Says who?

If experiencing bad things enhances pleasure afterwards - which it does - it would logicly follow that youd seek out those bad things, too.

If you are a hedonist, that is

Thats not how a hedonist thinks

thats how ascets think

@Mysteriedingens what life style do you live other than Mgtow , and if so are you content.

I think hedonism just got a bad rep becouse everyone and their mom took cyreanics and called it hedonism

The epicurian lifestyle

@ZODD I pursue mindfulness and stoicism

Ok. But are you content

I am not completely content. But i think you can't be completely. I am surrounded by circumstances that limit my control. However i always work towards that goal

mindfulness is defined as moment-by-moment awareness of thoughts, feelings, bodily sensations, and surrounding environment, characterized mainly by "acceptance" which i heavily pursue to have at all time

LoL isn't that a contradiction, in a light manner. Heh. But yes Stoicism is a Man Like Quality. BRAVO

Stoicism is a unreachable goal aswell. Like Hedonism.

LoL

Mindfullness is the middlepath that i think is to pursue

And even with that in stress-situations when your cortisol shoots in it is not completely possible

I tend to write messages to myself i read if i am overwhelmed by stress, which makes your mind undeniably cloudy. It helps to some extent

What lifestyle do you see yourself living in @ZODD

@Mysteriedingens stoicism is unreachable? Why?

Honestly, I just Want my own Mansion and a bunch of whores to fuck

@Kazemaru stoicism is defined by "the endurance of pain or hardship without the display of feelings and without complaint."

That is impossible for a human being

Difficult but not impossible

It goes against the biology of humans

If you feel a feeling of sadness coming because of a certain situation, it is impossible to make it go away, you are only able to suppress it.

A situation doesnt really manage to bring me to sadness.

I know which is why the best course of action is to calmly accept the emotion and express it differently

that is mindfulness

Mindfulness is accepting your feelings rather than trying to kill them

play russian roulette and you can see how far stoicism is possible. Thats what i mean.

Im not going to play russian roulette.

@Redneo Because you fear dying, thats not stoic

which is not a bad thing

Not just becouse of that.

Stoicism is accepting death as a reality

Also becouse im german. If i were to try such a thing id play german roulette. It works like this: You take all the pills your grandfather had left over.......

@Nephil The Pumpkin King There is more to stoicism as there are big manuscripts about it, which is why i still follow some aspects of it like virtue and morality and the point you made. I just don't think you can be completely stoic

I know I recognize i am quick to anger and have violent tendencies

@Redneo lol

@Nephil The Pumpkin King thats why mindfullness is a great thing. It makes you question why you feel something, not suppress the feeling itself. That is a way more realistic path to stoic behaviour and self therapy

Actually most therapists try to make you mindfull by finding the root of your problems as this is the way to resolve many psychological problems