Message from @Scarlet

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2018-07-17 08:31:36 UTC  

Man i miss Jack Layton

2018-07-17 08:32:14 UTC  

NDP is electing shitty leaders, Conservatives are pretty shit right now, and the liberals are Trudeau

2018-07-17 08:32:22 UTC  

I just find myself really not being a fan of anybody

2018-07-17 08:32:37 UTC  

It's a less extreme version of how i feel about US politics

2018-07-17 08:33:10 UTC  

I think that's the new normal for everybody at some level.

2018-07-17 08:33:26 UTC  

Furthermore, coalitions shift.

2018-07-17 08:33:41 UTC  

In the US we are in the middle of a very big shift right now.

2018-07-17 08:34:03 UTC  

Once the Democrats come to power and fracture, the shift will be complete.

2018-07-17 08:34:16 UTC  

They can't hold their current divisions entirely.

2018-07-17 08:34:35 UTC  

Or if they do, it would be one **** of an act. Social Justice being the likely glue.

2018-07-17 08:35:04 UTC  

In which social justice would only get more extreme.

2018-07-17 08:35:23 UTC  

The only party we have that is consistently against increasing surveilence powers/compromising what 'free speech' rights we have, is the NDP, but they've seemingly been taken in by the SJW shit thats going around, despite having been mostly above it historically (At least in terms of race/gender/etc)
Though probably not as bad as the liberals with Trudeau

2018-07-17 08:35:44 UTC  

Liberals have seemed really willing to compromise those rights along with the Conservatives

2018-07-17 08:36:50 UTC  

Before 2013, I'd have thought that would be the Democrats. Then social justice happened. And now look where things are. The ACLU is backing away from free speech and there's fake news bills being passed around California.

2018-07-17 08:37:08 UTC  

Who knows anymore.

2018-07-17 08:37:09 UTC  

See

2018-07-17 08:37:19 UTC  

Our analogs for US parties are as follows

2018-07-17 08:37:28 UTC  

Conservatives are a more mild version of republicans

2018-07-17 08:37:35 UTC  

Liberals are quite similar to democrats

2018-07-17 08:37:44 UTC  

NDP is the further left leaning party

2018-07-17 08:37:50 UTC  

They're more.... old school though?

2018-07-17 08:38:04 UTC  

Or at least used to be.

2018-07-17 08:38:14 UTC  

Hence my comment about Jack Layton, which was their leader until 2011

2018-07-17 08:38:24 UTC  

Old school meaning old school socialist?

2018-07-17 08:39:01 UTC  

Kind yeah. NDP was formerly a outright Socialist party, but toned that down somewhat in the late 90's/early 2000's

2018-07-17 08:39:38 UTC  

Not sure how to explain it really

2018-07-17 08:39:58 UTC  

Comparing them to people like Bernie in the US i think actually doesnt work that well

2018-07-17 08:40:16 UTC  

Do they map well to Cortez?

2018-07-17 08:40:22 UTC  

No, not really.

2018-07-17 08:40:36 UTC  

Ok. try this.

2018-07-17 08:40:49 UTC  

Chavez? Castro? 😄

2018-07-17 08:41:29 UTC  

No :p

2018-07-17 08:41:35 UTC  

Guevera?

2018-07-17 08:41:47 UTC  

No.

2018-07-17 08:41:54 UTC  

This was their platform last election

2018-07-17 08:42:04 UTC  

If you read carefully, they mention repealling Bill C-51

2018-07-17 08:42:10 UTC  

The 'anti terrorism' bill

2018-07-17 08:42:20 UTC  

Which is a massive part of why i liked them that election

2018-07-17 08:42:28 UTC  

They were the only party interested in doing that.

2018-07-17 08:42:42 UTC  

Stance on:
1) Minimum Wage.
2) Rent control
3) Nationalization of industries
4) Firearms
5) vices (alcohol, weed, violent media)
6) Social Justice (as defined by feminism and racial politics)
7) Preferred taxes