page*

I would have believed them if they responded by saying no.

is allison mack in jail now?

Besides, according to @wacka Tim himself has said there is some kind of connection. Look at how many were members.

Is just weird that I cant find anything about it from a more credible source than that sketchy site

did u stop ur subscription recently?

like after the Elon Musk thing happened?

Its a small story. Besides, it’s not the strangest place to find a cult business. The 12 tribes cult owns a restaurant chain.

because everything that I can find about their "ties" to the cult is very very recent publications

It could be a made up story to discredit Elon Musk

This specific cult ran a school in Miami. Did you read that link I posted @Ivanfr ?

Im not talking about the cult

the cult is real

the ties from TKM to the cult is what I am not convinced about

The Knife stuff has been going around for months. My wife can across it about three months ago.

Right, I understand

I’d really like TKM to make a clear public statement concerning this or, I don’t know, respond to my fucking email about it. I think they do a great job in their reporting. I’d like to support them again, but I’m not until they clear this up.

what I've found is that two semi famous actresses were in the cult and also worked for TKM

Its normal for this cults to pay good money to famous ppl just for publicity

has TKM fired them?

Its suspicious that they havent made a public statement

The logic thing to do is to cut ties with the "contaminated" members inmediatly and make a public statement

I find it hilarious that a sex cult can do better objective reporting than the majority of mainstream news outlets

I know right

for now the nxivm stuff is all allegations

the cult is actually called like SM or something

but its NXIVM members who started it and claim that the guy who started nxivm started SM

so Im trying to avoid doing too much into NXIVM because its dangerous legal territory and not a lot is confirmed

but when they claim the knife is a sex cult because The Knife is run by people in NXIVM and the SM Sex cult has people in NXIVM it looks a bit contrived

though NXIVM sounds culty for sure

The Knife seems objectively ok though, but I do quetion their motives

nearly everything in my recomends and subscriptions is "tommy robinson" or "the UK is over" 😛 talk about the Streisand effect

You should question anyone's motives who tries to be a fact checking source

Yeah, the Knife does great work. It’s the motivations and potential funding of a cult that turns me off.

Who fact checks the fact checkers? Eventually you need some sort of leap of faith.

the media loved being accountable to no one

its a free for all

they all write bullshit about people and dont care

and that's nothing new. it's just easier to notice that because you fact check most things yourself

although I dont think thats anything new, it does seem past time something was done

if its done right I think the "wisdom of crowd" thing will come through... but if its left anonymous or made too easy to set up bot accounts it could backfire

its nothing new,

But i think the breaking point is that more and more truth is available, because of normal people reporting on social media and those that bring it to fight back against the media,

So with that much availability, its easier to notice the media is full of bull, AND you can persuade more people because beforehand it was like "Well do you have any evidence?" and you go "errr....nooo?" and get called a conspiracy theorist,

Now you can just throw the proof at people

Just leave people to choose to be anonymous or named. Both have value.

its a tricky thing to handle tho ... its not like you can just "#fakenews" an article... for example the thing with pewdiepie .. he DID have hitler in some of his videos, he did have the death to jews sign... but the media took it all seriously and out of context... its like... partial truths, without any specific lies

and all that might happen, is they get more clever about only telling truths but still out of context

remember that british journalist that said "gas..." live on camera?

What'a context?

i think that are those thingies you put in your eyes if you don't want to wear glasses

I believe his exact statement/question was "gas the jews 23 times?"

something like that, yes. i mean... he also stated* that context is irrelevant, so... (*or did not agree with the opposite... same difference)

@Deadpool If the guys in the grooming gang not only have no issue with going to jail, but often try to go to jail, then Tommy risking their court case isn't really a valid concern is it? It would be more of a punishment for them if they didn't go to jail, that is what Tommy was pointing out. The fact that they groom/rape people and enjoy the opportunity to recruit in jail is the problem, the problem is definitely not that Tommy may have jeopardise them going to jail, the problem is that they are allowed to remain in the country

Idk, I guess I just don’t really care what The Knife’s motives are. What I really care about is how good the work is, and from what I’ve seen of the Knife I haven’t seen anything bad just yet

everyone has a motive

even subconscious

as long as it's true, does it matter who's mouth it comes out of, really?

fact checking assumed, of course, but if it's actually factually (heh) true.. it shouldn't matter the source, regardless of the motive

peple are driven to "win"

motives often fall onto emotional victory over their enemy or resource gain

completing goals triggers a dopamine response

then you have the sub category of goals

Some people have nothing left to accomplish. No hobbies, fat bellies, so they get their release from beating enemies

From May 2017. The writer gives an account of what it was like to apply for a job with The Knife.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/the-knife-of-aristotle-isnt-just-a-fake-fake-news.html

i dont know if cult fits what they are

maybe secret, but not a secret, society

though im nto surprised the M cult stuff formed out of this group

SM cult*

Interesting read @possumsquat93

You know Charles Mansions cult sprung out of another cult called The Process Church of the Final Judgement. This isn’t exactly unprecedented.

Factual truth is all I really care about when it comes to news. While you'll never going to fully eliminate bias from news, since you automatically create bias by choosing to cover one thing over another, the Knife's done a good job painting objective & largely neutral fact based reporting on issues

They have. I was really impressed with how they covered the Google Memo event. I read and archived dozens of articles from the MSM unfairly covering the memo. The Knife media’s synopsis of this event was perfect.

the knife people alleged that the stories are all fake news meant to damage their organization and that NXIVM is about helping people break out of bias

so they may have started the Knife as a way to combat news they didnt think was fair or accurate

the knife seems fine on the surface but dont let that coax you into joining a cult if thats what they really are

I honestly don't really know anything about NXIVM aside from all this crap I keep seeing about the girl from Smallville

I also don't really care about it. If people wanna willingly join a cult go nuts. Cults aren't my thing, I had enough of them after 12 years of Catholic school

Zing

everyone is all pissed about ICE now sharing photos from Obama admin

wtf

Ive been complaining about oabam before it was cool

Lmao

I didn't really intend that as a zing. I legitimately believe all religions are cults. They're just socially acceptable cults

What's this about ICE photos? Photos of what?

Photos of kids caged in internment camps

Wow, that’s intense

oh you mean the roundup camps that happened about 4-5 years ago?

Yes

yeah that was shit

Thanks Obama.

I was sharing these back when everyone was calling Trump a Nazi and claiming he was gunna build camps to put Muslims & Mexicans

I was like "why would he need to build camps, they already exist"

Besides putting illegal migrants into a detention facility, what else would the expectation be? Just throwing up your hands and saying "come on in, laws and borders are for meanies"?

its not the camps themselves, but the conditions in the camps

Deporting them?

Let children just wander on into the country and vanish into someone's basement?

Why does it take 3 months to deport a person?

The media is way to protective of Obama. Remember how they claimed he had no scandals under his administration? They ignored the NSA spying and the ATF selling guns to Mexican drug cartels. That’s just naming two.

I assume those who don't like laws and borders make the process as drawn out as possible. Rules for radicals tactics. Use the enemy's rules against them.

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

So if there's any appeals process, it gets used in every case.

If there's seven days allowed for a piece of paperwork to be filed, it gets filed at 11PM on the 6th day.

I’m actually reading Rules for Radicals right now. Suddenly a lot of things happening in our country make sense.

Its been a corner stone of post gulf war activism

Sentinel, if you like that you should also read (or listen to) 'Explaining Postmodernism'.

I assume most of the time it takes to deport a person is spent figuring out 3 things: who they are, where they came from and how they got across the border

The audiobook is free on YT.

@Atkins#0416 I’ll check that out. Thanks!

The first third of it is kinda dense on jargon, but if you can get past that the rest is really illuminating.

They may just give up on the third part, but the other two will take awhile considering that its unlikely the detained illegals have any form of ID @Deller

The problem with those 3 things you mentioned blackhawk is that the people don't want you to know who they are or where they came from.

They don't have paperwork and don't talk to you.

Would a regular jail cell not work?

btw, speaking of others will fuck you money, when will Notch become activated?

Why do you need a special camp for these people

Too many of them for regular jails as far as im aware

So set all the pot heads free & legalize weed already

That, and many of them are unaccompanied minors who you don't really want to have around the stabby/rapey types in regular jail.

The illegals can take their place in jail

As they await deportation

There was an article recently which had pictures from a camp for 1,475 unaccompanied children. The pictures showed a hastily constructed camp inside of a warehouse using portable chain-link fences and emergency blankets/bedding.

Sounds better than some FOBs I've lived at.

lol atkins

if its 100% air conditioned its probably a step up

True.

No pissing in a PVC pipe or shit burning.

Tax dollars at work right?

Deller id prefer to have the illegals stay outside of the corrections system if at all possible

Prison reform is hard enough as it is and i think mixing large amounts of illegals into the general population would only complicate things

Im completely ignorant about the situation in detention centers though, perhaps jail would be an improvement over their current situation

im trying to think of a way to better describe immigrants who enter the country illegally or over stay visas

if you say illegal the left will call you right

if you say undocumented the right will call you left

it needs to be not as ofensive by descriptive

but*

Renegade immigrant?

that way the left thinks its cool but it does describe them

https://goo.gl/images/LZF9jq

lol

It always is

Now see, this is where the PC crap is a problem

the legal definition is "illegal alien" on US laws

that's what they should be called because it's a LEGAL designation

the whole undocumented immigrant is PC gone overboard

They're here illegally because they are undocumented. It isn't that far from the truth.

but its a legal term

use it

and actually the official term might also be "unauthorized aliens"

I'm good with that too

While I posted in meme form I was totally serious

oh yea there u go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9n8Xp8DWf8

"U.S. law makes a clear distinction between aliens and immigrants by defining immigrants as a subset of aliens.[9] Although U.S. law provides no overarching explicit definition of the term "illegal alien," the term is used in many statutes[11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19] and elsewhere (e.g., court cases, executive orders). U.S. law also uses the term "unauthorized alien".[20][21][22] U.S. immigration laws do use the phrase illegal immigrant, though the phrase has become a common and highly politicized term in the United States.[23]"

i tweeted that earlier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28law%29

oh yeah that's where I saw that

so "illegal aliean" and "unauthorized alien" is US law apprently

but never illegal immigrant

seems to me that whatever's in the law should be the term used

anything else is just political correctness...

immigrant without legal status?

Unauthorized alien seems fair.

Ultimately though this is a left-wing tactic. Redefine the language to narrow acceptable thought.

Syme explains it very clearly in 1984. Lenin and friends did this sort of thng all the time.

All these euphemisms that have been coined for "political correctness" aren't about protecting someone's feelings. It's about controlling what is and is not acceptable in discourse, and therefore winning political battles by default.

Some folk believe the term was coined by the early national socialist movements in pre-Nazi Europe. Other believe it was coined by Lenin. But everyone agrees that the purpose of politically correct speech is to constrain thought.

I should say the 'original purpose'

Many people now would believe that current politically correct speech is good, while the original application of the concept was bad.

My advice would be to use the most literal wording possible.

A foreign national without legal authorization to be present in the United States.

I would suggest that everyone has a legal status, its just that some people's legal status is that they are breaking the law

House guest who has overstayed their welcome

The new hotness is "Mexican Asylum Seeker"

Also, fix your own damn country

wherever that is

Extra-terrestrial, as in excess terrestrial begins

As insensitive as that sounds, I actually wish Mexico, Central American Countries, South American countries which produce the most unathorized aliens, would turn their countries into countries which would be as such that people didn't feel the need to risk their lives for a "chance" at a better life

Well, we count stop stealing all their talent

Just close immigration.

im not for that, either though

it's their choice to immigrate

but yeah, that has something to do with it

probagbly a pareto distribution thing 😃

Well, smart people leave because they will get killed. We take them because we want them.

It's not much of a choice

probably because the governments are corrupt and/or the country is ruled by barbarians basically.

Francis Fukuyama makes an argument that the reason why South American countries are generally unsuccessful has to do with the differences in the colonizing cultures.

Spain didn't really embrace enlightenment values.

Egalitarianism, rule-of-law, universalism, etc.

spanish/portugese vs french/english/dutch?

That's his argument, yeah.

could be

I mean.. its not like there isn't a blueprint for success that these countries could follow easily since the general populace has every increasing knowledge of the outside world

Fukuyama was wrong on a lot of stuff, but he is thought provoking at least.

It's easy to say they should emulate more successful countries. It's hard to actually make that a reality when doing so upsets existing interests.

oh I know

and like it was said earlier, the people that are smart enough to do it and aren't corrupt, are probably emigrating anyway

Pretty much.

cool post by a steemit team member about Smart Media tokens and media surrounding the elon musk story .i think a lot of companies and people can use smt , would be useful for a tim pool website for example. https://steemit.com/media/@andrarchy/creating-elon-musk-s-pravda-with-smart-media-tokens

https://youtu.be/RndDTYmES7U

Get in here guys

In what

nearly 300k likes!! https://twitter.com/JAAVRGSJ/status/1000608793569452032?s=20

like who is saying this?... that school shooters were just bullied?

I havent seen anything but condemnation of school shooters.. but apparently there are some "white people" that are saying they are victims ... who knew

Tim is live-streaming @Somi#7270

Savage stream 🔥🔥🔥

You want someone to blame for underage and school shooters look at the parents who didnt give a shit enough to pay attention to there child and warning signs

you are responsible for what you have created wether he becomes president or a mass killer

its your fault

your kid is some crazy ass fuckin antifa beating people with bike locks or fuckin up traffic. That shits on you to

raise your fucking kid because the education system cant make a decent fuckin person

once upon a time school just taught facts and people could fill in the void with there morals and values and discipline but when you have 3rd generation strippers...The system has gone off rails

and while im at it

god bless anyone wether military, police, militia, or neighborhood watch who gives there time and lives to supporting and protecting

thank you

did he enable the donation thing on his stream

oh he did the streamlabs

neat

im just super fucking bummed that his channel got fucked over by youtube

unfortunatly it was a matter of time me thinks

it only takes one mass targeting just to find something that doesn't pass the "standards"

Oh hey

Forgot I was here

Happy memorial day and all that

🇺🇸

i just had to deleted like 12 more videos

oof

found more cbd or something else?

financial services

the gold?

me and bearing are reading through the promo tos

gold and crypto

yeah

ugh

can you get away with superchat replacing those sponsorships (when you get your streaming back)?

or streamlabs?

@Timcast wait youtube is banning crypto? why?

he's doing it premptively

are you not allowed to talk about those things entirely, or just no paid promotions on those subjects?

reading the TOS

not giving them a reason

god the world is so weird now

its that

but also Google is Orwellian

I heard they pulled the don't be evil bulletin from one of there departments last month haha

im surprised it's been that long

@Timcast are they still backed up on the other site, forget its name

no paid promo

im deleting them from everywhere

damn.

you cant promote financial services without lengthy disclosures IN THE AD