Iran is pressuring women to be in those roles. Sweden is a free place. So i think it's not a fair comparison

I was gonna say that same thing

Thats the problem

You said in nations where women have achieved equality

I compared it with a place where they havent

Free places have equality

Which is a somewhat unfair

How?

Its a comparison

Is that why we are still talking about the glass ceiling?

Freedom is a spectrum @isoboto

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Sure. My point was in more advanced countries where they try really hard to make people "equal" and are perceived as already reached that place, women tend to, surprisingly, revert back to traditional roles

Not to the extent of unequal places tho

No. Freedom is an illusion. If it's a spectrum, you are implying you have maximum and minimum freedom, which is untrue and objective

I'd say you can definitely have a maximum and minimum freedom

Sure. But, again, as i was saying. Cultures shift doesnt necessarily mean we rid ourselves of our biological need or incline completely

There’s total freedom which is never possible. Than there’s slavery. Are you saying that’s max and min freedom?

I was referring to death and death @2Lazy2BeOriginal

Nope. You never can have maximum freedom. It is in your brain

Why cant you have maximum freedom @isoboto

Death, again, can be seen as a temporal stop in the endless cycle of life, if you are looking at it from the culture lens

Wait death?

Because it is almost impossible. Even assuming you are under an utopia where the government is nice and all that, you are still controlled and driven by how your brain works.

Who says maximun freedom requires a government

Even without the government lmao

If you are in the wild by yourself, your brain and body just doesnt kick off and relax

Still follow the same pattern of needs

if your in the wild your brain is hardwired to search for food

Assuming I understand isoboto. You would be restricted by nature

I dont think the ability of thought influences your freedom negatively, the way you think doesnt make you less free

Me having a random thought doesnt mean im losing freedom points

Thats really just a nonsense point

Oh yeah. Nature is the cruelest of all lol

"You cant be free because you still think"

Your thinking can still restrict you. It's called mental prison

Even though you can do whatever. You still have to worry about nature being a brat and it restricts how you perceive freedom

This is assuming freedom is having no worries

And apparently you cant escape a mental prison?

Wdym?

You cant escape your worries?