Valuing nothing nore than satisfaction leaves a sense of vacuity

Thats great becouse hedonism is interested in longterm effects of your actions

Nihilism.... My concept of that is very shallow....

Nihilism has many versions

Power Nihilism is recognize that all existence is the will to power and affirmation

As i said, Hedonism is like communism. Great but doesn't work in reallife

How does it not work and why are doctors and researchers basing their ethics roughly around it?

Because

Hedonism can make some great vivid descriptions

Because everybody has a hedonistic part in his character

Once you are seeking nothing but pleasure eventually that pleasure will nolonger be enough and you will seek more to satisfy you until there isnnothing left

I agree

exactly!

it is in the human nature

Well, yeah. The most extreme hedonists are religous puritans

Doing what they can to avoid infinate pain and gain infinite pleasure

I would argue the Rothschilds of the world are de facto hedonists

They seek material pleasure

@Redneo human beings are deemed to make mistakes. And if you had more pleasure before a certain action (e.g. breakup) you only know afterwards

One cannot experience joy without sorrow. One cannot experience virtue without knowing what vice is.

One cannot appreciate life without the presence of death

And hedonists only search positive experiences

Says who?

If experiencing bad things enhances pleasure afterwards - which it does - it would logicly follow that youd seek out those bad things, too.

If you are a hedonist, that is

Thats not how a hedonist thinks

thats how ascets think

@Mysteriedingens what life style do you live other than Mgtow , and if so are you content.

I think hedonism just got a bad rep becouse everyone and their mom took cyreanics and called it hedonism

The epicurian lifestyle

@ZODD I pursue mindfulness and stoicism

Ok. But are you content

I am not completely content. But i think you can't be completely. I am surrounded by circumstances that limit my control. However i always work towards that goal

mindfulness is defined as moment-by-moment awareness of thoughts, feelings, bodily sensations, and surrounding environment, characterized mainly by "acceptance" which i heavily pursue to have at all time

LoL isn't that a contradiction, in a light manner. Heh. But yes Stoicism is a Man Like Quality. BRAVO

Stoicism is a unreachable goal aswell. Like Hedonism.

LoL

Mindfullness is the middlepath that i think is to pursue

And even with that in stress-situations when your cortisol shoots in it is not completely possible

I tend to write messages to myself i read if i am overwhelmed by stress, which makes your mind undeniably cloudy. It helps to some extent

What lifestyle do you see yourself living in @ZODD

@Mysteriedingens stoicism is unreachable? Why?

Honestly, I just Want my own Mansion and a bunch of whores to fuck

@Kazemaru stoicism is defined by "the endurance of pain or hardship without the display of feelings and without complaint."

That is impossible for a human being

Difficult but not impossible

It goes against the biology of humans

If you feel a feeling of sadness coming because of a certain situation, it is impossible to make it go away, you are only able to suppress it.

A situation doesnt really manage to bring me to sadness.

I know which is why the best course of action is to calmly accept the emotion and express it differently

that is mindfulness

Mindfulness is accepting your feelings rather than trying to kill them

play russian roulette and you can see how far stoicism is possible. Thats what i mean.

Im not going to play russian roulette.

@Redneo Because you fear dying, thats not stoic

which is not a bad thing

Not just becouse of that.

Stoicism is accepting death as a reality

Also becouse im german. If i were to try such a thing id play german roulette. It works like this: You take all the pills your grandfather had left over.......

@Nephil The Pumpkin King There is more to stoicism as there are big manuscripts about it, which is why i still follow some aspects of it like virtue and morality and the point you made. I just don't think you can be completely stoic

I know I recognize i am quick to anger and have violent tendencies

@Redneo lol

@Nephil The Pumpkin King thats why mindfullness is a great thing. It makes you question why you feel something, not suppress the feeling itself. That is a way more realistic path to stoic behaviour and self therapy

Actually most therapists try to make you mindfull by finding the root of your problems as this is the way to resolve many psychological problems

Yep

Just listening into the voice chat

At school grounds will probably pop bybthe voice chat when inget back home

@ZODD dont we all. But that jist domt work in reality. But waifus do. Waifus and dolls

@Mysteriedingens i am stoic 24/7 it is reachable

@Happy Humble Hermit I have a hard time believing this but if you can mentor me on how to become like this, im interested

www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/comments/2krq6v/small_penis_i_am_out/

A littlle change of subject: article time!

I found the original article that initiate the debate about baldness and estrogen: Pitts 1987

im bald, so this strikes my interest

I've checked the article, and....

Is filled with flaws

i mean, yeah, more test = less head hair and more beard hair

my beard is shit lol

Posterior articles and reviews concluded that the correlation between baldness and estrogen in young men is not related

And.... I also discover one article that says that black soybean.... Can fight baldness! I know, its hard to believe, but it is

whew, dodged a bullet, i don't need bitch tits as well

im napping

I've put the articles in the statistics-and-articles section

www.deviantart.com/foxk307/art/Please-read-the-description-567130535

@Iheanacho could you send a screencap?

@Mysteriedingens um i don't really have the time to individually mentor lol

@Happy Humble Hermit I mean i consume your videos - thats something.

seeing how every time I try and talk I'm not allowed to speak, I'll just fuck off

@Mysteriedingens I'll try and talk about stoicism in future videos

I agree with this youtube video: "Why MGTOW Should Have Sex: Motivation to Improve"

I don't like how it's just an ab shot but haha hey that's him

People are saying I'm a youtuber called ownage pranks lol

I thought that too honestly.

You sound similar at times.

MGTOW is one giant conspiracy. You're all one person.

Howdy

Yes there was only ever one man and he decided to not worry about woman. story has it he is still happy and going his own way til this day @machtyn

😄

Hello @Oniichan Of The West! How're you?

Im alright, you?