Message from @Nephil The Pumpkin King
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Valuing nothing nore than satisfaction leaves a sense of vacuity
Thats great becouse hedonism is interested in longterm effects of your actions
Nihilism.... My concept of that is very shallow....
Nihilism has many versions
Power Nihilism is recognize that all existence is the will to power and affirmation
As i said, Hedonism is like communism. Great but doesn't work in reallife
How does it not work and why are doctors and researchers basing their ethics roughly around it?
Because
Hedonism can make some great vivid descriptions
Because everybody has a hedonistic part in his character
Once you are seeking nothing but pleasure eventually that pleasure will nolonger be enough and you will seek more to satisfy you until there isnnothing left
I agree
exactly!
it is in the human nature
Well, yeah. The most extreme hedonists are religous puritans
Doing what they can to avoid infinate pain and gain infinite pleasure
I would argue the Rothschilds of the world are de facto hedonists
They seek material pleasure
@Redneo human beings are deemed to make mistakes. And if you had more pleasure before a certain action (e.g. breakup) you only know afterwards
One cannot experience joy without sorrow. One cannot experience virtue without knowing what vice is.
And hedonists only search positive experiences
Says who?
If experiencing bad things enhances pleasure afterwards - which it does - it would logicly follow that youd seek out those bad things, too.
If you are a hedonist, that is
Thats not how a hedonist thinks
thats how ascets think
@Mysteriedingens what life style do you live other than Mgtow , and if so are you content.
I think hedonism just got a bad rep becouse everyone and their mom took cyreanics and called it hedonism
The epicurian lifestyle
@ZODD I pursue mindfulness and stoicism
Ok. But are you content
I am not completely content. But i think you can't be completely. I am surrounded by circumstances that limit my control. However i always work towards that goal
mindfulness is defined as moment-by-moment awareness of thoughts, feelings, bodily sensations, and surrounding environment, characterized mainly by "acceptance" which i heavily pursue to have at all time
LoL isn't that a contradiction, in a light manner. Heh. But yes Stoicism is a Man Like Quality. BRAVO
Stoicism is a unreachable goal aswell. Like Hedonism.
LoL
Mindfullness is the middlepath that i think is to pursue
And even with that in stress-situations when your cortisol shoots in it is not completely possible
I tend to write messages to myself i read if i am overwhelmed by stress, which makes your mind undeniably cloudy. It helps to some extent
What lifestyle do you see yourself living in @ZODD