Would REALLY appreciate it if you can quote people so we know who you are replying to

In an advanced nation with high quality of life I can buy my food from a supermarket, I'm not at all likely to be attacked

Yeah. Which explain why men in an advanced nation may be less incline for machoness than poorer places

But that is, if you are talking about guys in cities. In farms or rural areas may be a different story

Yes, as theres no biological need to be macho

I doubt women would favor an antifa person over a macho person

Same applies to women, women in poorer places have a need to produce children to help on the farm or in other places

In an advanced nation bearing children isnt a necessity to survive, its what you want to do

Sure. Until natural selection kick in. I would argue ladies are less incline to pick a less macho person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_dX9l23fRg&ab_channel=MR.OBVIOUS

Wow I feel like that middle child who got ignored lol

@isoboto you'd be surprised

Funny, because in many place where they have seemingly reach equality between men and women, women tends to revert back to traditional roles

How so?

Sure gold digger and wealth is a factor. But generally girls will pick macho men

And also what are traditional roles... tradition depends on the culture which the society operates under

Oh i know. Your theory is correct in that most city males are slowly losing their machoness. So unless women in cities venture further, they would have to pick the available ones in their location

Or just pick someone who makes them happy

I am talking about Sweden-kind of countries here. Countries where equity/equality seems like the dream. Women tend to revert to family roles

Oh macho men is preferred by women in most cases.

I would 110% argue that women in Sweden are less likely to revert to traditional roles than lets say Iran

I think i phrased that wrong but meh

Sure. Would argue different. Picking someone that makes them happy isnt necessarily a good strategy for staying alive. The guy would most likely have a job or also specialize in something that the lady are attracted to

What would be a traditional role in Sweden?

people would choose someone wealthy over muscles. but that doesn’t mean that having muscles isn’t gonna affect how you get girls

Iran is pressuring women to be in those roles. Sweden is a free place. So i think it's not a fair comparison

I was gonna say that same thing

Thats the problem

You said in nations where women have achieved equality

I compared it with a place where they havent

Free places have equality

Which is a somewhat unfair

How?

Its a comparison

Is that why we are still talking about the glass ceiling?

Freedom is a spectrum @isoboto

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Sure. My point was in more advanced countries where they try really hard to make people "equal" and are perceived as already reached that place, women tend to, surprisingly, revert back to traditional roles

Not to the extent of unequal places tho

No. Freedom is an illusion. If it's a spectrum, you are implying you have maximum and minimum freedom, which is untrue and objective

I'd say you can definitely have a maximum and minimum freedom