@Uilliam Cionnaoith - MD lol yeah, that too

Mouth guards lol

Sanctioned fights with antifa only goys!

I'll be checking gloves

This is the way to go with shields to not look larpy

Clear, modern shields would look the best

Was my exact idea

Concealed carry only because open carry is retarded. You will get cracked in the head from behind and they will steal your pistol. Bring your rifle and plates in the car parked nearby, pistol concealed with enough ammo to get to the car if shit really goes down. That's worst case, I doubt antifa will really even do much with the sheer number of people we have.

I don't think antifa wants to really kill us. it's kind of like how the Joker doesn't want to kill Batman. He would have nothing to do if Batman was dead. Antifa only exists because of people like us. If we go, they go.

They aren't going to do anything. Just look at what happened in Austin on may day. They were open carrying and they still got the shit kicked out of them and had all of their stuff stolen. The most they would do is try to stab people but the police and our sheer numbers should deter that

Antifa doesn't attack unless they outnumber at least 3 to 1 and even then they might not

Very true , most of them have never been in an actual fight and don't train at all. It's really not even a fair fight for them unless it's 3 on one.

Since Berkely there haven't really been any major confrontations because they realize that they can't win, especially when there is a police presence

I would like them to underestimate us...

Might be a good idea to get some of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MCYSH6L/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496859205&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=hickory+stick&dpPl=1&dpID=31V0PJy0msL&ref=plSrch

You can always trim it to make it more concealable

Just get an asp with a holster.

^even better, didn't see those

It is a gray area like most of the country.

Depends on the circumstance.

@Andrew--

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The best defense is a bunch of alphas who are ready to throw down and alert.

👆

Yeah everyone wants to see and hear but there needs a to be a security perimeter who purely watching the enemy and communicating

You aren't going to stop a brick, but your buddy can pull, push or yell "heads up"

As the movement grows I think it will be important to start some sort of localized training programs throughout each state; perhaps some groups are already doing this

The nature of our movement is such that we need to be able to mobilize a semi-trained militia for these types of events

Indeed we already are in some places.

@Matthias I will be getting with you on that topic soon

Nice

@Izat - VA what region are you in? If you have enough people organize one yourself and contact the people in your region in this chat too.

Guys. We are not starting Rahowa in August. If you are absolutely adamant about bringing more than pepper spray or a CCW, keep it to yourself.

For those of you who aren't afraid to use your fist, I recommend these, good protection for your hands without the legal snafus that could come with hard armor.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AD11AD6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

@Andrew-- I'm in Lynchburg, hoping to be able to meet some local goys to get something together

@Izat - VA Lynchburg here.

@Izat - VA when you said VA did you mean Virginia or Vanguard America? Lol I assumed you meant the latter.

lol I meant the Virginia

*meant Virginia

Personally. I would try to coordinate EVERYONE wearing UVA gear if it was me organizing. It's $10-30 and two months. That would be hilarious optics.

I think I'm going to get a full riot helmet. They might not engage in fist fights but they sure will be throwing things. I don't want a brick in the face.
https://www.securityprousa.com/secpro-police-riot-helmet

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019Y83C80/ref=asc_df_B019Y83C805021086/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=395033&creativeASIN=B019Y83C80&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167134995577&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11244169157089406786&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007779&hvtargid=pla-307839335230

This is very simple. We figure out how many people we estimate to attend then designate 5-10%. As a security force. If we do shields they need to all be THE SAME. Optics are very important and the Nordic resistance is doing this the right way. If everyone shows up with their own versions of things we look disorganized and like common rabble. If everyone wears a white shirt and khakis and our security has the exact same shield and helmets then we look legitimate.
We don't need to reinvent the wheel here. We have to have uniformity in everything we do if we are serious, no rogues no lone wolfs no individJEWals

White shirt, khaki pants. Clear shields, black gloves, black helmets. Based on an estimated attendance of 400 we would need between 20-40 people to commit to security which means spending money on the security uniform,

Let's do this right

I see no problem with each actual group designing their own shields, so long as they form a cohesive block along the line

We're already going to have a mix of helmets, rectangular shields and round shields

Yes I understand the current affairs. But in the future we should strive for uniformity,

Agreed, definitely

What logo are you going with?

And what helmets? I will see if our guys want to do the same

I'll pull the links up in a little bit

as far as logos go, its our state organization's symbol

ultimately we need a US equivalent to the European Identitarian lambda

a movement symbol, rather than an organizations symbol

I agree completely. What we should also consider is dressing security the exact same but giving them a different patch to denote organization

Yes that would be most ideal. Allow each group its sovereignty but when coming together to unite the right we must LOOK united in appearance.

This is extremely critical

I see little reason not to use this logo, ultimately.

We can send a message of unity across the Eurosphere.

This is a civilization all conflict. It's not American Genocide, its White Genocide.

It would show that implicitly we are the same movement that Murdoch Murdoch is showing. It's also standard Anti-Communist colors and has a proven track record of triggering the SPLC.

These are the sheilds that vanguard America has

I agree with using that flag as well we should contact the Europeans to see if they are fine with us co opting that as a symbol

We don't have to ask anyone. We rally behind it. Simple as that

I'm in favor of that symbol.

Yeah there's not exactly a trademark department for revolutionary and insurgent organizations

They are already pan-European, so it's not like we are flying a Nordic Resistance Movement or Golden Dawn flag as ours. That said....

I do like having representative flags of those organizations at certain types of our events to show that we are part of a coalition of likeminded groups.

Here's another good banner idea.

Needs to have a towel on his head

Needs to be spelled EVROPA

I put together a quick thing to explain the basics of making a shield.

I put this together to explain the basics of making a shield

I put this together to explain the basics of using a shield

😂

Epic

@Heinz - MI had good advice you spergs lol

I love this.

https://www.amazon.com/Polycarbonate-Antiriot-Transparent-Protective-Portable/dp/B071RY7XZ3/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496970979&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=clear+riot+shield+round
I was looking at these bucklers.

The official right Shield of the Great American houseboat

I'll make sure we have stickers to give out, lol.

@Roscoe Are you coming?

@everyone I'll be at the hotel at 1300 (1pm) if anyone is here already. Spread the word.

@Kurt14Lipper I'll be there with bells on. Or at least an Exo shirt.

Alright, if we're expecting over 200 attendees we need another 190-200 bullwhips, who can bring there own and who needs a sponsor?

Might as well reset this now

Alright, here's what we do. We get whips, call them Islamic love strings, and say that we are showing Allah's love by whipping people. It will be islamophobic to oppose us.

We will be unstoppable literal white sharia.

That's slightly less insane than my swastika laden, open carry demonstration on the Washington Mall concept.

https://youtu.be/pBVtph48Fqc

You mean open whip carry muslamonazi March on D.C.?

No last night I was being a jackass with the Va and Md VA guys who where complaining about muh optics.