Message from @Scarlet

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2018-07-17 09:01:47 UTC  

Though speaking of Canada, my big issue with how Tim talks about Directive 51 is how it requires something so ungodly catastrophic to occur before it can even be an option on the table,

2018-07-17 09:01:58 UTC  

in contrast to a place like Canada, where the Queen could dismiss your parliament tomorrow

2018-07-17 09:02:19 UTC  

That... No.

2018-07-17 09:02:27 UTC  

We wouldnt stand for that 😛

2018-07-17 09:02:33 UTC  

She knows it, we know it.

2018-07-17 09:02:51 UTC  

In 1975.

2018-07-17 09:03:01 UTC  

Nearly half a century ago

2018-07-17 09:03:03 UTC  

Australia had their duly elected prime minister dismissed due to little more than bad poll numbers and a gridlocked legislature

2018-07-17 09:03:15 UTC  

and Australia just laid down and took it

2018-07-17 09:03:29 UTC  

And then the minority party's leader was put into power as head of government

2018-07-17 09:03:46 UTC  

Sounds interesting

2018-07-17 09:04:01 UTC  

and as far as I know, this is an area where Canada and Australia have virtually identical laws

2018-07-17 09:04:06 UTC  

The Queen meddled with us in the past a bit, but it was mostly political bullshit our politicians were asking for.

2018-07-17 09:04:13 UTC  

Canada's armed forces swear allegiance to the Queen personally

2018-07-17 09:04:17 UTC  

as do Canadian politicans

2018-07-17 09:04:19 UTC  

Yes, because we were both previously colonies

2018-07-17 09:04:26 UTC  

I cant say you're wrong in terms of laws

2018-07-17 09:04:30 UTC  

so they cannot, legally, object to her exercising her full authority

2018-07-17 09:04:37 UTC  

But in terms of practice i staunchly believe you're way off.

2018-07-17 09:04:48 UTC  

We can illegally, very loudly object to it

2018-07-17 09:04:50 UTC  

And we would

2018-07-17 09:05:02 UTC  

nah, Canada is cucked

2018-07-17 09:05:09 UTC  

you'd kneel to the queen

2018-07-17 09:05:21 UTC  

I find it hard to believe that Canada is independent of the UK bearing these factors in mind

2018-07-17 09:05:36 UTC  

Really, it depends on the circumstance.

2018-07-17 09:05:47 UTC  

If Canada were itself too divided to act, it probably wouldn't.

2018-07-17 09:05:59 UTC  

If what she did had wide popular approval

2018-07-17 09:06:02 UTC  

You're probably right

2018-07-17 09:06:10 UTC  

That was the case with Australia

2018-07-17 09:06:27 UTC  

Doesn't even need wide popular approval. Just enough to make revolt inpractical.

2018-07-17 09:06:38 UTC  

however you define 'revolt'

2018-07-17 09:06:45 UTC  

The prime minister was unpopular enough that the people didn't complain when a perfectly law-abiding politician was suddenly and swiftly ejected from the office they were duly elected to serve in

2018-07-17 09:06:48 UTC  

at least according to polling

2018-07-17 09:07:09 UTC  

Even if the people DID revolt, it's not like the Canadian armed forces swear allegiance to Canadian law

2018-07-17 09:07:14 UTC  

or people

2018-07-17 09:07:17 UTC  

or politicians

2018-07-17 09:07:17 UTC  

But in practice the Queen doesnt excercise a whole lot of power here, and if she did try to do something widely unpopular she'd be putting herself in a precarious situation i imagine

2018-07-17 09:07:22 UTC  

They swear allegiance only to the Queen

2018-07-17 09:07:36 UTC  

But she DID exercise this power in practice in 1975

2018-07-17 09:07:41 UTC  

So what's to stop her from doing it again?