been a concept ever since the reimer case, actually

2018-06-17 15:07:52 UTC

It's a bit disturbing that this is popular again after the theory of gender being a spectrum was discredited decades ago.

2018-06-17 15:09:37 UTC

youll alos notice that the far left says "unpack" all the time

2018-06-17 15:09:44 UTC

t5ribal language

2018-06-17 15:09:48 UTC

it's fucking dangerous... "hey doctor, we have to treat this patient with a wound in the lower abdomen" - "man or woman?" - "unicorn" ๐Ÿ˜’ (or worse: it says "male" but the organs are female)

2018-06-17 15:10:27 UTC

the only thing you have to unpack is christmas presents

2018-06-17 15:11:22 UTC

I doubt the far left is going to fall anytime soon

2018-06-17 15:11:30 UTC

they control a lot of academia

2018-06-17 15:11:58 UTC

Hell, the true history of feminism has literally been rewritten

2018-06-17 15:19:30 UTC

lets stir the pot shall we ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-06-17 15:22:23 UTC

Gay and Lesbian aren't genders either so drop those too.

2018-06-17 15:22:31 UTC

the drop the b thing though makes sense

2018-06-17 15:22:36 UTC

in fact if 4chan didnt do it would have happened

2018-06-17 15:22:40 UTC

but now they have to disavow it

2018-06-17 15:23:58 UTC

Bisexuals are the new bigots.

2018-06-17 15:26:17 UTC

more like
BIgotsexuals amirite

2018-06-17 15:26:39 UTC

tbh if it does take off, it will be because not enough people

2018-06-17 15:26:45 UTC

doesn't that mean we need more letters now for say trans people who only like other trans people. or should be drop the L and G and just make it like unisexual. since gay is men only, and lesbian is women only, there is people being excluded

2018-06-17 15:26:51 UTC

know about the 4chan thing

2018-06-17 15:26:54 UTC

which is rather likely

2018-06-17 15:27:07 UTC

i mean its not hard to go on a anon website and look to see if there is an OP going on

2018-06-17 15:27:12 UTC

yet somehow they never do..

2018-06-17 15:32:11 UTC

the culture war isn't be won by the left or right. its being won by 4chan.

2018-06-17 15:32:47 UTC

they managed to get all of western society to treat their shitposts like they are serious.

2018-06-17 15:35:39 UTC

lol

2018-06-17 15:35:41 UTC

yup

2018-06-17 15:35:56 UTC

in the podcast today Lior talks about how as long as there is an idea its not a fact

2018-06-17 15:35:57 UTC

so

2018-06-17 15:36:04 UTC

the ok sign DOES mean white power so long as one person claims it does

2018-06-17 15:36:06 UTC

its an opinion

2018-06-17 15:36:18 UTC

I said to him

2018-06-17 15:36:33 UTC

what if there was a photo of you with powered sugar on your face and I said "just a guy with cocaine all over his face"

2018-06-17 15:36:48 UTC

is it my opinion that its cocaine so its not defamation?

2018-06-17 15:36:57 UTC

the OK sign does nto mean white power, that is a fact

2018-06-17 15:37:33 UTC

it can mean both things, to different people

2018-06-17 15:37:45 UTC

like those places in the world where shaking your head means yes

2018-06-17 15:38:04 UTC

or a peace sign is an insult

2018-06-17 15:38:15 UTC

and white powder on your face can also be cocaine

2018-06-17 15:38:17 UTC

prove its not

2018-06-17 15:38:18 UTC

yes

2018-06-17 15:38:21 UTC

Confederate flag is a good example of something meaning different things to different people.

2018-06-17 15:38:30 UTC

actually its a lot more likely to be cocain in my case

2018-06-17 15:39:40 UTC

the idea in my opinion to solve this is rather straightforward and something we all instinctivly do anyway

2018-06-17 15:40:21 UTC

people that signal that the ok sign is not ok (lmao) are not signaling that there is a hidden meaning to the ok sign, but that they are shitlibs

2018-06-17 15:41:19 UTC

and as a result it wont stick, because it doesnt adhere to the subconcsious cultural meaning already established by most people

2018-06-17 15:41:52 UTC

so let them waste their energy pushing something this silly, they wont win against all of western civilization for who this is already well imprinted

2018-06-17 15:42:08 UTC

never interupt your enemy when they'th make a mistake

2018-06-17 15:42:32 UTC

at this point you could argue that the ok sign means white power - just because the meme is so well known that there might be people using it that way... ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-06-17 15:43:30 UTC

hmm i dono

2018-06-17 15:43:41 UTC

from what i gather if they use it that way, its ironicly

2018-06-17 15:44:04 UTC

as in, they are not signalling that they are white supremacists, but that the shitlibs are tards

2018-06-17 15:46:12 UTC

than the peace sign means two genders

2018-06-17 15:46:37 UTC

yes, man and property are the 2 genders

2018-06-17 15:46:45 UTC

thats not as "popular" a meme though

2018-06-17 15:48:26 UTC

and to be clear: i'm not arguing that it means white power, but i can see situations where the argument is valid

2018-06-17 15:49:04 UTC

tbh i think for the vast majority of people they eighter understand it means OK, or they understand that shitlibs are tards and think it means white power when it doesnt

2018-06-17 15:49:11 UTC

also: how i can phrase something as unclear as possible while starting with "to be clear" ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-06-17 15:49:17 UTC

i find it very hard to believe someone actually thinks it means white power

2018-06-17 15:51:15 UTC

the thing is... you can use it that way because people know that it means ok... i should stop trying to explain the way my thinking works ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-06-17 15:54:28 UTC

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