Well of course Pleasure and happiness are completely different things

But in reallife, it does not work.

Pleasure in that sense describes things such as satisfaction with your research, too

and net-pleasure is pleasure minus pain. So, a hedonist wouldnt be slobbing away on heroin knowing the pain it will eventualy bring

Pleasure is short term satisfaction, happines is long term satisfaction, imho

It Doesn't Work Because there is an imbalance in what your doing instead of what your sustaining

If your happiness is bound to something you have no control over, like it is often in reallife, it contradicts itself

I would argue happiness is overratef and solace is much better

Solace?

The fact that nothing lasts forever and all things are temporal in this world would lead two outcomes: Nihilistic Hedonism or Epicurian Aestheticism

How can hedonism be nihilistic?

Or, in what sense are you using the term nihilistic?

Because hedonism gives no purpose. And thus it has no meaning

it gives the purpose to strive towards net-pleasure

It has much more factors. Hedonism is either minimalistic or a freedom of choice. Freedom is often increased with wealth. And in most cases for wealth, you need longtermgoals

Valuing nothing nore than satisfaction leaves a sense of vacuity

Thats great becouse hedonism is interested in longterm effects of your actions

Nihilism.... My concept of that is very shallow....

Nihilism has many versions

Power Nihilism is recognize that all existence is the will to power and affirmation

As i said, Hedonism is like communism. Great but doesn't work in reallife

How does it not work and why are doctors and researchers basing their ethics roughly around it?

Because

Hedonism can make some great vivid descriptions

Because everybody has a hedonistic part in his character

Once you are seeking nothing but pleasure eventually that pleasure will nolonger be enough and you will seek more to satisfy you until there isnnothing left

I agree

exactly!

it is in the human nature

Well, yeah. The most extreme hedonists are religous puritans

Doing what they can to avoid infinate pain and gain infinite pleasure

I would argue the Rothschilds of the world are de facto hedonists

They seek material pleasure

@Redneo human beings are deemed to make mistakes. And if you had more pleasure before a certain action (e.g. breakup) you only know afterwards

One cannot experience joy without sorrow. One cannot experience virtue without knowing what vice is.

One cannot appreciate life without the presence of death

And hedonists only search positive experiences

Says who?

If experiencing bad things enhances pleasure afterwards - which it does - it would logicly follow that youd seek out those bad things, too.

If you are a hedonist, that is

Thats not how a hedonist thinks