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2018-07-17 07:51:48 UTC

Things that are OK in the UK - Genetically engineering your children

2018-07-17 07:52:13 UTC

Embryos are doable because their small and not completely dependent on functional systems for stuff like eating.

2018-07-17 07:52:22 UTC

So is feeding them hormones to change their gender

2018-07-17 07:52:33 UTC

Things that are illegal in the UK - taking your baby go overseas to get experimental treatments

2018-07-17 07:52:43 UTC

-to try and save its life

2018-07-17 07:53:40 UTC

i got a better one Blackhawk ๐Ÿ˜‰

Things that are OK in the UK - Genetically engineering your children

Things taht are NOT OK in the UK - Calling an anonimous person a faggy cumstain on twitter

2018-07-17 07:54:34 UTC

*reported.

The internet police are onto you, good sir.

Hope you have an active Jail loicense.

2018-07-17 07:54:49 UTC

//s

2018-07-17 07:54:58 UTC

i don't live in the UK

You can't harm me! ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-07-17 07:56:36 UTC

That's what you think.

Watch out for the black helicopters.

2018-07-17 07:56:39 UTC

//s

2018-07-17 07:57:20 UTC

hey guys! the communist party just mailed me a coupon for a free helicopter ride ๐Ÿ˜„ zomg

2018-07-17 07:57:29 UTC

Lmfao

2018-07-17 07:57:58 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/468687795578470400/laughs-in-right-wing-death-squad-26861662.png

2018-07-17 07:59:35 UTC

Jesus Tim made the most accurate metaphor about the sjw movement

2018-07-17 07:59:48 UTC

It's an autoimmune disorder

2018-07-17 08:00:12 UTC

interesting comparison

2018-07-17 08:00:24 UTC

It's so perfect

2018-07-17 08:00:48 UTC

When there was racism, social justice activist did a good job of fighting against it

2018-07-17 08:01:06 UTC

But now that's there's no racism at the same level, they still keep fighting

2018-07-17 08:01:23 UTC

Attacking things like comedy and entertainment

2018-07-17 08:01:31 UTC

And even basic manners

2018-07-17 08:01:39 UTC

Bunch of dragon slayers and they out of dragons

2018-07-17 08:01:46 UTC

So they accuse people of being dragons

2018-07-17 08:01:55 UTC

To remain relevent

2018-07-17 08:02:00 UTC

nah, i think its more comparable to cancer

It will grow if you don't cure it soon,
And then metastasise to OTHER parts of your body (society/games/movies/comics)
And grow there too

and Ultimately it wants to reach government (brain) and you'll die

2018-07-17 08:02:30 UTC

unless you take chemo (dank memes ๐Ÿ˜‚ )

2018-07-17 08:02:35 UTC

I have no idea what a social justice government would look like

2018-07-17 08:02:45 UTC

*points at the DNC*

2018-07-17 08:03:10 UTC

I think mussolini talked about it in one of his speeches, but im not sure he implemented those ideas or that his definition applies today

2018-07-17 08:04:01 UTC

nah I doubt even SJW's truely appreciate the point of Social Justice,

They just use it to justify their monsterous actions by making it sound morally justified

2018-07-17 08:12:23 UTC

Eh

2018-07-17 08:12:34 UTC

It really depends on the group and person

2018-07-17 08:12:36 UTC
2018-07-17 08:12:52 UTC

They literally call themselves a feminist government

2018-07-17 08:13:23 UTC

They paid a woman 30000 SDK to go to France and put on a burkha

2018-07-17 08:13:41 UTC

That feels like something that they didnt do, at least without context

2018-07-17 08:13:53 UTC

Though im really leaning towards 'that never happened'

2018-07-17 08:16:17 UTC

Tried to google it, this is all i got

2018-07-17 08:16:57 UTC

It was 100000 sdk, not 30000 sorry

2018-07-17 08:17:30 UTC

Oh, and it was a city

2018-07-17 08:17:40 UTC

City government, not federal

2018-07-17 08:18:29 UTC

Seems like it was some kind of protest move

2018-07-17 08:18:34 UTC

in regards to frances ban

2018-07-17 08:18:50 UTC

They're spending tax dollars on useless art projects

2018-07-17 08:19:16 UTC

While their elderly are suffering

2018-07-17 08:19:22 UTC

It's a city government

2018-07-17 08:19:35 UTC

These guys arent really connected to the federal government of sweden

2018-07-17 08:19:49 UTC

They're just local politicians doing something rather silly

2018-07-17 08:20:05 UTC

doesn't city governments get tax money as their funding?

2018-07-17 08:20:29 UTC

Yep

2018-07-17 08:20:40 UTC

Sort of, the exact system depends on country

2018-07-17 08:20:46 UTC

They often make their money from local taxes

2018-07-17 08:20:56 UTC

thats still taxpayer money?

2018-07-17 08:20:57 UTC

They also had new feminist period art installed in subway stations
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/ny-konst-i-tunnelbanan

2018-07-17 08:21:04 UTC

Well yeah

2018-07-17 08:21:25 UTC

But the point here is that you cant really say 'The federal government is wasting money'

2018-07-17 08:21:32 UTC

Better example. Just look at the administration of Universities.

2018-07-17 08:21:42 UTC

Pretend tuition is taxes.

2018-07-17 08:22:06 UTC

Not quite a whole state, but I think it's what they idealize.

2018-07-17 08:22:17 UTC

@Deleted User Why do they have jam coming from their undies wtf

2018-07-17 08:22:25 UTC

suppose to go on your toast

2018-07-17 08:22:39 UTC

Government officials in Sweden fund their parties with tax money too
http://www.bt.se/nyheter/forsakringskassan-stallde-in-fest-skattebetalarna-nota-36-000-kronor/

2018-07-17 08:23:09 UTC

pls answer question

2018-07-17 08:23:48 UTC

There are places in the US that do this. It always ends up in the hands of incumbents somehow.

2018-07-17 08:24:29 UTC

@Franken the answer is in the post.

2018-07-17 08:24:54 UTC

It's a fucked up government

2018-07-17 08:25:05 UTC

But it hasn't gone full social justice yet

2018-07-17 08:25:23 UTC

Canada is pretty close too

2018-07-17 08:25:51 UTC

I dunno about that.

2018-07-17 08:26:04 UTC

Trudeau can be a goon, but overall i really dont feel our government has gone SJW.

2018-07-17 08:28:18 UTC

That's why I said *close*

2018-07-17 08:28:48 UTC

I dont really think we're close either

2018-07-17 08:28:49 UTC

To be clear

2018-07-17 08:29:38 UTC

@pratel but why jam

2018-07-17 08:29:58 UTC

Canada will probably become more right wing next election.

2018-07-17 08:30:35 UTC

I kinda hope not. Im really not a fan of SJW like shit, and some of Trudeaus antics, but im even less of a fan of the conservative party here.

2018-07-17 08:30:38 UTC

I got this weird feeling a reaction to Trudeau is building behind the scenes.

Trudeau is a Social Justice PM and he's moved policy in that direction. ("feminist budgets" and things like denying funding to pro-life groups for summer programs being key examples)

But it's being met with growing resistance.

2018-07-17 08:30:56 UTC

He has, but as far as ive seen its almost all been very token

2018-07-17 08:31:32 UTC

Hence why im still just very meh on him.

2018-07-17 08:31:36 UTC

Man i miss Jack Layton

2018-07-17 08:32:14 UTC

NDP is electing shitty leaders, Conservatives are pretty shit right now, and the liberals are Trudeau

2018-07-17 08:32:22 UTC

I just find myself really not being a fan of anybody

2018-07-17 08:32:37 UTC

It's a less extreme version of how i feel about US politics

2018-07-17 08:33:10 UTC

I think that's the new normal for everybody at some level.

2018-07-17 08:33:26 UTC

Furthermore, coalitions shift.

2018-07-17 08:33:41 UTC

In the US we are in the middle of a very big shift right now.

2018-07-17 08:34:03 UTC

Once the Democrats come to power and fracture, the shift will be complete.

2018-07-17 08:34:16 UTC

They can't hold their current divisions entirely.

2018-07-17 08:34:35 UTC

Or if they do, it would be one **** of an act. Social Justice being the likely glue.

2018-07-17 08:35:04 UTC

In which social justice would only get more extreme.

2018-07-17 08:35:23 UTC

The only party we have that is consistently against increasing surveilence powers/compromising what 'free speech' rights we have, is the NDP, but they've seemingly been taken in by the SJW shit thats going around, despite having been mostly above it historically (At least in terms of race/gender/etc)
Though probably not as bad as the liberals with Trudeau

2018-07-17 08:35:44 UTC

Liberals have seemed really willing to compromise those rights along with the Conservatives

2018-07-17 08:36:50 UTC

Before 2013, I'd have thought that would be the Democrats. Then social justice happened. And now look where things are. The ACLU is backing away from free speech and there's fake news bills being passed around California.

2018-07-17 08:37:08 UTC

Who knows anymore.

2018-07-17 08:37:09 UTC

See

2018-07-17 08:37:19 UTC

Our analogs for US parties are as follows

2018-07-17 08:37:28 UTC

Conservatives are a more mild version of republicans

2018-07-17 08:37:35 UTC

Liberals are quite similar to democrats

2018-07-17 08:37:44 UTC

NDP is the further left leaning party

2018-07-17 08:37:50 UTC

They're more.... old school though?

2018-07-17 08:38:04 UTC

Or at least used to be.

2018-07-17 08:38:14 UTC

Hence my comment about Jack Layton, which was their leader until 2011

2018-07-17 08:38:24 UTC

Old school meaning old school socialist?

2018-07-17 08:39:01 UTC

Kind yeah. NDP was formerly a outright Socialist party, but toned that down somewhat in the late 90's/early 2000's

2018-07-17 08:39:38 UTC

Not sure how to explain it really

2018-07-17 08:39:58 UTC

Comparing them to people like Bernie in the US i think actually doesnt work that well

2018-07-17 08:40:16 UTC

Do they map well to Cortez?

2018-07-17 08:40:22 UTC

No, not really.

2018-07-17 08:40:36 UTC

Ok. try this.

2018-07-17 08:40:49 UTC

Chavez? Castro? ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-07-17 08:41:29 UTC

No :p

2018-07-17 08:41:35 UTC

Guevera?

2018-07-17 08:41:47 UTC

No.

2018-07-17 08:41:54 UTC

This was their platform last election

2018-07-17 08:42:04 UTC

If you read carefully, they mention repealling Bill C-51

2018-07-17 08:42:10 UTC

The 'anti terrorism' bill

2018-07-17 08:42:20 UTC

Which is a massive part of why i liked them that election

2018-07-17 08:42:28 UTC

They were the only party interested in doing that.

2018-07-17 08:42:42 UTC

Stance on:
1) Minimum Wage.
2) Rent control
3) Nationalization of industries
4) Firearms
5) vices (alcohol, weed, violent media)
6) Social Justice (as defined by feminism and racial politics)
7) Preferred taxes

2018-07-17 08:43:03 UTC

The platform is useful, but it seems pretty par for the course for Canada from what I can tell.

2018-07-17 08:43:23 UTC

damnit i misread that last part "Crack down on Senate expenses and LOBSTER Conflict, interest laws" ๐Ÿ˜ฆ i was so excited

2018-07-17 08:43:57 UTC

Oh, two others I forgot, preferred subsidies and defense spending.

2018-07-17 08:48:44 UTC

1) Dont think they had one. But they're a party that would like a relatively high one.
2) Never mentioned really. Not that ive seen. That kinda goes for all parties in the 2015 election. More of a local issue?
3) NDP is pro-nationalization for industries Canada has tradtionally had nationalized (Hydro is the big thing. Conservatives moved to privatize, NDP strongly dislikes this.)
4) No comment. Canadians are generally quite happy with their firearms laws, though im sure some gun people would prefer them loosened. It's not a big debate here, and wasnt talked about from what i saw.
5) Fine with vices, probably would consider legalizing marijuana like Trudeau is doing, but didnt run on it.
6) Talk about it alot less then Liberals, but some of what the individual party members have said, especially in 2017/2018 makes me feel bleh. I think they'd be significantly more mild about it then liberals though, more worried about class like traditional leftist politics, then race/femininism
7) Liberals have a habit of increasing spending, without compensating enough with revenue. NDP would like to both increase spending and increase taxes. (IIRC they wanted to increase spending by a similar amount to liberals, but actually talked about raising taxes to pay for it. Liberals kinda avoided talking about how they would pay)

2018-07-17 08:49:34 UTC

Our parties, as of the 2015 election kind of end up
Conservatives : Right
Liberals : Centre Left
NDP : Left

2018-07-17 08:49:49 UTC

Traditionally the liberals have been centrist or centre right though.

2018-07-17 08:50:04 UTC

And they tend to vote with conservatives more often then NDP

2018-07-17 08:51:10 UTC

Sounds like Sanders to me.

On the tax question, what I really meant was if given the choice between say an excise tax or an income tax, which would they choose.

The flier indicated a desire to cut the business tax for 'small' businesses, which seemed kinda odd for a traditional left party.

2018-07-17 08:51:19 UTC

excise tax?

2018-07-17 08:51:31 UTC

Alcohol.

2018-07-17 08:51:33 UTC

Oh yeah, they did run on that.

2018-07-17 08:51:37 UTC

Cigarettes.

2018-07-17 08:51:39 UTC

Stuff like that.

2018-07-17 08:51:44 UTC

Carbon.

2018-07-17 08:51:52 UTC

They wouldnt really do that. Again more of a local thing here?
Carbon tax they would do though.

2018-07-17 08:51:57 UTC

Trudeau is trying as well

2018-07-17 08:52:02 UTC

Interestingly

2018-07-17 08:52:06 UTC

The Local NDP in Alberta

2018-07-17 08:52:08 UTC

(Oil sands)

2018-07-17 08:52:16 UTC

Is fighting strongly against the carbon tax.

2018-07-17 08:52:32 UTC

Rachel Notely is the local NDP leader in Alberta

2018-07-17 08:52:44 UTC

Notably Alberta consistently voted conservative before her

2018-07-17 08:52:48 UTC

But she's quite popular now

2018-07-17 08:53:17 UTC

And yes, like i was trying to get at before, more class focused, then race/feminism focused.

2018-07-17 08:53:31 UTC

Which is much like sanders

2018-07-17 08:53:50 UTC

Though i havent seen them call for taxing the rich to pay for university or some such

2018-07-17 08:54:02 UTC

So less extreme then sanders in some ways with that.

2018-07-17 08:54:47 UTC

Heavily pro-union, Pro low small buisness tax, pro heavily progresssive income tax

2018-07-17 08:55:18 UTC

Ah. there we go. A Union party.

2018-07-17 08:55:32 UTC

er. labor union party.

2018-07-17 08:55:50 UTC

Though low taxes on small business is unusual.

2018-07-17 08:55:58 UTC

Maybe. But its coherent.

2018-07-17 08:57:52 UTC

"Kick-start the economy and build needed infrastructure, starting with:
? Cutting taxes for Canadaโ€™s job creators by reducing the small business tax from
11 to 9%.
? Supporting innovation and investment in companies creating jobs in Canada,
with an early focus on the aerospace, automotive, forestry and mining sectors.
? Creating jobs and building our economy with $1.5 billion per year in new
infrastructure funding to municipalities to fix roads, bridges and water
treatment systems."

2018-07-17 08:59:18 UTC

Was watching Tim's video from a few days ago in which he mentioned Directive 51 again

2018-07-17 08:59:43 UTC

Each time he mentions it, he tends to leave out the part about a mass casualty, government-interrupting event that forms the prerequisite for it

2018-07-17 09:00:14 UTC

Sure, that happened

2018-07-17 09:00:19 UTC

But that changes fuck all for me honestly

2018-07-17 09:00:24 UTC

The bill's fucking atrocious

2018-07-17 09:00:27 UTC

```"Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;```

2018-07-17 09:00:43 UTC

Oh

2018-07-17 09:00:47 UTC

'Directive' 51?

2018-07-17 09:00:50 UTC

That isnt Canada?

2018-07-17 09:00:53 UTC

Nevermind me.

2018-07-17 09:01:02 UTC

I thought of C-51.

2018-07-17 09:01:03 UTC

Sorry, I kind of came in here with my own topic in mind

2018-07-17 09:01:47 UTC

Though speaking of Canada, my big issue with how Tim talks about Directive 51 is how it requires something so ungodly catastrophic to occur before it can even be an option on the table,

2018-07-17 09:01:58 UTC

in contrast to a place like Canada, where the Queen could dismiss your parliament tomorrow

2018-07-17 09:02:19 UTC

That... No.

2018-07-17 09:02:27 UTC

We wouldnt stand for that ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-07-17 09:02:33 UTC

She knows it, we know it.

2018-07-17 09:02:51 UTC

In 1975.

2018-07-17 09:03:01 UTC

Nearly half a century ago

2018-07-17 09:03:03 UTC

Australia had their duly elected prime minister dismissed due to little more than bad poll numbers and a gridlocked legislature

2018-07-17 09:03:15 UTC

and Australia just laid down and took it

2018-07-17 09:03:29 UTC

And then the minority party's leader was put into power as head of government

2018-07-17 09:03:46 UTC

Sounds interesting

2018-07-17 09:04:01 UTC

and as far as I know, this is an area where Canada and Australia have virtually identical laws

2018-07-17 09:04:06 UTC

The Queen meddled with us in the past a bit, but it was mostly political bullshit our politicians were asking for.

2018-07-17 09:04:13 UTC

Canada's armed forces swear allegiance to the Queen personally

2018-07-17 09:04:17 UTC

as do Canadian politicans

2018-07-17 09:04:19 UTC

Yes, because we were both previously colonies

2018-07-17 09:04:26 UTC

I cant say you're wrong in terms of laws

2018-07-17 09:04:30 UTC

so they cannot, legally, object to her exercising her full authority

2018-07-17 09:04:37 UTC

But in terms of practice i staunchly believe you're way off.

2018-07-17 09:04:48 UTC

We can illegally, very loudly object to it

2018-07-17 09:04:50 UTC

And we would

2018-07-17 09:05:02 UTC

nah, Canada is cucked

2018-07-17 09:05:09 UTC

you'd kneel to the queen

2018-07-17 09:05:21 UTC

I find it hard to believe that Canada is independent of the UK bearing these factors in mind

2018-07-17 09:05:36 UTC

Really, it depends on the circumstance.

2018-07-17 09:05:47 UTC

If Canada were itself too divided to act, it probably wouldn't.

2018-07-17 09:05:59 UTC

If what she did had wide popular approval

2018-07-17 09:06:02 UTC

You're probably right

2018-07-17 09:06:10 UTC

That was the case with Australia

2018-07-17 09:06:27 UTC

Doesn't even need wide popular approval. Just enough to make revolt inpractical.

2018-07-17 09:06:38 UTC

however you define 'revolt'

2018-07-17 09:06:45 UTC

The prime minister was unpopular enough that the people didn't complain when a perfectly law-abiding politician was suddenly and swiftly ejected from the office they were duly elected to serve in

2018-07-17 09:06:48 UTC

at least according to polling

2018-07-17 09:07:09 UTC

Even if the people DID revolt, it's not like the Canadian armed forces swear allegiance to Canadian law

2018-07-17 09:07:14 UTC

or people

2018-07-17 09:07:17 UTC

or politicians

2018-07-17 09:07:17 UTC

But in practice the Queen doesnt excercise a whole lot of power here, and if she did try to do something widely unpopular she'd be putting herself in a precarious situation i imagine

2018-07-17 09:07:22 UTC

They swear allegiance only to the Queen

2018-07-17 09:07:36 UTC

But she DID exercise this power in practice in 1975

2018-07-17 09:07:41 UTC

So what's to stop her from doing it again?

2018-07-17 09:07:48 UTC

Yeah, but show me a Canadian that'd actually answer to the Queen instead of the nation when it mattered

2018-07-17 09:07:49 UTC

Who the military swears alliance to is more of a formality than a reality.

2018-07-17 09:07:55 UTC

Don't give political power to someone purely because they came out of the right vagina

2018-07-17 09:08:23 UTC

It shows where power nominally rests and the traditions and culture lie, but it says very little about how things might operate in a true crisis.

2018-07-17 09:08:25 UTC

That's rich coming from someone whose screenname starts with "Swedish"

2018-07-17 09:08:33 UTC

This is more a matter of us inheriting this governmental structure, and so long as the Queen just stays quiet, it doesnt hurt us much to keep it.

2018-07-17 09:08:40 UTC

I hate my monarchy too @RMS_Gigantic

2018-07-17 09:08:48 UTC

Knug Gustaf and whatnot

2018-07-17 09:09:28 UTC

Our royal family wants more tax money so they can marry more Beverly Hills Americans

2018-07-17 09:09:29 UTC

be a man Swedishmafia

Challenge your king to the right to the crown!

Demand a trial by wombat!

2018-07-17 09:09:43 UTC

Hold on while I steal that picture of the guy with a flag and shotgun off the firearms-chat.

2018-07-17 09:09:45 UTC

Dude, I am literally the reincarnation of Maximilien Robespierre

2018-07-17 09:09:55 UTC

Rats. I can't post pictures.

2018-07-17 09:10:17 UTC

Sweden apparently has Republikanska Fรถreningen and the Swedish Republican Association as political groups for opposing monarchism

2018-07-17 09:10:31 UTC

this one?

2018-07-17 09:10:33 UTC

Yes!

2018-07-17 09:10:34 UTC

^Me irl

2018-07-17 09:10:41 UTC

Me irl

2018-07-17 09:10:58 UTC

I'm so fucking American, I view republicanism as a political ideology in itself

2018-07-17 09:11:18 UTC

why not be so american, that you consider Republicans to be communists too ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-07-17 09:11:35 UTC

like George Liquor

2018-07-17 09:11:52 UTC

That's just ancap. you'd have to go to Liberland or something for that.

2018-07-17 09:12:00 UTC

Why is Love Island a thing?

2018-07-17 09:12:49 UTC

but getting back to my original topic, Tim tends to neglect to mension the background or indeed the restricting clauses of Directive 51

2018-07-17 09:13:03 UTC

It's just a bunch of plastic millenials trying to shag each other and fight when someone shags the wrong person

2018-07-17 09:13:06 UTC

It's PURELY a COG/COOP/ECG document

2018-07-17 09:13:27 UTC

@Swedishmafia101 It sells to cucks and dramaqueens

2018-07-17 09:13:45 UTC

Hey guys, remember how TYT covered that Spanish guy getting hit with a brick? They left out that it was done by a black woman.

Well theyโ€™ve done it again. This video is on the CVS coupon controversy. They leave out that the police were called over trespassing, not the coupon.

TYT is intentionally deceiving people
https://youtu.be/aTucq8OfZMc

2018-07-17 09:13:49 UTC

designed to save American government and prevent anarchy if some horrendous, crippling, mass-casualty blow should be struck against the US that threatens its very ability to operate as a country

2018-07-17 09:14:23 UTC

tim covered it already

2018-07-17 09:14:37 UTC

Someone, somewhere should just make a site where we list all these muck-ups.

2018-07-17 09:14:43 UTC

The US is a nation that's sorted out its political system enough to have failsafes for its failsafes for its failsafes as far as ensuring the US continues to exist

2018-07-17 09:14:59 UTC

@pratel give a name

2018-07-17 09:15:10 UTC

@Dr.Wol The Swedish version of Love Island is called "Paradise Hotel". And there are more people signing up for Paradise Hotel than teaching...

2018-07-17 09:15:26 UTC

The Charters of Freedom (Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights) receive better protection than the US president

2018-07-17 09:15:52 UTC

@Deleted User for what?

2018-07-17 09:15:53 UTC

There is a reason why I say millenials have the most stupid people out of any generation

2018-07-17 09:16:09 UTC

@Swedishmafia101 the average person will gladly become a whore for fame/recognition,

Look at FB, Twitter, Twitch, Youtube, Hollywood, Congress

2018-07-17 09:16:29 UTC

@pratel I can start working on a site to cover news fuck ups

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