@Deleted User the fuck's with that prompt on the last link? "I agree" "I don't agree"

got it

not trying to crap on the idea, but is that even a good thing?

specifically, to raise the average IQ of an entire race

that's precisely why I ask

if it's clear that we "don't know", then wouldn't the best thing to do is to figure out how we could possibly make that correlation?

personally I think human intelligence is like physical ability. everyone has varying capability, different races have different capabilities on average, some have it in good quality some don't, etc.

but who knows for sure until you start looking into it

the best thing to say without a clear method is "I don't know"

I think it's difficult to even tell what environmental factors are important towards that. I remember reading that whether or not a baby is breastfed by their biological mother can have an effect on their IQ, and that this difference is noticeable even if any certain child received breast milk from someone other than their mother

also how do you separate IQ from simply not knowing something, being bored, etc.

for example, if I remember right, one of the important qualities of an IQ test is how fast you complete it

there are people who test, who are good at taking tests or who just have that knowledge, like for example if you don't know something just skip it immediately go to the next thing, don't spend 5 years on it

myself for example, I'll finish it until I have an answer and I might even check over it if I was unsure

but doing that would make for a lower score, ie. it's more intelligent to just skip it, come back later, then give your best guess rather than trying to figure it out then and there

if you're just there taking a test though, are you really thinking about how to absolutely crush this test into the dirt?

that's just that one aspect. there's other elements, too (which I think have their own ways of being handled). ex. those people who freeze when it comes to taking tests

also I wonder things like the level of their general intelligence vs being motivated, or working with things they're intimately familiar with

well, I didn't mean that in terms of how it affects general IQ, but rather.. if you accounted for those elements as if they were a separate IQ, what would the differences between those two scores be

how about pushing for "the right to kill"

I disagree. I think if citizens privatized that process, that process would involve a business model that puts them right back into homelessness. at least that's what it seems to me at a glance. I think what's best is to figure out why they're homeless

out of curiosity, Alcoholics Anonymous is a non-profit organization, right?

I've got no sources to this, most of what I've heard is by word of mouth, but the large majority of it has been from former addicts

every single one of them states that AA is pretty much designed to make sure they go right back in there

I'm actually not certain

supposedly: we care for guns more than people's lives, as Americans we try to draw attention to the positives of our culture while completely ignoring the fact that the negatives are extremely present, the video is filled with black people and police cause they're caught up in all of this shit in various ways, Gambino (can I just call him Donald Glover, I don't know "Gambino") dances and makes exaggerated facial expressions as a sort of reference to when there were blackface actors but that dancing can also be taken to mean that... I don't want to go to 2000 characters (and I had no idea how much I'd typed) hold on

that dancing can also be taken to mean many other things, ex. he fires the pistol in such a silly pose, indicating that he's used the gun so much he's not even focused on proper handling of it, he's trying to show how cool he looks firing it

problems exist until people eliminate them

pissing on a fire doesn't put it out, firemen put it out

just one of the things I heard but I assume it's that shit like "MURCA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH!!!" but we still have school shootings or whatever cause we just won't go ahead and do gun control

that kinda point I disagree with, but I think that's the mindset of it

to be the greatest for e xample doesn't mean perfect, I meant they're saying "greatest? you consider it great when we've still got problems A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, etc. yet we have all the power in the world to do something about it?"

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different problems got different shit to it

ex. they say black on black crime kills the most black people, I don't think that's just Tyrone and Dr. Dre beefing

I think it's dudes trying to make money selling drugs

in order to even fix that we'd have to be willing and able to divert resources to that

I watch a lot of TV and shit and I correlate what goes on in TV to wondering about what happens in reality. having never looked into it, I dunno how much is shit and how much isn't

but for example, I've finised watch ing The Wire, and the drug game there exists pretty much because... "what are you gonna do about it?"

the police departments, the government, everyone's hurting for money

except the damn criminals

I should've mentioned I do this not just with TV but with games

playing Mount&Blade Warband, I drew a sort of correlation between those criminal elements, deserters/looters/etc. and people doing drug startups irl

eventually, if they go unnoticed for long enough, they reach a size or gain abilities you can't do much about

games are love

games are life

besides, comparing them like that brings out interesting things

ex. that specific comparison made me realize, what's to ever stop someone else from starting up the drug game?

say you have a plan to wipe the streets clean of every single drug dealer, even on down to the lowest ranking member

and it works

I didn't know any of that, especially about wild hogs. interestin

but yes, I've noticed that as it pertains to gun control, I don't think I've ever seen a guy who was actually intimately familiar with guns aiding with the control side of the argument

I don't think that means anything specifically, but I find that interesting because you'd think there would be one and that he'd be very well-known

what I wonder is why people are so fixated on gun killing specifically

it gives some odd feeling as if killings of other kinds are perfectly fine

I ask people that every now and then. the answer I tend to get is "guns are designed to fire hot metal slugs..."

as much as I'd be interested in hearing about such a tragedy, unless the killer was Solid Snake or Jack the Ripper, I don't think we're hearing much about a stabbing

lol

@Adreyu people's arguments with that is that the killer would have to try a lot harder to kill that many people with knife or poison vs a gun you can just buy or steal

tbh I just point people to cars

cars kill a ton of people but no one's gonna willingly part with that power if they have it

I wonder what life in New Zealand is like though

not too long ago I saw a video where it's stated they can legally own machine guns, but there's no mass murder there

funny thing is people who intend to do bad shit don't give a fuck

I saw a vid of a guy robbing a store with a makeshift spear

even if we do that, I wonder how it is people expect things to improve

no I mean even if we just all unanimously decided, ok, fuck it, guns are the problem, get rid of them

do they think tomorrow morning is better..?

like ok there's no more school shootings, now you just made people work harder on making a good enough bomb or focus on killing the mother fuckers they actually do want dead

"I kill u and den I die" is still a valid game without a gun

wut cobra kai

wtf?

regarding this meme, what types of government aid are there? help me to understand why this meme is uneducated https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/453784934939885579/29573041_1366232620158606_1135714833526058545_n.png

people speak often about the genders debate, but what of the actual nuances?

I'm not a SJW or anything so I don't subscribe to the belief "there are more than 2 genders" or whatever but I do think there's science that shows that it's a bit more complex than chromosomes for some people, for instance

@RyeNorth I'd say otherwise, that we need to get into the habit of proving shit. because if we don't, then those delusions settle inside and become belief, and belief is hard as fuck to remove even with direct contradictory evidence

I agree

discussions like that hinge upon the person seeing how they're wrong or right

which is difficult to do that with the standard approach people take to arguing: I'm right, you're wrong, here's why

when you argue like that, rather than being about finding any sort of truth, it becomes a childish fight

and topics as wide as the one you just brought up, you'd have to find an element within what they're saying in order for them to start to realize how it doesn't make sense, which is difficult without being able to latch on to something that they say specifically to show that it doesn't

those arguments are kinda difficult to get into because you can't focus on that element of what's definitely true, it puts us all in this weird arguing stance no matter what

ex. I dunno the sex of anyone here, but let's say you're male. I argue that you're female. you wouldn't dismiss that in quite the same way as you'd dismiss a flat earther. but if I say something like that, you have something you can go to immediately to show that that's wrong. you show me a picture of your dick (don't get any ideas), I lose that argument immediately

where's the flat earth dick pic? you show them that, then they'll get it

@RyeNorth my example was not one to represent "disproving flat earthers" but to be used as an example of something you know immediately is not correct and why it's not correct and you wouldn't spend any energy debating it seriously because of how quickly you can crush it. the flat earthers one is different specifically because of how deeply you'd have to dig into it before you start seeing things that are wrong that you can express to them clearly

there is something that's been in the back of my mind that no one has ever said and I don't think anyone ever will

isn't it pretty difficult to get into the United States as a legal immigrant? why do we have this process if they can just live here illegally and get the exact same benefits with less difficulty?

I understand that if they move here illegally and then are deported, that's a shit deal. but what about *that* shit deal?

fucking hell this world

it's just that when I say that I'm not even trying to be a dick

some of the most fun people I ever met in my life were Mexican, dunno if illegal or not, dunno if their parents were or not, don't care. may not even have the ethnicity right

but it makes no sense, the way the two are set up

D&D gate?

fuck this entire SJW vs misogynist shit god fcking dammit I cannot make heads or tails of this shit EVER

it is always perfectly grey

I'm just gonna say this and then let it go

there's men who fucking suck at interacting with women. they exist. there's women who suck at interacting with men. but damn, is EVERTYTHING an issue?

I remember back when I played Overwatch, that was an issue I understood. some of those SJW people tried to show that there was massive sexism in the game. and to anyone who plays, it's like uh... yeah... they're all assholes all targeting people all the time for anything because there is no force keeping them from being an asshole, this isn't a gender issue

but that, I can understand. this DND thing, I cannot..

ok help me understadnd this: how is it even an issue?