Message from @Scarlet

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2018-07-17 09:03:01 UTC  

Nearly half a century ago

2018-07-17 09:03:03 UTC  

Australia had their duly elected prime minister dismissed due to little more than bad poll numbers and a gridlocked legislature

2018-07-17 09:03:15 UTC  

and Australia just laid down and took it

2018-07-17 09:03:29 UTC  

And then the minority party's leader was put into power as head of government

2018-07-17 09:03:46 UTC  

Sounds interesting

2018-07-17 09:04:01 UTC  

and as far as I know, this is an area where Canada and Australia have virtually identical laws

2018-07-17 09:04:06 UTC  

The Queen meddled with us in the past a bit, but it was mostly political bullshit our politicians were asking for.

2018-07-17 09:04:13 UTC  

Canada's armed forces swear allegiance to the Queen personally

2018-07-17 09:04:17 UTC  

as do Canadian politicans

2018-07-17 09:04:19 UTC  

Yes, because we were both previously colonies

2018-07-17 09:04:26 UTC  

I cant say you're wrong in terms of laws

2018-07-17 09:04:30 UTC  

so they cannot, legally, object to her exercising her full authority

2018-07-17 09:04:37 UTC  

But in terms of practice i staunchly believe you're way off.

2018-07-17 09:04:48 UTC  

We can illegally, very loudly object to it

2018-07-17 09:04:50 UTC  

And we would

2018-07-17 09:05:02 UTC  

nah, Canada is cucked

2018-07-17 09:05:09 UTC  

you'd kneel to the queen

2018-07-17 09:05:21 UTC  

I find it hard to believe that Canada is independent of the UK bearing these factors in mind

2018-07-17 09:05:36 UTC  

Really, it depends on the circumstance.

2018-07-17 09:05:47 UTC  

If Canada were itself too divided to act, it probably wouldn't.

2018-07-17 09:05:59 UTC  

If what she did had wide popular approval

2018-07-17 09:06:02 UTC  

You're probably right

2018-07-17 09:06:10 UTC  

That was the case with Australia

2018-07-17 09:06:27 UTC  

Doesn't even need wide popular approval. Just enough to make revolt inpractical.

2018-07-17 09:06:38 UTC  

however you define 'revolt'

2018-07-17 09:06:45 UTC  

The prime minister was unpopular enough that the people didn't complain when a perfectly law-abiding politician was suddenly and swiftly ejected from the office they were duly elected to serve in

2018-07-17 09:06:48 UTC  

at least according to polling

2018-07-17 09:07:09 UTC  

Even if the people DID revolt, it's not like the Canadian armed forces swear allegiance to Canadian law

2018-07-17 09:07:14 UTC  

or people

2018-07-17 09:07:17 UTC  

or politicians

2018-07-17 09:07:17 UTC  

But in practice the Queen doesnt excercise a whole lot of power here, and if she did try to do something widely unpopular she'd be putting herself in a precarious situation i imagine

2018-07-17 09:07:22 UTC  

They swear allegiance only to the Queen

2018-07-17 09:07:36 UTC  

But she DID exercise this power in practice in 1975

2018-07-17 09:07:41 UTC  

So what's to stop her from doing it again?

2018-07-17 09:07:48 UTC  

Yeah, but show me a Canadian that'd actually answer to the Queen instead of the nation when it mattered

2018-07-17 09:07:49 UTC  

Who the military swears alliance to is more of a formality than a reality.

2018-07-17 09:07:55 UTC  

Don't give political power to someone purely because they came out of the right vagina

2018-07-17 09:08:23 UTC  

It shows where power nominally rests and the traditions and culture lie, but it says very little about how things might operate in a true crisis.

2018-07-17 09:08:25 UTC  

That's rich coming from someone whose screenname starts with "Swedish"

2018-07-17 09:08:33 UTC  

This is more a matter of us inheriting this governmental structure, and so long as the Queen just stays quiet, it doesnt hurt us much to keep it.

2018-07-17 09:08:40 UTC  

I hate my monarchy too @RMS_Gigantic