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2018-05-28 17:03:26 UTC  

Besides, according to @wacka Tim himself has said there is some kind of connection. Look at how many were members.

2018-05-28 17:05:56 UTC  

Is just weird that I cant find anything about it from a more credible source than that sketchy site

2018-05-28 17:07:36 UTC  

did u stop ur subscription recently?

2018-05-28 17:07:41 UTC  

like after the Elon Musk thing happened?

2018-05-28 17:07:52 UTC  

Its a small story. Besides, it’s not the strangest place to find a cult business. The 12 tribes cult owns a restaurant chain.

2018-05-28 17:07:59 UTC  

because everything that I can find about their "ties" to the cult is very very recent publications

2018-05-28 17:08:21 UTC  

It could be a made up story to discredit Elon Musk

2018-05-28 17:08:24 UTC  

This specific cult ran a school in Miami. Did you read that link I posted @Ivanfr ?

2018-05-28 17:08:37 UTC  

Im not talking about the cult

2018-05-28 17:08:42 UTC  

the cult is real

2018-05-28 17:08:54 UTC  

the ties from TKM to the cult is what I am not convinced about

2018-05-28 17:09:42 UTC  

The Knife stuff has been going around for months. My wife can across it about three months ago.

2018-05-28 17:09:54 UTC  

Right, I understand

2018-05-28 17:12:54 UTC  

I’d really like TKM to make a clear public statement concerning this or, I don’t know, respond to my fucking email about it. I think they do a great job in their reporting. I’d like to support them again, but I’m not until they clear this up.

2018-05-28 17:16:04 UTC  

what I've found is that two semi famous actresses were in the cult and also worked for TKM

2018-05-28 17:16:29 UTC  

Its normal for this cults to pay good money to famous ppl just for publicity

2018-05-28 17:16:34 UTC  

has TKM fired them?

2018-05-28 17:17:46 UTC  

Its suspicious that they havent made a public statement

2018-05-28 17:18:12 UTC  

The logic thing to do is to cut ties with the "contaminated" members inmediatly and make a public statement

2018-05-28 17:31:56 UTC  

I find it hilarious that a sex cult can do better objective reporting than the majority of mainstream news outlets

2018-05-28 17:32:53 UTC  

I know right

2018-05-28 17:42:32 UTC  

for now the nxivm stuff is all allegations

2018-05-28 17:42:40 UTC  

the cult is actually called like SM or something

2018-05-28 17:42:57 UTC  

but its NXIVM members who started it and claim that the guy who started nxivm started SM

2018-05-28 17:45:41 UTC  

so Im trying to avoid doing too much into NXIVM because its dangerous legal territory and not a lot is confirmed

2018-05-28 17:46:04 UTC  

but when they claim the knife is a sex cult because The Knife is run by people in NXIVM and the SM Sex cult has people in NXIVM it looks a bit contrived

2018-05-28 17:46:18 UTC  

though NXIVM sounds culty for sure

2018-05-28 17:46:30 UTC  

The Knife seems objectively ok though, but I do quetion their motives

2018-05-28 17:46:48 UTC  

nearly everything in my recomends and subscriptions is "tommy robinson" or "the UK is over" 😛 talk about the Streisand effect

2018-05-28 17:46:55 UTC  

You should question anyone's motives who tries to be a fact checking source

2018-05-28 17:49:00 UTC  

Yeah, the Knife does great work. It’s the motivations and potential funding of a cult that turns me off.

2018-05-28 17:49:06 UTC  

Who fact checks the fact checkers? Eventually you need some sort of leap of faith.

2018-05-28 17:49:18 UTC  

the media loved being accountable to no one

2018-05-28 17:49:20 UTC  

its a free for all

2018-05-28 17:49:30 UTC  

they all write bullshit about people and dont care

2018-05-28 17:52:13 UTC  

and that's nothing new. it's just easier to notice that because you fact check most things yourself

2018-05-28 17:52:19 UTC  

although I dont think thats anything new, it does seem past time something was done

2018-05-28 17:56:17 UTC  

if its done right I think the "wisdom of crowd" thing will come through... but if its left anonymous or made too easy to set up bot accounts it could backfire

2018-05-28 18:10:30 UTC  

its nothing new,

But i think the breaking point is that more and more truth is available, because of normal people reporting on social media and those that bring it to fight back against the media,

So with that much availability, its easier to notice the media is full of bull, AND you can persuade more people because beforehand it was like "Well do you have any evidence?" and you go "errr....nooo?" and get called a conspiracy theorist,

Now you can just throw the proof at people

2018-05-28 18:10:41 UTC  

Just leave people to choose to be anonymous or named. Both have value.

2018-05-28 18:14:23 UTC  

its a tricky thing to handle tho ... its not like you can just "#fakenews" an article... for example the thing with pewdiepie .. he DID have hitler in some of his videos, he did have the death to jews sign... but the media took it all seriously and out of context... its like... partial truths, without any specific lies