¡Jose Antonio, Presente!

I was literally typing that lol

PRESENTE!

PRESENTE!

this is nice to see

*blocks your Falangist revolution*

wasn't Franco a cuckservative monarchist?

he had the chance to make spain great again

but no, he had to put a B*urbon on the throne

I've not heard the phrase cuckservative monarchist yet

Anything is possible in stage 9 clown world

@Deleted User i'm refering to the conservatives that one famous failed painter refered to

the old elite

who wanted everything to be like the old ways

I understand

Franco incorporated elements of Spanish political tradition. This is normal for fascists. Mussolini technically kept the monarchy in Italy too. Mosley wanted to retain the British Parliament. Spain didn't really go downhill until his successor decided to make it a democracy and socialists took over

Franco is what we should all strive to be

He was also staunchly pro-Catholic. Ideology always has to fit the population. I like Franco, but his particular style and stances don't fit America. I still think that we can and should reclaim the founding fathers as identitarian figures

Franco has been described as a “conservative authoritarian” but I think reactionary suffices

Restoring the monarchy was a poor choice, though.

Franco was def not a fascist of any kind

>Restoring the Monarchy was a poor choice

>Monarchy
>Can be bad

*slaps European history book on table*

Swaziland is an absolute monarchy

OOF

Yes, when the monarch quickly installs a democratic liberal regime.

*states what sovereign right is*

Swaziland is the only country in Africa to recognize Taiwan as the true China

@Reinhard Wolff he should have put a Habsburg monarch, or a hohenzollern if he was desperate

Actually its the Kingdom of Eswatini now bigots

There’s more AIDS per capita in that country than people

Swaziland?

Yes

Literally over 1/4th of the population

Just looked up the aids and came across a cool site

Yeah that one

I personally blame the Spanish high command and people for allowing that to happen tbh

Highest percentage in the world

notice that figure only says adult @ophiuchus

Meanwhile

After fighting a war that cost your country 1/4th of it's population you would think they would understand but alas peasants will be peasants

Idk why it says n/a

Monarchies are problematic for the same reasons democracies are.

Monarchy-One weakling ruins everything
Democracy-Degenerate Plebians ruin everything

>thinking monarchy is one man ruling

Mixed system, for the win.

I still support having a constitutional republic, but I think we need a test to vote

Actually figuring from population data the US has an HIV prevalence of 0.337734111145226%

Rounding is big gay

It can be unbiased. Name all 50 states. Name at least half the presidents. Etc

@Tyler0317 I mostly agree with that. As I believe you want a monarch at the top with a democratic base that will take care of the smaller forms of government.

Monarchies are arguably much easier to fix @Tyler0317

assassinations and nailing to a tree used to do the trick

Any monarchy with real power wouldn't fly today (especially not in America) because nobody believes in divine right and it therefore lacks a claim to legitimacy

(NOT ENDORSING VIOLENCE)

lmao is that isreal in the bottom right

Rate of HIV in Swaziland vs the US is 80.5:1

If One were required be a property owner/tax payer/military veteran
to vote.

Problem solved

@TMatthews They'll believe in divine right once the church has major power within the state

I know a hyper leftists girl who thinks there should be a test to vote

oy vey

>Isreal
>Europe

Baffling to me how that’s controversial

@Jawa That ship has sailed, my bro

I'm sorry, but monarchy is dumb. Sure, personality traits are heritable, but there's way too much variation to guarantee that the king's son is going to be fit for leadership. Might as well roll a dice.

@Jacob are you obsessed with EU4?

If you can’t pick out what state you live in on a map you don’t get to decide how your country is governed

@Jawa No they won't. Churches don't even preach that today. If you're suggesting mandatory religious indoctrination plus a monarchy, you're going against literally everything that is American

@Jacob do you propose a democratic leadership then? because then we will just run into the same problems we have today

It's not about heribility it's about grooming from a young age. A leader that is groomed from the age of 12 will be better than a leader that puts their own advantages first with various forms of political pork and other forms of lobbying.

uhhh how does EUIV come into this?

>rolling the dice

>random params of successors

Democracy with a severely restricted franchise

@ophiuchus woof, prime ground for a socialist revolution

@TMatthews Mate I hate to break it to you but if a nations identity is based on "no king" than it has nothing to build upon. America is more than just an anti-monarchy state.

You can't guarantee that the monarch will be good. If education worked like that, then civnats could make everyone a constitution loving, law abiding, tax paying, republican

No, democracy. Constitutional Republic.

You can't however you have a elective primenougure where the king chooses the best successor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_government
My current preference.

@YourFundamentalTheorum lol isn't Sweden a monarchy? Ya dude I'd take democracy over "just give it to the king's doing", even if democracy isn't ideal

sweden isn't an absolute monarchy

it's a (((constitutional))) monarchy

where the king is a literal puppet

How did it end up that way?

Peasants

I'm not aware if there's a single legitimate monarchy left

@Jawa Not just "no kings" but literally the entirety of US history comes from an origin that was fighting monarchy then crafting a balanced republic (the longest enduring one in history)

the tl;dr peasants and feudalism

Sweden was an absolute monarchy for a long time

Even if you from from a young age, there's a lot of variables in how kids turn out

I agree, but I don't think those are good grounds for giving the power to the uneducated masses

*Gustavus Adolphus, libera et imperaaa*

and lemmings

Neither of my parents intended for me to be a white identitarian yet here I am

ever read the dialogue with Meno?

In the modern age, monarchy cannot exist like it once did. It's probably the second worst political ideology behind anarchism

Plato talks about htis issue