My take isn’t that there is a universal “best” form of government. Some are better than others, generally speaking, but the validity and utility of a particular style of governance are often dependent upon a number of factors: historical, cultural, religious, racial, etc.

Monarchy gets points for longevity, though.

@TMatthews While I agree the possibility of a monarchy in the U.S. is lower due to the culture we are brought up in as stated earlier there defiantly is not anything contradictory behind American Identity and monarchy. It is possible for a country to go against past aggressions and find the best possible outcome.

I would trust a bunch of peasants to sort it out together over "muh kings son"

@Jawa Implying that monarchy is the best possible outcome lmao

@Jacob i woudln't

sorry

@TMatthews Depending on the situation it can be

most humans are stupid

@Reinhard Wolff haven’t seen that picture in a while

All forms of government are good for a niche situation

@TMatthews I agree it can't exist in this modernity, but I wouldn't say it was bad for the time.

@ophiuchus I remember, too

Leadership of the best. Is what we ought to strive for.

How we choose to define the criteria for "best", I'm open to ideas.

To install traditionalism I would argue Monarchy or Fascism is the way to go

@Jawa this

or maybe a mix

fascism for 20 years and then a moanrchy

or smthing

The Netherlands during the early 1900's has the ideal government for most people I would state

Most humans are stupid, but the average is a better bet than betting on one guy to turn out well

I would read into it tbh

No fascist govt is going to give up control after any amount of time... <:really:453005408064241674>

@Tyler0317 people with more cows are better than people with less cows

Inevitably, you will end up with king retard

@Jawa you have a link to read about the netherlands?

@Tyler0317 I'll look for one

@Jacob people actually turn out to be more stupid when they are in a group than alone

First step is mandatory boot camp for all high school graduates(including the job specific training after basic)

the group iq is the lowest iq in the group divided by 2

okay now sure us some proof of that

@Sacramento 100% agreed

@Tyler0317 Cant find one that significantly describes it to the extent I would like to provide

@Jacob i'll dm something to you

@Jacob I don't really have a dog in the fight, but to counter your retard son king, kings have been getting couped and assassinated since kings existed.

and again,
>implying monarchy is rule of one man

>inb4 (((goldstein)))

@Tyler0317 Basically it's a constitutional monarchy with a lot of restrictions on the monarch that allows for both authority and democracy to be achieved.

@Deleted User True, but that takes away the main benefit monarchy can offer, which is the stability o a long time ruler

@YourFundamentalTheorum I there's a rule about archiving all links

@Sacramento woof forgot that one

@Jawa roger

http://archive.is/zMdLn

bam

Monarchy today would be largely the rule of the king's advisers and an even less accountable bureaucracy than we have today

Even a good king can't supervise everything

well it's still better than an international clique supervising everything

(((Kings advisers)))

the biggest problem today is probably lack of accountability

Historically, monarchs have often fallen in debt to (((international financiers))) of their wars, but democracy hardly proved any more immune to subversion so I won't press that point too hard

monarchs are also a much better rallying point than a democracy

people would rather die for a monarch

than a president

who will be gone in 4 years

*8...

i'm talking about kamala harris here

@YourFundamentalTheorum I think people would rather die for "the republic" than "the monarch"

@YourFundamentalTheorum I disagree completely. People would rather die for their nation and their people, not for some random royal family. Perhaps that's different where the monarchy has been in place for centuries, but not here

@Sacramento idk I would not die for any republic

but that's me

@Deleted User I'm not implying that. Retardo president would be pretty bad, even though presidents aren't dictators.

And couping and assassinating isn't something good to depend on.

@YourFundamentalTheorum Then what would you die for?

@Sacramento God and Tsar

I would die for my people, not a system of government per se. That said, if the race issue was settled and we somehow had a monarchy, I'd try to tear it down because that is not what I want for my people

I'd die for Trump Kahn tbh

@Jacob when in the case of monarchy though, my point is it's exponentially easier to accomplish than any other governance

Gentlemen, it's 1:20 AM here in TN.

Thank you all for the stimulating conversation.

🛏

@TMatthews Your people and your governing body are supposed to be synonymous. Maybe not these days, but that's how I meant it

Everyone knows who Donald Trump is, most conservatives could barely explain the concept of "The Republic"

Go with what you know

@Sacramento Government by and for the people is something to die for, on the understanding that "the people" means just us whites, and that it cannot be completely democratic

I like elections. I dislike universal suffrage

whoever mentioned lack of responsibility, it was caused by the republic. The republic disseminates responsibility from representative to representative. Meanwhile an absolute monarch is responsible for everything, absolutely everything to God.

@YourFundamentalTheorum That was a really good quote, but the problems I mentioned still stand.

Also, there are others ways of resolving the problem of dumb masses than monarchy.

@Jacob htere is no fool proof way, so I as a religious person would put my trust in God and adovcate for the only God-approved form of govt in the Bible.

to put it simply.

Just because they're responsible for it doesn't mean monarchs automatically will get the best results, especially if there's nothing to punish poor performance

well

I'm not particularly religious, so that won't do much for me

Same

North Korea is pretty much a monarchy. Total rule, hereditary role, etc. And this is in modern times.

i'm a juche nationalist

jk

Ok, this is an epic idea

ffs not that again

>candace owens

Imagine if my dad was a monarch. He'd be pretty disappointed in how the monarchy turned out.

I've noticed that monarchists tend to be ultra-religious (usually Catholic) and yearning for the good old days before the Reformation when everything was orderly and theocratic. Not an attack. Just an observation. As a godless agnostic myself, I can't say that I relate

I loved it when I made her meet patrick little.

Based

@TMatthews imo monarchy and hierarchy in general is the natural order. But you can have your own opinion

Based MAGA deplorable 😎

even the old germanic and particularly slavic tribes had a leader or a "knyaz"

Real <@&488531212437159936> hours, who up?

h-howdy

the only real slavic republics were (((merchant))) republics

Huh?

I still have the role F

i'm talking about the likes of Novgorod