Message from @pratel

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2018-07-17 08:41:35 UTC  

Guevera?

2018-07-17 08:41:47 UTC  

No.

2018-07-17 08:41:54 UTC  

This was their platform last election

2018-07-17 08:42:04 UTC  

If you read carefully, they mention repealling Bill C-51

2018-07-17 08:42:10 UTC  

The 'anti terrorism' bill

2018-07-17 08:42:20 UTC  

Which is a massive part of why i liked them that election

2018-07-17 08:42:28 UTC  

They were the only party interested in doing that.

2018-07-17 08:42:42 UTC  

Stance on:
1) Minimum Wage.
2) Rent control
3) Nationalization of industries
4) Firearms
5) vices (alcohol, weed, violent media)
6) Social Justice (as defined by feminism and racial politics)
7) Preferred taxes

2018-07-17 08:43:03 UTC  

The platform is useful, but it seems pretty par for the course for Canada from what I can tell.

2018-07-17 08:43:23 UTC  

damnit i misread that last part "Crack down on Senate expenses and LOBSTER Conflict, interest laws" 😦 i was so excited

2018-07-17 08:43:57 UTC  

Oh, two others I forgot, preferred subsidies and defense spending.

2018-07-17 08:48:44 UTC  

1) Dont think they had one. But they're a party that would like a relatively high one.
2) Never mentioned really. Not that ive seen. That kinda goes for all parties in the 2015 election. More of a local issue?
3) NDP is pro-nationalization for industries Canada has tradtionally had nationalized (Hydro is the big thing. Conservatives moved to privatize, NDP strongly dislikes this.)
4) No comment. Canadians are generally quite happy with their firearms laws, though im sure some gun people would prefer them loosened. It's not a big debate here, and wasnt talked about from what i saw.
5) Fine with vices, probably would consider legalizing marijuana like Trudeau is doing, but didnt run on it.
6) Talk about it alot less then Liberals, but some of what the individual party members have said, especially in 2017/2018 makes me feel bleh. I think they'd be significantly more mild about it then liberals though, more worried about class like traditional leftist politics, then race/femininism
7) Liberals have a habit of increasing spending, without compensating enough with revenue. NDP would like to both increase spending and increase taxes. (IIRC they wanted to increase spending by a similar amount to liberals, but actually talked about raising taxes to pay for it. Liberals kinda avoided talking about how they would pay)

2018-07-17 08:49:34 UTC  

Our parties, as of the 2015 election kind of end up
Conservatives : Right
Liberals : Centre Left
NDP : Left

2018-07-17 08:49:49 UTC  

Traditionally the liberals have been centrist or centre right though.

2018-07-17 08:50:04 UTC  

And they tend to vote with conservatives more often then NDP

2018-07-17 08:51:10 UTC  

Sounds like Sanders to me.

On the tax question, what I really meant was if given the choice between say an excise tax or an income tax, which would they choose.

The flier indicated a desire to cut the business tax for 'small' businesses, which seemed kinda odd for a traditional left party.

2018-07-17 08:51:19 UTC  

excise tax?

2018-07-17 08:51:31 UTC  

Alcohol.

2018-07-17 08:51:33 UTC  

Oh yeah, they did run on that.

2018-07-17 08:51:37 UTC  

Cigarettes.

2018-07-17 08:51:39 UTC  

Stuff like that.

2018-07-17 08:51:44 UTC  

Carbon.

2018-07-17 08:51:52 UTC  

They wouldnt really do that. Again more of a local thing here?
Carbon tax they would do though.

2018-07-17 08:51:57 UTC  

Trudeau is trying as well

2018-07-17 08:52:02 UTC  

Interestingly

2018-07-17 08:52:06 UTC  

The Local NDP in Alberta

2018-07-17 08:52:08 UTC  

(Oil sands)

2018-07-17 08:52:16 UTC  

Is fighting strongly against the carbon tax.

2018-07-17 08:52:32 UTC  

Rachel Notely is the local NDP leader in Alberta

2018-07-17 08:52:44 UTC  

Notably Alberta consistently voted conservative before her

2018-07-17 08:52:48 UTC  

But she's quite popular now

2018-07-17 08:53:17 UTC  

And yes, like i was trying to get at before, more class focused, then race/feminism focused.

2018-07-17 08:53:31 UTC  

Which is much like sanders

2018-07-17 08:53:50 UTC  

Though i havent seen them call for taxing the rich to pay for university or some such

2018-07-17 08:54:02 UTC  

So less extreme then sanders in some ways with that.

2018-07-17 08:54:47 UTC  

Heavily pro-union, Pro low small buisness tax, pro heavily progresssive income tax

2018-07-17 08:55:18 UTC  

Ah. there we go. A Union party.

2018-07-17 08:55:32 UTC  

er. labor union party.

2018-07-17 08:55:50 UTC  

Though low taxes on small business is unusual.

2018-07-17 08:55:58 UTC  

Maybe. But its coherent.