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Discussion is Incarceration in the US
it's basically Heather whippin out the useful facts and Thaddeus kinda just barfin em out without any sense
he's got this whole "well if we just legalize it whabam, no more crime" ... I guess he doesn't think that the world is a nuanced place
I had previously intended to read Thaddeus' book but now that I see how much of a brat he can be I think I'll strike that from the reading list
You know what, this video is a lot better, cuts it down to just the good parts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyfX5UCAe3A
The best breakdown of immigration I've heard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zKaR1wrfUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwmOQNfO560 about the Spencer debate. My vid is a little bit all over the place, but then again, the stream wasn't exctly short. Hope you enjoy? ๐
@โฟ Mittens โฟ is it alright to punch a Nazi?
depends... is he punching someone else or you?
woops, not directed at me lol
https://twitter.com/kozical/status/950144037000024069 jewish women listed twice ?
So is there an ice age coming or no?
yes
Also if global warming is real and CO2 is high, shouldn't we see a spike in the temp anomaly graph? ๐ค
Do we? No.
Ask the Null Pointers, durtle.
They know the truth
To leftists, "right-wing" is just an insult.
I'd say the relationship is mutual
Really us vs them
Blind tribalism
He can get fucked.
These are the guys who made the original film, and it's full of retweets for the meme.
I remember seeing the vice documentary on those guys
And i will watch
@Rat.Resistance FYI you don't need to post that, it gets posted in <#372512471954620417>
Yeah, I posted it in the wrong server, sorry x)
its ok
we have a lot of nice things that other servers don't have
My phone does thos weird thing where it doesn't go directly to something when I get a notification, so I end up forgetting that I am still in a spesific server
Let's try having a more insightful discussion about it in this channel.
I think Sargon chose the wrong label. Or the wrong description.
What could be a better description against Social Justice? Maybe True Justice?
Liberalist sounds appealing to people on the left that aren't crazy, people on the center-left, maybe even center-right. But not conservatives.
Then, there's the question, what would being a "liberalist" entail?
One of the big problems of people that are fed up with Social Justice and Feminism: they don't know how exactly to articulate against SWJs and Feminists. Or against the Alt Right even.
That's one of the problems with certain "skeptic" channels, they do a response video full of insults and jokes, but no actual arguments. Undoomed comes to mind.
When a SJW cries "cultural appropriation", people sometimes say "no it's not", when that shouldn't be the point of contention. It's whether cultural appropriation is bad or not.
So not knowing what is the point of disagreement often lets people fall into "traps" in debates that do nothing but score "points." Like Kraut not even knowing what to argue against, tilting at windmills.
JBP is quite enlightening on this, when he explains exactly why he opposes certain progressive views.
yes, there's a lot of "point scoring" going on
JBP said it himself, if something sounds wrong, you can just express that. "That doesn't sound right to me. I can't quite explain why right now, but I'll get back to that at some other time."
a lot of it seems to serve the youtube economy of likes and views
I think what would benefit the "community" more would be for Sargon to list a set of principles for people that want to be active voices against progressivism/social justice.
I don't like the idea of organizing it
I feel like he is trying to pivot coming off like a lil bitch into "we need to start a movement"
I think he wants something to get done, but doesn't want to risk being responsible for it, as if it would concede some moral high ground.
Although he already calls himself an activist, right?
What would you rather have? People orbiting an individual, or having a cause/purpose?
no leaders exactly
someone just needs to bring the bantz
there needs to be Trumps of every ideological variety
then we can have a healthy and memeable discourse
I understand as, that's the name that he chosed for himself
If people want to follow, so be it
One thing to think about.
Maybe he is trying to prove that he is not a leader, by creating a movement that no one will follow
That's some 2.5 D chess!
he should just ask for a rematch
Scroll up and you'll see Andy is preparing a second debate already.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/950527640489857024
^Tucker's twitter thread digging into Damore filing suit against Google
oh shit son
a rematch
we read through that lawsuit in <#372507611284766722> on monday, and I pasted that exact quote then
[3:37 AM] DanielKO: What could be a better description against Social Justice? Maybe True Justice?
Anti-Identitarian?
[3:39 AM] DanielKO: Liberalist sounds appealing to people on the left that aren't crazy, people on the center-left, maybe even center-right. But not conservatives.
Yes, but surely, any conservative worth his salt understands what it means and can put aside his feelings if he wants to "join" (whatever that means)
[4:00 AM] DanielKO: Then, there's the question, what would being a "liberalist" entail?
According to sargons video, he/someone should produce a list of principles, so I guess we'll know soon enough
[4:02 AM] DanielKO: One of the big problems of people that are fed up with Social Justice and Feminism: they don't know how exactly to articulate against SWJs and Feminists. Or against the Alt Right even.
That's actually the problem with any person trying to argue against any ideology when they're just a normal person with a family that has other daily things to worry about
Doctor Randomercam made a video talking about how an "anti-" denomination is a weak substrate for a community.
I think the idea is not that we just hate SJWs, it's that our principles are absolutely incompatible with their ideology. Some hate SJWs because bad targets, not bad tactics.
yes, it's facebook cropped, and no I cbf finding the source atm (god forbid the uploader provide *that* in the description) but it's still a fun exchange
its not fun because its retarded
I felt that burn
what the fuck
can we just sum that up, he's an anarcho-socialist-libertarian democrat that wants workers to control the means of production?
and you're not allowed three houses
Bernie can have three though, because he's a *democratic* socialist, not a *libertarian* one
horree sheet
Charlie Kirk debated Hasan Piker? How did I miss this?
Piker is like a younger, dumber Cenk
Come to think of it, pretty sure he might actually be related to Cenk, which is how he got his job in the first place
I can only get so erect
no more papi stali
Socialists get the ice pick too
lol
kek
I have not watched it yet, but I haven't really been keeping track of what brendan did after he was ousted from mozilla, so I will
So what do you all think about Sargon video with the term โliberalistโ
The purpose isn't clear.
i think Sargon was just butthurt over the spencer thing
eternally buttmad
seems so
Spencer got exposed as wanting an aristocracy.
Doesn't matter what happens to Sargon.
they're both idiots
Sargon is a sophist and Spencer is a paid shill
At least one isnโt delusional enough to believe that they will be KANGZ in the hwite ethnostate
maybe this is credit to Sargon? but there is at least a lot of open criticism of him here
I don't sense a circle jerk
cool
cool
cool
Get the SJW's cut in half with logic and reason and focus on the real problems
Just gonna leave this there so yalls can share to anyone that says we Koreans dont appreciate Trump.
At least the older generations like em more
well, err, actually, china and SK and other nations have brought both NK and the US to the table at least 5-6 times the past 30 years
and every time, the US has fucked it up
what your president is saying is just asskissing the donald
which I don't have a problem with
lol speak the truth and people will become angry
could he have had this leaked as red meat for his base to cover for the daca negotions?
i mean, that would be fucking beyond brilliant
GRRRRRR DRUMPF I CAN'T BELIEVE HE CALLED COUNTRIES THAT HAVE HIGH POVERTY RATES, SOCIALIST PROPAGANDA LEFT AND RIGHT, AND ALLOW FOR BARBARIANS TO RUN THE COUNTRIES "SHITHOLES"! PUTTING QUOTATION MARKS AROUND "SHITHOLE" MAKES ME LOOK LIKE I CARE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE!
I mean you guys have to admit that's kinda racist of him to say
How?
Are you implying that only minorities come from shithole countries
either way the president of the fucking united states shouldnt be using such labels to describe other countries imo
Some countries are shitholes
Bottom line is , it's racist
Haitians and Norwegians are different people and he prefers one over the other. That's racist
Having a preference for who has the privilege of coming into a sovereign country is not racist
So he would be ok with a rare black person from Norway? He sees no difference?
I do not think for Trump
Maybe one of their new Arab migrants?
And i do not speak for him
Well I can speak for him... of course he doesn't want a black person from Norway
Norwegians and Haitians are at quite distinct branches of the human species.
That's racist man
You are the only one pointing this out
The statement he made is only racist if you think only minorities come from shithole countries
You have projected your opinions onto a statement
Are Norwegians white, and Haitians black?
some white countries are shitholes... no wait... i cant think of one... nvmd
Bc in my mind they obviously are
Canada
true
but its pretty
Still a shithole in my opinion
you only need to nuke a handful of cities to clear it right up'
pls
soon
pls
thx
srry
Speaking of nukes
What does everyone think of North Korea at the moment
Think theyโre gonna start the first nuclear exchange?
No
i hope they have bad aim and hit Ottawa
Iโm new so I donโt really know others opinions on here lol
What benefit would they gain?
We are basically libertarians
Gross
Iโm centrist af
lolertarians
Also gross
A bit left leaning though
Yeah I also classify myself as radical Centrist sometimes
Like that graph but 3d
Bingo
Lmao
Thief
That was intellectual property
Would you download a sexbot shaped like mark zucc
Are we allowed to discuss Sargon/Spencer?
Or is that too controversial
Sargon is a butthurt sophist
Spencer is a dirty shill plant
You can talk about whatever you want
^
Rule 9
Yeh
lol there are rules?
Idk Spencer made some good points
Like about John Locke
For instance I believe those with outie belly buttons should be purged from the gene pool
Locki
he is a fraud
a plant
That is my stance and I do not apologize
I don't get the whole Jewish thing??
^watches rick n morty
^knows what rick & morty is
Like if you're going to be upset at a religion Islam is the real threat
Not "the Jews"
Thereโs just a controversial coincidence that Jews are a vast part of da won pahcent
both Judaism and Islam are existential threats to western civilization... but thats none of my business
Jews are white people with a different religion...
I really don't get the anti-semitism thing
Me neither
Like I get it Haitians are kinda dirty, uncivilized, and not very intelligent
I get the memes though
That's racist but ok whatever
Itโs a meme you dip
And then people just randomly are so vehemently against people of a different FAITH who are really fucking successful
What's a meme?
Something above your iq
What's the meme
To be fair you have to have a high iq to understand memes
People aren't actually anti-semetic?
That's just a meme? Lol
Anti-fa is a terrorist organization
Course aint no one here disagreein there
there are
there's at least one who might disagree
I'm not sure, but he has previously said he's a fan of antifa
"Lobbying does not appear to bring significant tangible benefits in terms of award of government contracts or the success in getting bills passed by the US Congress."
So
My gfโs parents might get deported as her father isnโt a US citizen
The fuck do I say to her
[citation needed]
seems obvious to me that you buy her life with goats
"I'll help your dad pack his things."
"don't let the wall hit you on the way out"
"In this article, we argue that the mafia arose as a response to an exogenous shock in the demand for oranges and lemons, following Lind's discovery in the late eighteenth century that citrus fruits cured scurvy."
Is anyone here a member of a political party?
in which country?
any
@Kunarian I am a registered member of a political party... why?
I wanna die
<:think_hitlerdidnothingwrong:378717099952177162> FIRE UP THE OVENS <:think_hitlerdidnothingwrong:378717099952177162>
He's running his own pedophilia ring, how cute.
This is probably better for <#376763825904418816> though.
It legitamately makes want me to just drink bleach and be done with this world
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