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I feel like if you have much of any socialism it will every grow until you pretty much have Communism.
โIdeally,โ the state and the people are a family, metaphorically.
Ironically, for as much as the Boers are touted about as paragons of capitalistic development, if you actually look at how their economy, and particularly public services were structured, it was basically lower-case "n," lower-case "s" national socialism.
I have objections to most social policies in this country now because my money is going to fund people who actively hate me because I am a white man and who would literally never do the same were I in their position.
@Wilhelm capitalism undermines the church and the family.
Why strive to have a family or children when you could have a nice car, or a lavish life of sexual freedom and luxuries? Why have religion when you have all the money and the power to do whatever you please, like a god?
Capitalism will monetize the destruction of morality. Thatโs why things are how they are now. Thatโs why MTV exists, why gay weddings exist, why pornography exists.
And capitalism in no way, will ever reward dignified ethics
@Wilhelm That's like saying if you have any bit of capitalism it will grow into corporate tyranny
Some may choose that life but they will find that it is meaningless and will have to except that they must have morals to live a happy life
Gays, and Trannies and (((empowered))) women and peacocking brown males are ideal consumers. Pozz, anti-white world is FOR international, left-corporate capitalism
I believe in the right to work yourself into whatever luxury you wish for, but I however, do not believe humans are entitled to destroy nature or values to achieve those luxuries
Even if you look at Sweden, and I don't see what they have, or even what they had in the mid-70s as an ideal model, they had some of the highest taxation in the world to fund all of their programs, but they also had perpetually balanced budgets, and by virtue of the fact that everyone in the country was basically the equivalent of, at least, a fourth-cousin, they felt guilty about taking advantage of welfare, and so largely didn't.
Communism ignores vital realities that are important for personal happiness, penalizes innovation and the drive to work towards a better station, and inherently begets eternal revolution. Capitalism, in an unfettered sense, leads to a worship of greed, *avaritia gratia avaritis,* and leads people to value profit over the wellbeing of the state.
@NITRODUBS at what point is it destruction? Most companies either do voluntarily, or are forced by the state to become net-zero in waste.
Iโm about to finish a degree in finance, believe me, these people are not our friends.
Could we talk this out on the general voice.
maybe for a few minutes
I'm gonna have stuff to do later
anyone else want to hop in?
@NITRODUBS Could you join I want to understand your view
Long story short, though, there are a lot of ideas that I'm willing to entertain, and even test on a local basis, and I think that that can be sustained, so long as we retain radically free speech laws, are armed to the teeth, and have private education, albeit possibly with vouchers, so that access is sufficiently widespread so as to be electorally feasible.
Iโll hop in for a little bit
And destruction, generally, is when you begin to destroy vital parts of an ecosystem, or create noticeable or irreversible changes the general cycles of an ecosystem
My headset crapped out, so I don't have a mic, but I can listen in, lol.
Capitalism has to be restricted to protect the environment, but it's not as simple as capitalism = degenerate. The market generally provides what people demand. It's the media that is convincing people to demand vices
Check out @KTHopkinsโs Tweet: https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1050290347279077376?s=09
@Wilhelm @Jacob @NITRODUBS @TMatthews The most essential thing about identiarianism is that we're all more-or-less rational people, so as long as our political system isn't being polluted by the views and agendas of interlopers, we can essentially work out whatever disagreements we have, and adjust our approach, depending upon what proves to be successful, and what doesn't...
Well, maybe not *most* essential, but it helps, lol.
For sure. In a healthy homogeneous society, we would also have civil political debate again
Exactly.
So each country can figure out what suits its needs
...because we'll be a *we* again, rather than struggling against all of the uninvited in a prisoner's dilemma-esque, every-man-for-himself scenario.
@Jacob ...not to mention that it's up in the air, whether or not we'll even have corporations, at least in the current sense, when our laws actually acknowledge the reality that only *people* can be considered to be people.
...and I think that it's pretty telling that, as the Orania Movement in the Northern Cape province of South Africa has continued to develop more and more into a thing, the supposedly dogmatically capitalistic Boers there are very much demonstrating an awareness of the value of cooperatives and the commons.
Lol
Press P to Pat the possums.
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BASED. North America's only marsupial. And consumes thousands of ticks a year without contracting LYME.
Honor the Possum, he fights for your health!
PPPP
I almost forgot to post one today.
Boomers are interesting people...
https://youtu.be/TSFnHHuYXjg
Used to have a huge possum in my backyard couple years back
This is the longest possible roadtrip in the world. Who will join me?
Not bad!\
@Hakujin - CA Wouldn't it be longer if you went South?
@Jacob @Wilhelm One thing that I find interesting, for instance, is the evolving structure of the Russian economy. Now, corruption is obviously much more of a problem over there than it is here, and part of that is cultural/maybe even genetic, but I think it's mostly just due to social inertia from the Soviet period. That said, though, Russia has lower barriers to entry in a lot of sectors than the States, they have a 13% flat tax on income, and a home ownership rate somewhere around 90%, but they also make sure that the commanding heights of the economy, particularly concerning natural resource deposits, are dominated by what Putin refers to as "national champions," such as Gazprom in the case of natural gas, the United Aircraft Corporation, the United Shipbuilding Corporation, and RosTech in the case of high technology, all of which are majority controlled by the state, usually with a 51% stake, and the rest of the investment covered by private capital. That way, there's ample room for free enterprise, but no sector can be seized and dominated by foreign parties.
https://twitter.com/KANTBOT20K/status/953087885842046976?s=19 check the tweet date.
incredible
@Deleted User Just wrong...
Socrates was a ...!
@Jacob Maybe if you went offroad, this is just with roads.
@Hakujin - CA https://wikitravel.org/en/Trans-Siberian_Railway Take the train instead. VERY EUROPEAN
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Very INDO-European ๐
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN But does it go from Portugal to Russia?
@Hakujin - CA I'm sure you can take a different train(s) from Lisbon to Moscow
Trains go slower, and often through more interesting scenery. You can interact with new, interesting people, and maybe get into a murder mystery.
Sleeper cars solve the issue of transport + lodging.
Also solves the question of "what to do with the vehicle" when you get to Vladivostock
@ThisIsChris There's definitely truth to what you're saying, which is why I'm extremely wary of the state retaining control over education, because so long as that remains the case, the state's in a position to dictate *which* societal norms are cultivated and perpetuated...
When you get to Vladivostok you drive the car to japan
Hold your breath
Get big enough tires and you can float-drive.
They're actually getting ready to build a bridge from Hokkaido to Sakhalin, which already has one to Vladivostok ๐
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why am I always the one that gets mic cucked lol
Can you drive cars through the Tsugaru tunnel?
I wanted to hear what you are saying am so sorry
@ophiuchus Not sure...
If so youโll be able to drive from London to Tokyo, which is completely unnecessary and also dope af
We gotta build a bridge from Alaska to Chukotka
So long as the ground has already dried from spring showers, and there's no snow, then you should be able to drive from one side of Russia to the other in one piece.
Looking over Chukotka from a plane window was super cool
I can imagine...
>looking at absolute frozen wasteland, looks like the moon
>comfy with a blanket and some hot tea
Maximum comfy
@Jacob Yeah, but Canada's also responsible for pretty much ZERO medical innovation; they piggyback off of us.
They were the first to synthesize insulin I think
They suck now tho
>tfw 1/8th leaf
Kill me
How difficult is it to iron a flag?
Depends on the material
Itโll melt polyester
@Bjorn - MD Canada has plenty of medical innovation https://www.contactcanada.com/database/companies.php?portal=4&s=0&l=90
It also has a population smaller than California
Even low heat? then wash it on cold and hang it outside
@ophiuchus Not sure when that was, but I'm kind of talking about the post -1930s dynamic, after the reforms championed by Tommy Douglas, which resulted in the present Canadian healthcare system.
actually California has a slightly bigger population
Why is that yelling into the camera?
It was 1923 apparently
Guy*
Why can't people be normal. <:sad:366743316475281408>
@ThisIsChris @Wilhelm I just looked it up. Canada has a higher life expectancy. If people were dropping dead from long wait times, this wouldn't be the case.
The more you yell into a camera the more correct you are
I don't know, dude. If you look at the number of new techniques and medications introduced, which is obviously a flawed metric, but even if you rate it per capita (*gasp*), I can't help but imagine that there'd be a *pretty* significant differential...
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