Im conscious I've joined an American Nationalist server

I like that @isoboto

@Kaladin is there such a thing as good nationalism?

An immensely simplified version of Nationalist ideology @Kaladin

I participate in it tbh

I'll be honest I got a Dm from a person I never met before saying join Zeducation so I joined

One of the most boring ages tbh

Amen

I've been to Finland, 10/10 would recommend

The happiness thing is measured by how happy the people perceive themselves to be

The Finnish perceive themselves as happy more

Then the Danish

https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2020/#read

@Simpnautica cultures are very different and tied to politics and economics, Finland is a lot better politically and economically than most countries making for a happier country in my mind

Dont mistake gender and sex

Theres two sexes, male or female, difference being reproductive and biological functions

@2Lazy2BeOriginal I was talking to @KirkpattieCake

Gender is mostly socially constructed

You were saying the "dude" is saying gender has nothing to do with biology. Whoever this dude is, is right, gender is social, sex biological, simplest way to remember it

Again... gender is social, sex is biological

Its pretty established that gender is social, many people use the word wrong which is why people think that way

The use of the word only really came into use in the past 50 years and the notion of gender, sex and such have only really been studied more in less than that time

I would consider them as the female sex but in my opinion thats irrelevant, gender is far more shaping on lives and thats really what I care about

Im biologically a man but im not defined by my reproductive system, I've been shaped by how I was raised, the culture around me, the education I received

no

Both differ, some men have a lot of testosterone some dont, same for women

Your amount of testosterone doesnt really influence social constructs by any significant amount

Women and men communicate different due to how they have been raised

Men are often raised to avoid expressing emotions whereas girls arent

Thats not at all wrong

Thats how we are culturally raised

...ok...

...why am I wrong?

But it is tho... theres no chemical which tells men to avoid communicating their emotions...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/he-speaks-she-speaks/201501/why-don-t-many-men-show-their-emotions%3famp

Yes change in chemicals does effect your emotions, its the same thing that happens in puberty, it doesnt affect how you communicate them

You were saying men and women communicate differently due to biology

They dont... the culture surrounding them does...

...

What evidence...

Im watching it and the first thing it says is that we have a box for our cars in our brain

If thats what we call evidence nowadays sheesh

Those lists of differences are social issues... not biological

Women dont apologise more because of biology...

No.... its cultural

Its really not wrong, men of other cultures (nationality wise) apologise significantly more than men of American culture

Because it is cultural...

Yeah there are@isoboto

Some value macho women

That claim isnt false tho

There are countries and cultures whos men apologise more than American men

I mean you can simply take Canadians as a basic example

Yeah probs, cultures massively vary

Culture is the single most important factor in the world in general

And it shapes how we men behave, I can honestly say I dont communicate my emotions well because everytime I did as a kid I got called a girl or a gayboy, not because I have chemicals in my brain telling me to hide my emotions and apologise less

Yes

Im not saying whats right or wrong, I'm simply saying that it exists, the difference exists @isoboto

On the basis of culture, I'm saying the differences between how males and females communicate emotions or behave is 99% dependent on culture, i.e men dont cry, Kirk has been trying to explain that men dont apologise because of biology

@isoboto not denying that, also not claiming its because of biology

How is the article random

You posted it as a means of making your point

So you want me to ignore these examples?

Brain work i.e biological or thinking through cultural norms? @isoboto

Also I wasnt talking to you, that quoted message was a reply to Kirk @isoboto

The same can be said for women

In a 21st century advanced society what is the biological need?

Again that was a reaponse to someone else

Largely yes

Lets say you live in an underdeveloped nation with poor quality of life, you need to be strong to survive

You have to plow your field, fight off whomever etc

In an advanced nation with high quality of life I can buy my food from a supermarket, I'm not at all likely to be attacked

Yes, as theres no biological need to be macho

Same applies to women, women in poorer places have a need to produce children to help on the farm or in other places

In an advanced nation bearing children isnt a necessity to survive, its what you want to do

@isoboto you'd be surprised

How so?

And also what are traditional roles... tradition depends on the culture which the society operates under

Or just pick someone who makes them happy

I would 110% argue that women in Sweden are less likely to revert to traditional roles than lets say Iran

I think i phrased that wrong but meh

Thats the problem

You said in nations where women have achieved equality

I compared it with a place where they havent

Free places have equality

How?

Its a comparison

Freedom is a spectrum @isoboto

Not to the extent of unequal places tho

I'd say you can definitely have a maximum and minimum freedom

I was referring to death and death @2Lazy2BeOriginal

Why cant you have maximum freedom @isoboto

Who says maximun freedom requires a government

I dont think the ability of thought influences your freedom negatively, the way you think doesnt make you less free

Me having a random thought doesnt mean im losing freedom points

Thats really just a nonsense point

"You cant be free because you still think"

And apparently you cant escape a mental prison?

You cant escape your worries?

But if you had an abundance of those things and your stomach was full you wouldnt escape it?