Message from @HMAB

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2020-12-27 16:11:04 UTC  

Who says maximun freedom requires a government

2020-12-27 16:11:27 UTC  

Even without the government lmao

2020-12-27 16:11:51 UTC  

If you are in the wild by yourself, your brain and body just doesnt kick off and relax

2020-12-27 16:12:05 UTC  

Still follow the same pattern of needs

2020-12-27 16:12:28 UTC  

if your in the wild your brain is hardwired to search for food

2020-12-27 16:12:56 UTC  

Assuming I understand isoboto. You would be restricted by nature

2020-12-27 16:13:09 UTC  

I dont think the ability of thought influences your freedom negatively, the way you think doesnt make you less free

2020-12-27 16:13:43 UTC  

Me having a random thought doesnt mean im losing freedom points

2020-12-27 16:14:08 UTC  

Thats really just a nonsense point

2020-12-27 16:14:15 UTC  

Oh yeah. Nature is the cruelest of all lol

2020-12-27 16:14:19 UTC  

"You cant be free because you still think"

2020-12-27 16:14:44 UTC  

Your thinking can still restrict you. It's called mental prison

2020-12-27 16:14:56 UTC  

Even though you can do whatever. You still have to worry about nature being a brat and it restricts how you perceive freedom

2020-12-27 16:15:14 UTC  

This is assuming freedom is having no worries

2020-12-27 16:15:56 UTC  

And apparently you cant escape a mental prison?

2020-12-27 16:16:30 UTC  

Wdym?

2020-12-27 16:17:54 UTC  

You cant escape your worries?

2020-12-27 16:18:31 UTC  

oh you can have momentarily escape your worries but when you get out of the relaxed state. You will still have it

2020-12-27 16:18:41 UTC  

No, you can't. Don't know where you live but living in the wild without the government doesn't automatically make your stomach full

2020-12-27 16:19:23 UTC  

^

2020-12-27 16:24:59 UTC  

But if you had an abundance of those things and your stomach was full you wouldnt escape it?

2020-12-27 16:26:17 UTC  

You would also have boredom to overcome and there’s also predators to worry about. Weather too

2020-12-27 16:29:47 UTC  

Who is providing food for you? Moreover, an unsimulated brain will turn you into mush and useless. If maximum freedom means there ia nothing to strive or achieve, that sounds terrible. For a day or two, there may be no worries of hunger, but it will return. Human natures would soon dictates that the person start finding flaws in the perfect system and fixing up things

2020-12-27 16:31:11 UTC  

I would say you copied me but since you put it so well, that I won’t disputed it

2020-12-27 16:38:17 UTC  

These are entirely hypothetical so just hypothetically if someone had all their needs and more could they escape it?

2020-12-27 16:40:54 UTC  

Like pure happiness and no stress?

2020-12-27 16:41:21 UTC  

Like swiss family robinson

2020-12-27 16:43:06 UTC  

Who’s that?

2020-12-27 16:44:28 UTC  

Depends on the person. I would bet a large amount yes (assuming it's god's works and not the great benevolent government tampering with a new control method).

That being said, each has their own needs, unless this hypothetical situation meets all needs perfectly, sooner or later there will be resistance. Some that are wired to question everything will soon find this weird utopia strange.

Plus, i would argue in this case it's not really freedom at all. You are just chained to primal needs. Parts of what makes you feel rewarded is hardship, so easy satisfaction will lost its lust after a while

2020-12-27 16:51:25 UTC  

Same person who said trump is a piece of shit for something he did in the past

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762720224268910632/792796794111262740/image0.png

2020-12-27 16:52:07 UTC  

did trump change?

2020-12-27 16:52:20 UTC  

He definitely did but but

2020-12-27 16:52:51 UTC  

i mean, the recent quotes don't reflect that??? "poor kids are just as smart and bright as white kids"

2020-12-27 16:53:36 UTC  

I know what he meant but people make blunders like that

2020-12-27 16:55:05 UTC  

Also people complain about systemic racism always think blacks are poor

2020-12-27 16:55:23 UTC  

Is it just me or is it something I noticed when they mention that

2020-12-27 16:56:10 UTC  

It's like they don't know any black people

2020-12-27 16:56:14 UTC  

This dude is saying if biden apologizes he’s fine but if trump apologizes it doesn’t matter because he doesn’t mean it

2020-12-27 16:56:37 UTC  

Biden never apologizes

2020-12-27 16:56:44 UTC  

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2020-12-27 16:57:00 UTC  

hmmm. makes sense. orange man bad <:KEK:726877368601411624>