Farscryer

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2018-05-24 23:21:03 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

RIP Total Biscuitt

2018-05-25 12:20:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Absolutely grotesque SJWs commenting on TBโ€™s death announcement tweet.

2018-05-28 23:35:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Get in here guys

2018-06-08 20:13:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Watching the interview now. $5 says that the guy is a fake.

2018-06-08 20:26:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeah this sounds fake

2018-06-08 20:26:58 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The guy doesnโ€™t sound 14 to begin with

2018-06-08 20:27:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

And thereโ€™s no way in hell that this suppose it 14-year-old seriously believes that he will never be located or that heโ€™ll suffer no punishment of any worth

2018-06-08 20:28:41 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

You could chalk it up to a suppose it narcissistic tendencies in online interactions Between two people supposedly thinking theyโ€™re anonymous

2018-06-08 20:29:05 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

But this doesnโ€™t sound right at all. Sounds like 4chan

2018-06-08 20:29:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Sounds like an OP needs to deliver Sort of situation

2018-06-08 20:40:48 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

^^^ Leaning towards this to be honest

2018-06-08 23:10:48 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Or just a Euro-centric intra-net.

2018-06-08 23:11:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

With access to the wider Web restricted to โ€œverified browsersโ€

2018-06-08 23:11:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Pay money for โ€œother netโ€ access per month, because EU government is expensive.

2018-06-08 23:12:49 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Donโ€™t know where youโ€™re from @wacka but it looks to me like yโ€™all are being corralled.

2018-07-06 18:20:21 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!agree

2018-07-06 18:20:57 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!gamer

2018-07-06 18:21:02 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!rank

2018-10-08 14:04:57 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I think the Republicans are scared of what they could become if they start, en mass, acting proactively like the Democrats have been.

2018-10-08 14:05:36 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Or rather, of what the perception others will have of them if they should start acting differently.

2018-10-08 14:06:31 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And the price for winning could very well be an arguable case for civil war.

2018-10-08 14:08:19 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And that includes changing the rules to spite your opposition. Which is why the moderates among the population have no idea who they should be throwing their weight behind.

2018-10-08 14:08:45 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

It's about perception at this point. Optics, not necessarily policy.

2018-10-08 14:10:09 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

It did. But no one has had to deal with the twin beasts of the internet and social media, hence my point.

2018-10-08 14:10:31 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The big war is control of information, yes?

2018-10-08 14:11:43 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I agree. But my question?

2018-10-08 14:16:39 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The internet is the slowly growing Republican control base. As a whole, from what I have seen, the internet is remarkably right wing or at least right of center.

2018-10-08 14:18:55 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

How would you better put his analogy?

2018-10-08 14:21:02 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Ok, going with the poison analogy, and the build up of resistance... Have you ever considered that there are some poisons powerful enough and fast acting enough as to not allow the build up of said resistance.

2018-10-08 14:22:01 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@Beemann This.

2018-10-08 14:22:55 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The result of all this infighting is a general weakening of the host system.

2018-10-08 14:24:00 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Let's back up and establish positions.

2018-10-08 14:25:36 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Look. Democrats raising the bar to better destroy Republicans will result in a general weakening of both positions, fair?

2018-10-08 14:28:43 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Can we get back to the original argument?

2018-10-08 14:28:53 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Hard reset please

2018-10-08 14:29:46 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Then its time to be the bigger men/women

2018-10-08 14:30:36 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@oprahsminge What was your original point, please?

2018-10-08 14:31:55 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@oprahsminge Fair enough. Have a good day, man

2018-10-08 14:32:42 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@TheDogOfSinope Okay, what was your original point. I'm still interested.

2018-10-08 14:34:11 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

So, to paraphrase, "Play the game or else concede losing, regardless of the high minded ideals behind your unwillingness to play." About correct?

2018-10-08 14:39:03 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

All of this I can agree with. However, a counterpoint: The RNC doesn't fight back because of a combination of bipartisan moralism (from an era in which there was more a blending between parties) and lack of understanding of their own potential growing base on the internet.

2018-10-08 14:40:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

But they are learning. The younger folks entering into the Party are teaching them.

2018-10-08 14:41:03 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Recall back to when SOPA/PIPA was a big issue, and Google of all companies had to explain how the internet and memes worked to a bemused Senate.

2018-10-08 14:42:26 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Yes, in an era of unprecedented potential for change by virtue of the internet and social media as a by product.

2018-10-08 14:43:03 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The past, in this anyway, doesn't matter near as much as having a clear vision of the future. And then capitalizing on that.

2018-10-08 14:44:17 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

lol, and yet some intrepid bio-engineer can accomplish much with good PR and a GoFundMe

2018-10-08 14:45:21 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@Beemann This I agree with. Practicality has its place (as it does in most thing), but there is a "spirit" of sorts that the RNC needs to cultivate.

2018-10-08 14:46:58 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And yet, isn't history taught with a lens of idealism over the truths inherent within it? Every country does that, especially during primary school years. Consider the American Revolution and how its taught in both the USA and GB.

2018-10-08 14:47:19 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Yep. Brave new world.

2018-10-08 14:47:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Yep.

2018-10-08 14:48:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Human beings are never 100% rational, even at the best of times. And especially in groups. So why is it that people think that a nation's worth of people will be influenced by truth as opposed to a spirit of idealism?

2018-10-08 14:49:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@TheDogOfSinope They will not respect you for doing this. At all.

2018-10-08 14:50:01 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Respect implies mutual agreement concerning whatever. About the only thing that the DNC agrees with the RNC is that Americans need to pick a side.

2018-10-08 14:50:50 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

It didn't used to be that way either. There was more of a blending between the two parties.

2018-10-08 14:51:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Back to the original argument, gents?

2018-10-08 14:52:55 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I'm down

2018-10-08 14:53:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

My points?

2018-10-08 14:56:23 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

But somewhere along the line, something had to have occurred to warrant such a radical shift in perspective. Because they were originally two POVs looking at the same problem, not teams.

2018-10-08 14:58:21 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

DNC used to be the party of Southern slave holders and non integrationists.

2018-10-08 14:59:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And power begets power, go on...

2018-10-08 15:02:02 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Ok, so here's my opinion/perspective: The DNC can't win using the tactics they are using. Everything they have done is sorted and archived on the internet. Videos of attacks, of statements, and the like. This is why Hillary lost. Her own base did her in because lack of care on their actions in combination with the internet and social media. All those asshole Tweets and Youtube videos add up.

2018-10-08 15:03:00 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The RNC can't compete here because to do so would tarnish there own credibility by being the punching bag of the left. What they can do is provide a better vision of the future than what the DNC is currently building.

2018-10-08 15:04:04 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And capitalizing on that involves recognizing that there is a marked interest in traditional values on the internet, amongst there own base that is stifled from being public and active on social media.

2018-10-08 15:05:24 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

No one likes seeing kids in drag being sexualized in front of very, very older people, sensitivity of LGBT issues aside. Lines have been very clearly crossed by the DNC and the RNC should know this. Because their younger population certainly does.

2018-10-08 15:07:56 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I am 31 years old. I will likely be a father by 38. The millennials are growing up under sharply divided lines concerning issues of censorship, forced diversity, and false accusations of sexism/racism/bigotry. The liberal ideals that I grew up with are the new normal and today's progressivism is worrisome in that it is change for change's sake.

2018-10-08 15:08:27 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

No wisdom, just full speed to the left. No looking back. That is what the RNC should be capitalizing on.

2018-10-08 15:09:48 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Most in the RNC are pretty liberal compared to 10/20/30/40 years ago. Most of the younger crowd accepts homosexuals and racial demographics of all types.

2018-10-08 15:10:49 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

What they don't like being told is that they are inherently bigoted due to the color of their skin, the party they hold to, and that they bring facts to an argument full of thin-skinned feelings.

2018-10-08 15:11:46 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

But that said, idealism has its place. And the RNC should be building on that.

2018-10-08 15:16:53 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I can get behind that.

2018-10-08 15:18:25 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I firmly believe that its the control of the information that we use in our day-to-day is at the center of our current problems.

2018-10-08 15:19:35 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The RNC doesn't understand the internet... yet. They are learning though, and learning quickly. The DNC is firmly on the policing aspect of it. The RNC seems to just want things to be neutral. Steady-state.

2018-10-08 15:20:18 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

That too

2018-10-08 15:21:09 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And because the primary battle is over information control, the DNC and RNC are talking past each other, assuming correctly that both are speaking different languages.

2018-10-08 15:21:57 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The DNC is worried about systems, the RNC about individuals. The presentation of the battle is public perception and the war is information control.

2018-10-08 15:22:43 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

As far as I can tell, man, we're cool. And individual connections are the base upon which the DNC falls.

2018-10-08 15:25:06 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I can dig it. But what I'm saying is that how we win this is just as important as the endgame. Alinskist tactics are written from the perspective that the victor gets to condition the next generation of THEIR perspective and views in how the war is won. That cannot hold nowadays because of the internet.

2018-10-08 15:25:14 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Everything is archived

2018-10-08 15:26:56 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@Undead Mockingbird Yes. New tech acts as a check against partisan "memory loss." Likewise, if drastic steps are taken, new tech can also deplatform any and all detractors, or lead to their removal a la China's "Social credit" system.

2018-10-08 15:32:15 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@Beemann Truth, but I disagree on the latter point. Alinsky's Rules for Radicals provides a firm threat of what can occur if your convictions, virtues, and morals are not ironclad. Because they can and will be used against you... if the detractors have no sense of building a public support for their actions.

2018-10-08 15:32:45 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Information. And how to acquire said information.

2018-10-08 15:34:26 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

"RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.โ€

2018-10-08 15:34:58 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

This is a historical tactic of the RNC because they focus primarily on individuals as a rule.

2018-10-08 15:35:20 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The DNC though fully weaponized it due to social media.

2018-10-08 15:35:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Alex Jones, Milo, and others are prime examples.

2018-10-08 15:37:19 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Right. But going back our earlier argument concerning poison vs resistance-building, this rule no longer applies due to technology being its natural, unexpected counter.

2018-10-08 15:37:59 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

You can try to smear someone and the Streisand effect comes into play, all thanks to the internet and its archival process. And its users too

2018-10-08 15:38:40 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Got it in one

2018-10-08 15:39:31 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

America is unique because "Fuck your shit!!!" has been a facet of our Constitution since the beginning.

2018-10-08 15:40:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

We allow a level of argumentation and social buckling in our governance. But the check to that has always been "But hey, we're all Americans, here."

2018-10-08 15:41:18 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

THAT has been eroded because, as I see it, people don't seem to understand what it means to be an American. Or what you can or can not do as an American.

2018-10-08 15:43:02 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And this is where the RNC revival begins. By accepting the "cheesy" aspect of those ideals and marrying them with a positive future in which those ideals can exist with the rest of the modern world.

2018-10-08 15:43:37 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

No one wants the 1950's back. But people should want the pride of being American from that era back.

2018-10-08 15:43:55 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And in my opinion, the internet can help that.

2018-10-08 15:45:48 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Too many people are looking for a brand to wear on their t-shirt than a moral center upon which to grow from.

2018-10-08 15:46:58 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

All of which is parroted 3rd hand instead of being self-actualized, nowadays.

2018-10-08 15:47:48 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Because Americans have been taught to not think overmuch about the long term as opposed to myopic gratification.

2018-10-08 15:48:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Every man needs something to believe in, be it a god or an ideal.

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