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2018-06-17 12:16:15 UTC  

some might claim to be anarchists

2018-06-17 12:16:23 UTC  

but anarchists, real ones, dont use force against others

2018-06-17 12:16:37 UTC  

Isn't antifa Socialist?

since antifa wants a state to solve their things, communists don't want a "state" anymore

2018-06-17 12:16:47 UTC  

antifa is literally the name of an organization founded by the communist party of germany in the 1930s

2018-06-17 12:17:03 UTC  

(well... the full name is)

2018-06-17 12:17:22 UTC  

they are authoritarian communists

2018-06-17 12:17:27 UTC  

and the far left is fucking evil

2018-06-17 12:17:32 UTC  

they use words like "anti racist"

2018-06-17 12:17:34 UTC  

while being racist as fuck

2018-06-17 12:17:47 UTC  

and anti fascist while pushing for a drastically similar political situation

2018-06-17 12:18:02 UTC  

can't be evil if you're "fighting evil"

Cuz only good fights evil

or something like that :p

2018-06-17 12:18:04 UTC  

they change the meaning of words on purpose to confuse the layman

2018-06-17 12:20:48 UTC  

the people that founded the german 1980s antifa have either moved on and are anti-antifa now or were complete ideologs from the beginning.

2018-06-17 12:21:44 UTC  

I don't think its to "confuse" per say, but more to broaden the definition, because then you get to define the boundries whenver you please

When i say "We" for example, i can mean either we in this chat right now, we on this channel, we as the "sane" people, we as the world, we as humanity

2018-06-17 12:22:22 UTC  

this is shown by how they call others racist, but they're not being racist themselves, because they changed the meaning of racism to just be a vague term they can define on a whim

2018-06-17 12:23:11 UTC  

and the "confusion" you're talking about is the tactic of STAYING vague,

So that the person who you're trying to convince fills in the gaps themselves

2018-06-17 12:24:30 UTC  

it is to confuse people... you take a bad word, broaden the scope, call someone on the fringes of the broadened definition out and the layman assumes that the person called out is part of the initial definition

2018-06-17 12:25:22 UTC  

yeah but i don't see that as confusing, i see it as staying vague so a person will fill in the gaps of information themselves

2018-06-17 12:25:41 UTC  

Or narrow a bad word to apply to specific kinds of people

2018-06-17 12:25:43 UTC  

"they change the meaning of words on purpose to confuse the layman" this is a happy side-effect of post-modernism. you can deconstruct any text to give it any meaning you want.

2018-06-17 12:25:51 UTC  

Like "racism"

2018-06-17 12:26:47 UTC  

nah... staying vague is not really the same as broaden the meaning of a word, i think

2018-06-17 12:26:48 UTC  

like that Jesse Lee Peterson interview where he asks a woman wheres the proof of "white privilege" and she responds with "All around, i just wish i'd seen it before"

And when he asks to define it, she can't, and only gets appalled that he "can't see it"

2018-06-17 12:27:24 UTC  

The above audiobook is a great resource for anyone wanting to really understand how we got here.

2018-06-17 12:27:40 UTC  

On quora every person "discovering white privilege" seems to have a personal story, and nothing else

2018-06-17 12:27:57 UTC  

well its not the same, staying vague is a tactic

You broaden the meaning, but don't define the outer bounds, so that when you don't give any extra information, a layman will use their own definition to apply at what you're pointing to

2018-06-17 12:28:07 UTC  

"I was waiting for a taxi with Tyrone and the taxi only stopped for *me*"

2018-06-17 12:29:07 UTC  

"I went to a mall with my brown friend and the cashier asked *me* for cash"

2018-06-17 12:30:32 UTC  

i'll summerise that audiobook in 1 image for you Atkins 😛

2018-06-17 13:19:37 UTC  

Have you actually read the book or listened to the audiobook?

2018-06-17 13:20:36 UTC  

Because that's not the the summary at all.

2018-06-17 13:37:19 UTC  

I didn't bother, but its the gist of Post-modernism is "You can't be an authority on something, because i with my experience might have a different take of events, so your view of things can't be the right one"

aka, "I feel like i'm right, therefore you can't say i'm wrong"

2018-06-17 13:38:19 UTC  

aka, like that image

"I can't be WRONG because i have a different viewpoint"

2018-06-17 14:07:43 UTC  

thats the problem with pseudo anarchists

2018-06-17 14:07:48 UTC  

they think authority doesnt exist

2018-06-17 14:07:53 UTC  

it does

2018-06-17 14:08:00 UTC  

if a cop says "this area is a frozen zone"

2018-06-17 14:08:05 UTC  

like they did in NYC

2018-06-17 14:08:11 UTC  

thats total bullshit, they made that up