Message from @Timcast
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Thats cuz the media dubs them that i think,
kind of like how Antifa is dubbed anti-fascist, whilst they're being the fascists
Or how "Liberals" are the group of people wanting to get rid of freedom of speech
Its what they're called so the majority understands who you refer to,
the large flock of non-europeans moving in, as opposed to any migrant, even say Poles looking for German works
antifa is not fascist
antifa is authoritarian communist
I have to agree with Tim about Antifa. Fascists are nationalists who only care about creating and maintaining an authoritarian goverment while communists aren't nationalistic, well they are when (((they))) run communist parties.
whats the difference?
Nationalism vs Internationalism
Yes bassicly.
so what your saying is real fascists lack ambition.
Real fascist think their should be a strong authoritarian nationalistic goverment whether it be civic or ethno.
Aren't ANTIFA also anarchists?
no
Maybe they lack ambition, or maybe they’re more practical. Dominating a nation is easier than dominating the planet.
#notall
Antifa is a coalition of people who are against fascism.
Antifa has all kinds of people. Mostly anarchist though.
Antifa started in the Nordic nations and spread to America and even India. I'd say they aren't all that lazy
(((They))) are good at spreading bad ideas, just look how far (((they))) spread communism.
It’s important to note that Antifa is a recruitment tactic that communist have used since WW2 . This NYT article covers it.
“ When New York City was the capital of American communism “ by Maurice Isserman on The New York Times Red Century 5/40
Whimsical look back on the highest point of power for communism in America, and its center of power, NYC. It also highlights a communist tactic of using immigrants and Anti-fascist alliances for recruitment. Sounds familiar doesn’t it?
http://archive.today/eFGGl
but Antifa recruits for both sides,
they recruit communists on their side, and through their actions they scare people to the opposite faction
they are mostly communist
some might claim to be anarchists
but anarchists, real ones, dont use force against others
Isn't antifa Socialist?
since antifa wants a state to solve their things, communists don't want a "state" anymore
antifa is literally the name of an organization founded by the communist party of germany in the 1930s
(well... the full name is)
they are authoritarian communists
and the far left is fucking evil
they use words like "anti racist"
while being racist as fuck
and anti fascist while pushing for a drastically similar political situation
can't be evil if you're "fighting evil"
Cuz only good fights evil
or something like that :p
they change the meaning of words on purpose to confuse the layman
the people that founded the german 1980s antifa have either moved on and are anti-antifa now or were complete ideologs from the beginning.
I don't think its to "confuse" per say, but more to broaden the definition, because then you get to define the boundries whenver you please
When i say "We" for example, i can mean either we in this chat right now, we on this channel, we as the "sane" people, we as the world, we as humanity
this is shown by how they call others racist, but they're not being racist themselves, because they changed the meaning of racism to just be a vague term they can define on a whim
and the "confusion" you're talking about is the tactic of STAYING vague,
So that the person who you're trying to convince fills in the gaps themselves
it is to confuse people... you take a bad word, broaden the scope, call someone on the fringes of the broadened definition out and the layman assumes that the person called out is part of the initial definition
yeah but i don't see that as confusing, i see it as staying vague so a person will fill in the gaps of information themselves
Or narrow a bad word to apply to specific kinds of people