Funny, because in many place where they have seemingly reach equality between men and women, women tends to revert back to traditional roles

How so?

Sure gold digger and wealth is a factor. But generally girls will pick macho men

And also what are traditional roles... tradition depends on the culture which the society operates under

Oh i know. Your theory is correct in that most city males are slowly losing their machoness. So unless women in cities venture further, they would have to pick the available ones in their location

Or just pick someone who makes them happy

I am talking about Sweden-kind of countries here. Countries where equity/equality seems like the dream. Women tend to revert to family roles

Oh macho men is preferred by women in most cases.

I would 110% argue that women in Sweden are less likely to revert to traditional roles than lets say Iran

I think i phrased that wrong but meh

Sure. Would argue different. Picking someone that makes them happy isnt necessarily a good strategy for staying alive. The guy would most likely have a job or also specialize in something that the lady are attracted to

What would be a traditional role in Sweden?

people would choose someone wealthy over muscles. but that doesn’t mean that having muscles isn’t gonna affect how you get girls

Iran is pressuring women to be in those roles. Sweden is a free place. So i think it's not a fair comparison

I was gonna say that same thing

Thats the problem

You said in nations where women have achieved equality

I compared it with a place where they havent

Free places have equality

Which is a somewhat unfair

How?

Its a comparison

Is that why we are still talking about the glass ceiling?

Freedom is a spectrum @isoboto

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Sure. My point was in more advanced countries where they try really hard to make people "equal" and are perceived as already reached that place, women tend to, surprisingly, revert back to traditional roles

Not to the extent of unequal places tho

No. Freedom is an illusion. If it's a spectrum, you are implying you have maximum and minimum freedom, which is untrue and objective

I'd say you can definitely have a maximum and minimum freedom

Sure. But, again, as i was saying. Cultures shift doesnt necessarily mean we rid ourselves of our biological need or incline completely

There’s total freedom which is never possible. Than there’s slavery. Are you saying that’s max and min freedom?

I was referring to death and death @2Lazy2BeOriginal

Nope. You never can have maximum freedom. It is in your brain

Why cant you have maximum freedom @isoboto

Death, again, can be seen as a temporal stop in the endless cycle of life, if you are looking at it from the culture lens

Wait death?

Because it is almost impossible. Even assuming you are under an utopia where the government is nice and all that, you are still controlled and driven by how your brain works.

Who says maximun freedom requires a government

Even without the government lmao

If you are in the wild by yourself, your brain and body just doesnt kick off and relax

Still follow the same pattern of needs