Message from @pratel
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Canada will probably become more right wing next election.
I kinda hope not. Im really not a fan of SJW like shit, and some of Trudeaus antics, but im even less of a fan of the conservative party here.
I got this weird feeling a reaction to Trudeau is building behind the scenes.
Trudeau is a Social Justice PM and he's moved policy in that direction. ("feminist budgets" and things like denying funding to pro-life groups for summer programs being key examples)
But it's being met with growing resistance.
He has, but as far as ive seen its almost all been very token
Hence why im still just very meh on him.
Man i miss Jack Layton
NDP is electing shitty leaders, Conservatives are pretty shit right now, and the liberals are Trudeau
I just find myself really not being a fan of anybody
It's a less extreme version of how i feel about US politics
I think that's the new normal for everybody at some level.
Furthermore, coalitions shift.
In the US we are in the middle of a very big shift right now.
Once the Democrats come to power and fracture, the shift will be complete.
They can't hold their current divisions entirely.
Or if they do, it would be one **** of an act. Social Justice being the likely glue.
In which social justice would only get more extreme.
The only party we have that is consistently against increasing surveilence powers/compromising what 'free speech' rights we have, is the NDP, but they've seemingly been taken in by the SJW shit thats going around, despite having been mostly above it historically (At least in terms of race/gender/etc)
Though probably not as bad as the liberals with Trudeau
Liberals have seemed really willing to compromise those rights along with the Conservatives
Before 2013, I'd have thought that would be the Democrats. Then social justice happened. And now look where things are. The ACLU is backing away from free speech and there's fake news bills being passed around California.
See
Our analogs for US parties are as follows
Conservatives are a more mild version of republicans
Liberals are quite similar to democrats
NDP is the further left leaning party
They're more.... old school though?
Or at least used to be.
Hence my comment about Jack Layton, which was their leader until 2011
Old school meaning old school socialist?
Kind yeah. NDP was formerly a outright Socialist party, but toned that down somewhat in the late 90's/early 2000's
Not sure how to explain it really
Comparing them to people like Bernie in the US i think actually doesnt work that well
Do they map well to Cortez?
No, not really.
Ok. try this.
Chavez? Castro? 😄
No :p
Guevera?
No.